Radical feminist witches and their hypothesis of STS energy dynamics

[crystalicdream]

I think that this forum post here serves mostly for exposition. I have toyed with the idea of posting this for a while now, especially seeing that there is no such post about it here yet, but was a bit hesitant about it, because what can be learned from this? But it fascinated me a great deal, as these people have a point and might have encountered something that they simply mislabeled.

So, right before I found this forum on my search, I came across one section of the internet that discussed the problem of societal Stockholm syndrome, albeit from a somewhat other point of view. The section of the internet I am talking about are the various radical feminist blogs, which are run by women who proclaim to be witches and to despise men because of all the transgressions they committed against women in the last few thousand years.
Well, what would the reason be for me writing about this here? It's because some of the points they were making also made me think about some humans being portals for some higher-density beings coming through. But, there were so many parallels between what they said and what I came to read in the Wave series that it baffled me, even if they do make some mistakes in their hypothesis.
Basically, from my time spent reading in that circle, the radical feminist witches have the following hypothesis:

1. Men inherently function as portals for demons and other malevolent beings
2. Women are creator beings, filled with enough energy to create, to see into other worlds and dimensions, while -
3. Men inherently function as "black holes" in that they do not have the energy to sustain themselves and need to rob females of their energies by means of sexual intercourse. If going without any female energy for a longer amount of time, men become so desperate for the energy input that they might resort to rape and other kinds of assault to get it.
4. Women have been oppressed as a class for at least the last 6000 years, being taught from birth how to placate their male rulers. Basically, they suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome, having learned to placate men to not be killed themselves.


What baffled me about these points is that what they are basically describing in their own words are 4th density STS forces and the effects thereof, even if some of them make the grave mistake to describe ALL MALES without exception to automatically belong to a class of energy draining STS beings. Which I massively have to disagree with, since I am pretty sure that the men in our group are doing their best to be STO candidates. But what if what these persons just witnessed the matrix in action and it just happened to be that primarily the men in their lives were activated and used by the Matrix to harm them? Even more so to convince them that all men are inherently bad and need to be dealt with?

Here is one example from their writings, in which one of the witches realizes that stealing energies is not so inherent to all men:

From https://wwomenwwarriors.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/otherwise/

It was a couple of months ago right after I shut off my blog that I went out into nature for my regular full moon ritual. I have a secret spot. For a particular ritual, I had a surreal experience of calling out to the Goddess and a great wind whirling around me for awhile after that. When it stopped, I could see. I was directly connected to source and I asked about a million questions without words in the blink of the eye and so many responses came. One of the most impacting was when I sought information about patriarchy, male domination, the state of the planet, and all the destruction on the planet. I said that I hate men. I hate them. And demanded (pleaded, imparted, kindly asked) to know if I would ever be expected to love them, if they could ever be saved, if they will ever stop, or if they all must die. I saw flashes of old wars in my eyes: vikings, mesopotamia, old europe, the americas. I saw dark shadows and bright light as if on a colliding highway rushing furiously past in flickers. The darkness was a pattern, and it was behind many of the males. Not all. And I will tell you that it surprised me, since we do class analysis generally, but the thing wasn’t like that. There was a theme of negatively and positively charged energy patterns, like ions, forming a cloud that was controlling many of the males. I do not think the energy is synonymous with maleness, but that there was a spectrum of males either merely shadowed by it and then males who strongly embraced this second body of energy as their own. What I wanted to know is how to combat patriarchy on this plane. That is what witches should be doing, if we can do anything at all, we must do this.

The next quote is what fascinated me in the past, as I have not considered that humans could be used as portals like that:

I also wanted to mention that on other occasions, I have seen people’s energy and their energetic body. I practice reiki and I can see the spots on the physical body that store compromised energy. I can see energy attachments to people, hovering entities latched onto them. I once saw a dark, demonic figure hovering above my ex during intercourse. When I told him about it in the act, he said, nonchalantly, “I know.” He didn’t even jokingly grin. It was deadpan.

After having read more about STS beings and what darkness really means, what the next blog entry shown is describing is essentially just that: The constant need for energy that STS beings need to fuel themselves, as described in this blog post through the example of Elliot Roger.

From https://radicalkitten.wordpress.com/2014/08/08/how-blatant-does-it-have-to-be/

Men know, most of them only subliminally, that they need to fuck us in order to recharge their batteries. just look at their idea of paradise (if you haven’t watched the video linked above, you should really do it now; it’s very educational). men are dependent on gaining access to our bodies in order to stock up on life force. when they can’t do that regularly, because they don’t have a wife/girlfriend/fuckhole/breeder they personally own, and/or cannot afford to pay a prostituted woman to rape her or date rape a woman etc., they feel the humiliation of their own degeneracy. they can usually keep that realization at bay by fucking us, but when they can’t, they become acutely aware of their need. this shakes them up profusely, because it contradicts their artificially constructed identity that they are gods. gods shouldn’t need to stick their dicks into other beings in order to energize, and all. this unleashes in them a narcissistic rage. they were promised they were gods/princes, and now they are feeling their degeneracy, so not fair.

And this next thing would perfectly describe the wish of darkness to return into nothingness (even though one would need to substitute men for STS).

particularly chilling in this context are the last three sentences of that quote:

“Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts on the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.”

this is the epitome of nihilism, because what he is essentially hoping for is for men to stop having to feel their Selves, their demonic essence. they’d have to kill themselves to achieve that but men being men, they won’t kill themselves (which would be doing the planet a favour), no, consistent with their narcissism they want all that is life-giving (love=life force) to disappear from view, so that nothing can remind them of what they really are: the antithesis of love/life: degenerated mutants.this is the scope of their necrophilia. they feel so humiliated by their own essence in contrast to what they are not and can never be (female), that they would rather destroy everything that has genuine life-force in it (unlike them) than face their own Selves.

So, what are your thoughts on this? What can be learned from this?

 

[ignis.intimus]

I think you are being disingenuous with your line of questioning. You strike me as agreeing to some extent with what these addle brained people have stated and want confirmation, even if only indirectly, of what you already think.

The people you cite are whack-o, same as anyone who lumps the same type of people together. Whether it's based on gender, race, or sexual orientation.

So my main thought is - what do *you really* think of what you posted?

 

[crystalicdream]

I think you are being disingenuous with your line of questioning. You strike me as agreeing to some extent with what these addle brained people have stated and want confirmation, even if only indirectly, of what you already think.

The people you cite are whack-o, same as anyone who lumps the same type of people together. Whether it's based on gender, race, or sexual orientation.

So my main thought is - what do *you really* think of what you posted?

Thank you, this is actually a good questions that you pose, Ignis.intimus.
I must admit that in the past when i first came across this, I at first tended to just agree with some of the things they were saying, especially whenever they mentioned the aspect that the divine feminine is pretty much denied in the societies of today. it just resonated so strongly with me, but then i started to question some of the other things they were saying, and i started to wonder if there is some truth to their teachings, and if so, where does it lie? So yeah, i kind of wanted confirmation that my interpretation of what some of the things they were saying is true.

Lets say, it is comparable to the process of someone coming out of the new age or any other kind of religion, and they start to wonder what of it is true and whhat not. What can they hold on to and what can be thrown overboard, since I must admit, in the beginning, I just rather blindly believed them.


I apologize if starting this thread was nonsense and not very helpful at all to the group.

 

[Henchman 21]

It takes 2 to tango. Best to "judge" (for lack of a better word) people based on their qualities, rather than what they had little or no choice in (race, sex, appearance and other). Without the male, there is no female and without the female there is no male.
I will agree that the sacred feminine has be beaten down, but so has the sacred male (if there is such an ideal).

 

[crystalicdream]

It takes 2 to tango. Best to "judge" (for lack of a better word) people based on their qualities, rather than what they had little or no choice in (race, sex, appearance and other). Without the male, there is no female and without the female there is no male.
I will agree that the sacred feminine has be beaten down, but so has the sacred male (if there is such an ideal).

You are right, both male and female are needed, they are like Yin and yang, two parts of a whole. There is a sacred male part too, i remember that in pagan tribes, both the divine feminine as well as the divine male have been celebrated. But nowadays, the sacred male ideal has also been twisted and distorted, as well as completely denied by some. I know hat this was the one thing that bothered me - the question if the male aspect can really just be denied like that. The previous group I was in certainly did deny it, but it just felt so... incomplete to me.

Thank you for posting a reply. :)

 

[Mr. Premise]

Well since the C's said that the soul is all that matters, all there is is lessons, and that people who have done past life regression often find that their past lives were both male and female, this hating men thing among a subset of radical feminists seems pretty silly. As with any hatred, it allows the hater to project onto the hated group and therefore avoid working on their own issues. Fascism was founded on that! I would imagine among these radical feminist witches there is a lot of pathological types. But they can blame it all on the Patriarchy, which is convenient. No doubt 4D STS types can feed just fine on female pathology in addition to male pathology.

 

[Laura]

Well since the C's said that the soul is all that matters, all there is is lessons, and that people who have done past life regression often find that their past lives were both male and female, this hating men thing among a subset of radical feminists seems pretty silly. As with any hatred, it allows the hater to project onto the hated group and therefore avoid working on their own issues. Fascism was founded on that! I would imagine among these radical feminist witches there is a lot of pathological types. But they can blame it all on the Patriarchy, which is convenient. No doubt 4D STS types can feed just fine on female pathology in addition to male pathology.

True. And having clear memories of numerous past lives, as both male and female, I think the whole premise is ridiculous.

Further, the fact is that it is most often women who are set up to be the energetic black holes, their energy being drained off to 4D STS, than men. In fact, it sounds to me like the woman who wrote the text you quoted above is doing exactly that.

 

[Jenn]

Men know, most of them only subliminally, that they need to -flick- us in order to recharge their batteries. just look at their idea of paradise (if you haven’t watched the video linked above, you should really do it now; it’s very educational). men are dependent on gaining access to our bodies in order to stock up on life force. when they can’t do that regularly, because they don’t have a wife/girlfriend/fuckhole/breeder they personally own, and/or cannot afford to pay a prostituted woman to rape her or date rape a woman etc., they feel the humiliation of their own degeneracy. they can usually keep that realization at bay by -flicking- us, but when they can’t, they become acutely aware of their need. this shakes them up profusely, because it contradicts their artificially constructed identity that they are gods. gods shouldn’t need to stick their dicks into other beings in order to energize, and all. this unleashes in them a narcissistic rage. they were promised they were gods/princes, and now they are feeling their degeneracy, so not fair.

particularly chilling in this context are the last three sentences of that quote:

“Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts on the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.”

this is the epitome of nihilism, because what he is essentially hoping for is for men to stop having to feel their Selves, their demonic essence. they’d have to kill themselves to achieve that but men being men, they won’t kill themselves (which would be doing the planet a favour), no, consistent with their narcissism they want all that is life-giving (love=life force) to disappear from view, so that nothing can remind them of what they really are: the antithesis of love/life: degenerated mutants.this is the scope of their necrophilia. they feel so humiliated by their own essence in contrast to what they are not and can never be (female), that they would rather destroy everything that has genuine life-force in it (unlike them) than face their own Selves.

What really stands out to me is the use of profanities, it shows the intensity of this person's hatred for males. It seems to me the way she is promoting hatred of males, is of the same nature as what she is fighting against, so for me what little truth there may be in what she is saying(which am in no way saying I can determine), is discredited by her overwhelming emotional response to the suppression of women.

What could bring on such hatred towards a whole gender? do they know every single man in the world? I recognise that females can be and are dominated in but to say that all men have demonic essences is a complete distortion of reality... I wonder if some traumatic event has happened to these women, which has made this type of feminism seem appealing...

 

[electrosonic]

I have to agree - all I'm getting from this groups writings is a sense of intense hatred.

It hardly needs to be said how far from anything remotely STO orientated this is.

Reminds me of the stereotypical preacher getting red in the face, screaming blue murder at the pulput about the sins of mankind, and how wicked they are, then claiming to profess love to all in the next breath.

 

[Henchman 21]

I am also certain that most women enjoy sex too. If there is mutual love then it comes naturally within the relationship. Just my last 2 cents on the subject. And certainly not all men are sex crazed Neanderthals, although I am about to go outside and smash a few rocks together and make some grunting noises. ;D

 

[Atreides]

1. Men inherently function as portals for demons and other malevolent beings.

Is the converse possible? For instance, what would you think if I said: Women inherently function as portals for demons and other malevolent beings? That would sound pretty misogynistic, right? I mean, it's not cool to say that ANYONE is inherently as a group anything. It's not okay to say it about blacks, or jews, or any other group. Why is it okay to say it about men?

2. Women are creator beings, filled with enough energy to create, to see into other worlds and dimensions, while -

Look, just because you can squeeze off a trailer park full of carbon copies doesn't make you a creator, it makes you a brood mare. Any yahoo can get knocked up.

Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvhQvXgZr04 Yes...creator beings.

3. Men inherently function as "black holes" in that they do not have the energy to sustain themselves and need to rob females of their energies by means of sexual intercourse. If going without any female energy for a longer amount of time, men become so desperate for the energy input that they might resort to rape and other kinds of assault to get it.

Right. So basically women are the only essential ones, cause I mean, they have infinite energy and creativity. So who needs 'em, right, right, amiright? There is so much fail in this sentence, it's hard to know where to start. Obviously we've dealt with the 'inherent' part. What makes you think that they don't have the energy to sustain themselves? And if they don't get it from a woman, either by trickery or rape, then please explain to me Michelangelo? I mean, Sistine Chapel, pretty awesome, and he loved dudes. Just sayin'

4. Women have been oppressed as a class for at least the last 6000 years, being taught from birth how to placate their male rulers. Basically, they suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome, having learned to placate men to not be killed themselves.

If this was true, I really didn't get the memo. I think most men have a radically different experience of being privileged members of the patriarchy.

I certainly don't agree with the idea that women have been largely oppressed, or more so than men.

Here's an interesting videos on the topic:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3FlbUf5gA

 

[Sol Logos]

Interesting how a broken lens, likely the product of one's upbringing can led many to make a whole series of assumptions and even a philosophical system that supports that broken lens, even though reality indicates otherwise. Simple to verify that assumption that men are all energy suckers etc. It just takes being open to one's own and others personal experiences of men. If we meet one man, who's not an energy vampire or meet a woman who describes a man as not that way, the theory is already starting to look weak... That test is as simple as having interactions in the world we live in, given around 50% of those interactions would / could be with men. Problem is, some (as that feminist group), aren't open to testing their theories by personal experience, as the theory supports holding on to past pain and not resolving it, thus the openness to personally testing these theory must be very really low.

 

[Woodsman]

I've heard men proclaim the exact opposite, (with a straight face).

That men are the "Light" and women are the "Void".

Just look at how men generate creative energy! How selfish of women to try to draw that energy from them in the form of their seed, their emotional support, etc., when men could shine so brightly if left alone!

It's all a result of materialism and linear, one-life thinking. -And probably a strong dose of 4D manipulation to keep people at each other's throats rather than allow them to recognize who the real oppressors are, (psychopaths, bankers and war mongers, etc.).

What I find interesting is that when I realized the nature of the battle of the sexes and stopped engaging in those thought patterns, (which I never really put much grist into to begin with) I found that, (surprise!) I was surrounded by males and females who had similarly left such bitter baggage behind and went about life in a state of mutual respect and recognition of the essential value of the various differences and qualities males and females carry.

Water seeks its own level, like attracts like, etc.

But for many, that lesson is important and worth spending whole lives invested in exploring. I suspect that the ardent feminist/misogynist will probably due to Karma find her/himself with different plumbing next time around.

 

[SummerLite]

I think its quite clear women have been repressed to different degrees and often times severely for a few thousand years. Don't see how there can be any question on that. Looking at the planet as a "whole" this is obvious. On an individual and personal bases, certainly not ALL men are like this at all, fortunately :).

I was thinking today of the motivation behind this. With the premise that our world is ruled by 4d STS why this subjugation of women? We know it hasn't always been this way on the planet. It seems to me one of the most significant strategies to control people is to divide them and have then constantly fighting each other at all levels of society which we say is the predators mind. Certainly generates a lot of energy. A good match between a woman and man contribute in positive ways to both their lives and to those around them hopefully. The two are a working unite making them stronger more so then when they act as a individual and alone. I would call this a healthy, mutually respectful and nurturing relationship. So that HAD to go. With this patriarch control the relations between the sexes has taken a very heavy toll.. Maybe part of it deals with biology also, basic differences between men and women. When the "control" really kicked in the woman was beaten down. I think by nature, women are more protective of life because they give birth and are very protective of that life.. They have to be for survival of the species. So with their "influence" gone wars are fought more easily, their children killed. A feast is more easily had for the STS's. The overview is control and suffering...yum!

Some people claim the Reptiles/Orions are patriarchal, militaristic societies and so that is why we have this on our planet. Do we still have sex differences in 4d? We've spoken of parts of New Mexico moving in and out of 4d STS and I mentioned I may have spent time in such an area and how very mean many of the women where there. (also a lot of hysterectomies, which I thought odd). These women where aggressive dominators and if they where influenced by 4d sts it probably just doesn't matter what gender a person (or reptile) is among the 4d controllers. Maybe throws the possible patriarchy of the Orions etc. out the window perhaps. Who know its just speculation anyway.

This is what the conversation here had me reflecting on today. Clearly there is deep wounding in this woman speaking and is full of hate. A real poison to the soul.

Well said Mr. Premise.

 

[Psalehesost]

The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.