Questioning myself

[TyBiggs85]

I have a quick question that I would like to get off of my chest. I research all aspects of the UFO and metaphysical phenomenon, along with esoteric and mystical research. I like to watch dvds or youtube videos to look for disinformation. I also read lots of books from different authors with different perspectives on the UFO phenomenon. I even listen to Coast 2 Coast because I like the topics and the stories they discuss on that radio station, even though it's probably government/ illuminati controlled. The question I have: why is Laura's research not being discussed or considered, even at all, on a lot of these shows and books, especially among the UFO community?
It seems to me that her research is some of the most groundbreaking and well researched. But it's almost like, the person that has discovered the most truth is discussed the least out of so many scientist, UFO researchers, and the metaphysical community. These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality, or they are governement mind-programmed pawns, carrying the illuminati and the Overlords bidding. Any members who can help me out here, please do!

 

[Voyageur]

Fwiw, not being in the ufo community, however, thinking about your question; others more in the know can weigh in here, think that the aspect of hyperdimensional beings is not tangible/observable and does not fit with many; although Keel, Jessup and others seem to have these clues. Another aspect it seems, when all the things that are strange are separated (likely for a reason) instead of viewed as stemming from the same sources, this disconnect, the present mainstream course, seems to have vectored thinking. Keel was on this as is the general premise of Laura in her works, osit, and is generally discussed and reasoned in many threads here. For those you mentioned, perhaps to carry people along in the main, contelpro etcetera, they need a 3d singularity of thinking, beings from out there as opposed to a whole conceptual multidimensional order that is difficult to grasp, yet in a way answer many questions and examples historically.

 

[Carl]

I have a quick question that I would like to get off of my chest. I research all aspects of the UFO and metaphysical phenomenon, along with esoteric and mystical research. I like to watch dvds or youtube videos to look for disinformation. I also read lots of books from different authors with different perspectives on the UFO phenomenon. I even listen to Coast 2 Coast because I like the topics and the stories they discuss on that radio station, even though it's probably government/ illuminati controlled. The question I have: why is Laura's research not being discussed or considered, even at all, on a lot of these shows and books, especially among the UFO community?
It seems to me that her research is some of the most groundbreaking and well researched. But it's almost like, the person that has discovered the most truth is discussed the least out of so many scientist, UFO researchers, and the metaphysical community. These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality, or they are governement mind-programmed pawns, carrying the illuminati and the Overlords bidding. Any members who can help me out here, please do!

Could it be any other way in this world? It is important for the matrix that most people don't seriously start considering the idea of intelligent, entropic hyperdimensional forces, so the controllers do what they can to make sure only a minimum amount of people can find the truth. Also just the fear of such a powerful, unbeatable (from a limited 3d perspective) enemy is probably too much for most people to ever accept, even serious researchers.

Consider the quote from ISOTM where Gurdjieff talks about knowledge. I can't find the full section so I quote from Cassiopedia:

Gurdjieff tells us that esoteric knowledge is like a material substance. There is only a certain amount of this substance allotted to the world at each time. If this stuff of knowledge is spread too thin, it does nobody any good. In great condensations, when a large amount is shared between relatively few, knowledge can produce great change and benefit.

While this may sound unfair, this is not so: The majority of people have no interest in claiming even their due amount of knowledge, hence much stuff of knowledge goes unclaimed. This is specially so in times of turmoil. Thus an aspect of esoteric work is gathering this knowledge.

When in possession of such knowledge, groups become, as it were, more intelligent, they can do at a level that surpasses their individual or collective 'regular' intelligence. The concept may relate to the 4th Way notion of higher 'hydrogens' and to the ideas of 'intelligent energy' as explained by Ra. At any rate, substances (hydrogens) are seen to be endowed with a certain 'intelligence' or 'vivifyingness' proper to each level of hydrogen.

This seems to be the way of the world still today.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

One important aspect might be that one has to overcome enough of the cultural (and biological) conditioning that has shaped us through our lives, to be able to see and understand the unpleasant truths of Lauras research at deeper level and the bigger picture it gives. Despite of education, intelligence or social status, we can be totally unaware of these issues, because they require that you appreciate the objective reality more than your own premises of how things should look, osit.

 

[lake_george]

These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality, or they are governement mind-programmed pawns, carrying the illuminati and the Overlords bidding. Any members who can help me out here, please do!

Not to be >entirely< cynical, but I think the 'economic factor' plays a part in all this. Perhaps with some other researchers, the ability to make a living off of what they do is more important than the Truth.

Something I think is unique about Laura is that she began her search with skepticism and rigorous questioning, has been testing all along, and has been OPEN and generous about her process and her search (even publishing on-line!) so that the attentive reader can understand where she is coming from. She has built on a solid foundation.

Someone who has begun by believing they have channeled a 'benevolent' source would lose their whole 'gig' if someone points out the fallacies, and that they have been used. So if everybody just 'plays nice' and doesn't poke holes in other people's 'stories', then it is all good thrilling entertainment and distraction and everybody makes a buck -- but no one grows, no one changes from it.

Laura's research has gone hand-in-hand with her inner growth, and she has taken responsibility for creating and maintaining a safe space (here) for others to share information, research and resources, and grow as well.

 

[Foxx]

I have a quick question that I would like to get off of my chest. I research all aspects of the UFO and metaphysical phenomenon, along with esoteric and mystical research. I like to watch dvds or youtube videos to look for disinformation. I also read lots of books from different authors with different perspectives on the UFO phenomenon. I even listen to Coast 2 Coast because I like the topics and the stories they discuss on that radio station, even though it's probably government/ illuminati controlled. The question I have: why is Laura's research not being discussed or considered, even at all, on a lot of these shows and books, especially among the UFO community?
It seems to me that her research is some of the most groundbreaking and well researched. But it's almost like, the person that has discovered the most truth is discussed the least out of so many scientist, UFO researchers, and the metaphysical community. These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality, or they are governement mind-programmed pawns, carrying the illuminati and the Overlords bidding. Any members who can help me out here, please do!

I think it shows how much disinfo is out there and/or how many people aren't genuinely seeking the truth.

 

[Nienna]

I have a quick question that I would like to get off of my chest. I research all aspects of the UFO and metaphysical phenomenon, along with esoteric and mystical research. I like to watch dvds or youtube videos to look for disinformation. I also read lots of books from different authors with different perspectives on the UFO phenomenon. I even listen to Coast 2 Coast because I like the topics and the stories they discuss on that radio station, even though it's probably government/ illuminati controlled. The question I have: why is Laura's research not being discussed or considered, even at all, on a lot of these shows and books, especially among the UFO community?
It seems to me that her research is some of the most groundbreaking and well researched. But it's almost like, the person that has discovered the most truth is discussed the least out of so many scientist, UFO researchers, and the metaphysical community. These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality, or they are governement mind-programmed pawns, carrying the illuminati and the Overlords bidding. Any members who can help me out here, please do!

Laura actually discusses this in her 9/11: The Ultimate Truth podcast, which has been transcribed here.

I don't want to give away all the ideas that I have revealed in the book. Obviously. Because I want people to read the book, because it's important to read the book and to read the book step-by-step. There is another aspect to the problems that we face and that is, what is become known in recent times as exopolitics. Isn't that a nice word. Exopolitics. Exopolitics refers to hyperdimensional manipulation of political figures for the purposes of hyperdimensional beings, one would suspect. Which of course, the powers that be in this world insist do not exist and if anybody says otherwise they find that they have run afoul of the powers that be.

For example, just recently, oh, two weeks ago, I received an email from Coast to Coast inviting me to appear on the show. And I was a little bit hesitant because of course, I am aware that many serious researchers consider Coast to Coast one of the major sources of disinformation in America today. And so, I was hesitant to appear on their show. And then of course, the next thing I thought about, well, maybe they're not so bad because they are inviting us to be on their show and we know that we're honest and sincere and haven't been co-opted so, you know, obviously since we know that, and they're inviting us to be on their show, you know, that gives us a chance to talk to many people or get our message across to many people, so maybe Coast to Coast isn't so bad. And so, I received a call from a young lady at Coast to Coast and she put through basically about a, oh what, a twenty, thirty minute trial interview on the telephone to determine if what I had to say was interesting enough for Coast to Coast. Well, I didn't break anything to her gently and I'm sure she was gasping for breath by the time I finished answering her questions. And she says, oh my this is, this is a lot to think about, you know, could I have a copy of your book. So I said sure, and I took the address, and I had a copy of the book sent to her. The book Secret History, not 9/11. And, oh, about four or five days later I received another email saying yes we'd like to have you on the show, and actually I was supposed to be on the Coast to Coast show this coming weekend. And so everything was set up, the time was established and as far as we were consider it was a go, and like I said I was beginning to think maybe Coast to Coast wasn't so bad. And then a couple of days went by and suddenly I received an email saying, you know, sorry something came up. I'll be back in touch with you, you know. Basically cancelling the whole thing with no explanation.

So, the only thing I can conjecture is, is that once they put me on schedule and it had become known to whoever oversees this sort of thing, that the word came down - no, you may not have that woman on Coast to Coast. Or B, they actually began to read the book and discovered exactly what it was talking about and realised that, you know, they didn't want to help promote a book that actually exposed the reality that we live in for what it is. So that was that for Coast to Coast. At this point we do not expect to be invited again, or at all.

 

[TyBiggs85]

Thanks everyone for the inciteful replies. I guess I probably already knew the answer to my question, but it helps to know there are people out there who seek the truth. Not just people, and there are so many, especially in the states, that seek physical aggrandizement while only finding and disseminating half-truths. That's the wonderful thing about this forum. We are all on a mutual soul-quest to help reverse humanity's plight.

 

[lake_george]

Thanks everyone for the inciteful replies. I guess I probably already knew the answer to my question, but it helps to know there are people out there who seek the truth. Not just people, and there are so many, especially in the states, that seek physical aggrandizement while only finding and disseminating half-truths. That's the wonderful thing about this forum. We are all on a mutual soul-quest to help reverse humanity's plight.

LIKE.

(We need a like button here.)

 

[anart]

Thanks everyone for the inciteful replies. I guess I probably already knew the answer to my question, but it helps to know there are people out there who seek the truth. Not just people, and there are so many, especially in the states, that seek physical aggrandizement while only finding and disseminating half-truths. That's the wonderful thing about this forum. We are all on a mutual soul-quest to help reverse humanity's plight.

LIKE.

(We need a like button here.)

Hi lake_george, I understand your sentiment, but it's really helpful to keep the noise to a minimum on this forum. With several hundred posts to read and monitor in every 24 hour period, it makes things rather unmanageable if people begin posting just to say "I agree" or "like".

 

[The rabbit]

My quick answer is , if every one acknowledged Laura´s research as the closest your going to get to understanding anything at all , then they would not be able to sell their ego centric books any more . They would possibly have to consider working as a team with others with one true aim , for others as well as for themselves , the aim of course being the truth.

The truth of course starts to dismantle the illusion that "They" are special.

blah , blah , blah , etc , etc.

 

[TyBiggs85]

Yes a "like" button would be nice. Sorry I just really appreciate the interaction with others that are searching for the same knowledge that I am searching for. Because, like many on this forum, I am constantly surrounded by people that are so naive and ignorant, and these people are my friends and family. But I will take that into account for future post.

 

[Carl]

Yes a "like" button would be nice. Sorry I just really appreciate the interaction with others that are searching for the same knowledge that I am searching for. Because, like many on this forum, I am constantly surrounded by people that are so naive and ignorant, and these people are my friends and family. But I will take that into account for future post.

If you agree with something, instead of a 'like' button, you could try and write a post explaining why you agree, or expanding on some of the points made in said post. This is what networking is about, discussion and learning together. A like button would not serve any purpose in a place like this, it only works in places where people need validation from others to prove the worthiness of their posts and fuel their self importance, IMO.

The more you write and discuss here (instead of just 'like'), the more you begin to feel at home in this forum, and really know that there are people just like you out there who you can interact with honestly about things that matter. This gives you hope and optimism when dealing with the more ignorant and psychologically unhealthy people in your day to day life. That has been my experience anyway.

 

[Knobbingham]

The example of knowledge as being a finite amount will work as an explanation for this. Simply put, knowledge of a certain degree can only be held by a finite amount of people at any one given time.

These people say they are searching for the truth, but it really seems they just want to confirm their own perceptions of reality...

There is much truth in this. The majority believe that they've earned the truth, so naturally they gravitate towards the ones that claim to possess it; those who wish to gain knowledge within any field eventually find the pieces of (dis)information meant for them, and adopt these as the foundation on which all following events will be perceived. It seems that only a few possess the capability to critically revise what they thought to be true and good and then act accordingly. Much easier is it to form a group of individuals with opinions as corrupted as the teachings you've worked so hard to study and make an enemy out of all who oppose your view.

There is a clear distinction between the attempt to gain knowledge, and humoring fairy-tales for ones own egotistical demand for truth and entertainment.