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seek10

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Carlise said:
I've always found it strange how you can find a conspiracy theory about almost anything. People accept the existence of murder, genocide, economic terrorism, 'big pharma', media brainwashing, and most other things the psychos get up to, but touch on the diet/smoking conspiracy and that's just way too out there!

I think that the control over diet is the single biggest tool for the owners of humanity. The grain diet is one of the oldest and deepest programs we have. While a small percentage of people may see that the paleo/VLC diet is better for human health, they still don't think about the bigger picture: WHY have we been fed poison for thousands of years? And who by?

If somebody can't take seriously the idea of hyperdimensional controllers, then they're just not ready to see how huge, efficient, organised and evil the 'Big conspiracy' really is. They don't truly value their own health, because they don't realise that they are living in occupied territory, and their health is the most fundamental tool for standing firm against the occupiers and keeping their free will intact.

It's a very depressing state of affairs, but we will all do what we will do. I guess we'll get to test out the true efficacy of this diet+smoking against some comet viruses soon, maybe that will be the final proof.

Interestingly , the topic on MSM drive time popular radio station discussion here is about "Chem trail/con trails". The host says he got lot of mails regarding this and wants to know what do people think. Many people called and talked all sort of things including Rothschild's and population control through the metals/chemicals in chem trails, flouride, NWO, bildenburgers , etc.Interestingly the host mostly tolerated them instead of dismissing it as conspiracy.

I called expecting usual LONG delay, only to find immediate connection. I mentioned about increasing cosmic weather changes including huge meteors reports. their question is what is the issue in increasing meteors. I ended up explaining bacteria from meteors to food chain which our Inflamed sugar bodies can't tolerate, that may end up black death. This host is some what open minded always critical of governments, politicians and special interest groups, so he dances between openness and sponsors needs . I mentioned about missiles in London Olympics , how they want to hide the meteors with missiles. At one point they abruptly disconnected me when I mentioned that " when people realize that government is not in control, they will revolt". Revolt is the red flag word for them, I think. Any way there is a time difference between what you talk and what they air, probably 5 or 10 sec's, so last portion might have not been aired. At least they discussed about the black death.

My impression from this, Not many people cared about the chem trails/con trails ( since not many callers ) and some body in the control system wants people to think or discuss about them, when ever they see some thing in the sky. they seem to have not bothered about propagating the NWO expose. It is interesting in view of Alex Jones TSA circus.
 
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seek10 said:
Interestingly , the topic on MSM drive time popular radio station discussion here is about "Chem trail/con trails". The host says he got lot of mails regarding this and wants to know what do people think. Many people called and talked all sort of things including Rothschild's and population control through the metals/chemicals in chem trails, flouride, NWO, bildenburgers , etc.Interestingly the host mostly tolerated them instead of dismissing it as conspiracy.

I called expecting usual LONG delay, only to find immediate connection. I mentioned about increasing cosmic weather changes including huge meteors reports. their question is what is the issue in increasing meteors. I ended up explaining bacteria from meteors to food chain which our Inflamed sugar bodies can't tolerate, that may end up black death. This host is some what open minded always critical of governments, politicians and special interest groups, so he dances between openness and sponsors needs . I mentioned about missiles in London Olympics , how they want to hide the meteors with missiles. At one point they abruptly disconnected me when I mentioned that " when people realize that government is not in control, they will revolt". Revolt is the red flag word for them, I think. Any way there is a time difference between what you talk and what they air, probably 5 or 10 sec's, so last portion might have not been aired. At least they discussed about the black death.

My impression from this, Not many people cared about the chem trails/con trails ( since not many callers ) and some body in the control system wants people to think or discuss about them, when ever they see some thing in the sky. they seem to have not bothered about propagating the NWO expose. It is interesting in view of Alex Jones TSA circus.
Hi seek10,

I'm curious as to what you hoped to acheive by the phone call? Perhaps you thought that because the host appeared tolerant of others that it meant they were open minded in general?
 
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truth seeker said:
I called expecting usual LONG delay, only to find immediate connection. I mentioned about increasing cosmic weather changes including huge meteors reports. their question is what is the issue in increasing meteors. I ended up explaining bacteria from meteors to food chain which our Inflamed sugar bodies can't tolerate, that may end up black death. This host is some what open minded always critical of governments, politicians and special interest groups, so he dances between openness and sponsors needs . I mentioned about missiles in London Olympics , how they want to hide the meteors with missiles. At one point they abruptly disconnected me when I mentioned that " when people realize that government is not in control, they will revolt". Revolt is the red flag word for them, I think. Any way there is a time difference between what you talk and what they air, probably 5 or 10 sec's, so last portion might have not been aired. At least they discussed about the black death.

My impression from this, Not many people cared about the chem trails/con trails ( since not many callers ) and some body in the control system wants people to think or discuss about them, when ever they see some thing in the sky. they seem to have not bothered about propagating the NWO expose. It is interesting in view of Alex Jones TSA circus.
Hi seek10,

I'm curious as to what you hoped to acheive by the phone call?
I want to mention about accelerated number of meteors in the sky which they are trying to hide. obviously The discussion went into 'so what?', 'Why to hide?'. Based on my observation of sky in my area, I felt I am seeing less trails than before ( probably I moved to less dense southern area's), so I was suspicious of motive.

Perhaps you thought that because the host appeared tolerant of others that it meant they were open minded in general?

Also, some other person at the switchboard pre screen the calls asking the callers before about what one want to talk, so they know what caller will talk, though it won't be word by word replica. No surprise there. Hosts and callers routinely blame govt, powers etc in these calls for decent number of things. I see a recent caller trend in talking about psychopaths and even the host himself mentioned about people with genetic deficiencies for all problems ( for not using the word psychopath). Given that I think, they don't want air that specific word, which is understandable for a commercial broadcaster. he reads/listens to what many call conspiracies, but leaves clues to public while maintaining official stance.
What ever may the situation is, my purpose is leave the clues, whether it clicks in the brain or not another issue.
 
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seek10 said:
I want to mention about accelerated number of meteors in the sky which they are trying to hide. obviously The discussion went into 'so what?', 'Why to hide?'. Based on my observation of sky in my area, I felt I am seeing less trails than before ( probably I moved to less dense southern area's), so I was suspicious of motive.

Who is trying to hide what? And, more importantly, why would you say such things to a talk radio show host?



What ever may the situation is, my purpose is leave the clues, whether it clicks in the brain or not another issue.
Why are you leaving indecipherable clues (if they were not indecipherable you would not have been cut off) to people who are not asking? From your description, it sounds like you came across as a bit of a crazy person and that's a little concerning considering that you're a member of this forum. How often do you do this?
 
anart said:
seek10 said:
I want to mention about accelerated number of meteors in the sky which they are trying to hide. obviously The discussion went into 'so what?', 'Why to hide?'. Based on my observation of sky in my area, I felt I am seeing less trails than before ( probably I moved to less dense southern area's), so I was suspicious of motive.

Who is trying to hide what? And, more importantly, why would you say such things to a talk radio show host?
I spend 2hrs daily driving during which time I listen to this station for traffic . during this time they ask a question for the public, listen/discuss to different ideas/opinions from callers. 100's call daily. New ideas, conflicting opinions and information from people's different perspectives is the interesting part of it.

We have some discussions regarding the missile testing to hide the meteors. recent weeks, I have seen streaks which is neither fall under meteor streaks or con trails I have seen before . Since no body is mentioning about meteor , My thought process is mention it. Often in these calls, idea builds over many callers observations, not on a single caller.

Normally I don't care to switch on radio at all unless I suspect some traffic issue. I debated a lot before even calling. what's worth of calling?. Worst thing that he will say "Doesn't this sound like conspiracy theory?". In my case, he discussed black death connection to meteor. For lot of all other callers who talked about NWO stuff, he pretty much said it sounded like conspiracy theory. The reason he mentioned the topic at first place is he got lot of emails mentioning about the trails in the sky with possible explanation.

anart said:
seek10 said:
What ever may the situation is, my purpose is leave the clues, whether it clicks in the brain or not another issue.
Why are you leaving indecipherable clues (if they were not indecipherable you would not have been cut off) to people who are not asking? From your description, it sounds like you came across as a bit of a crazy person and that's a little concerning considering that you're a member of this forum. How often do you do this?

Issue is how to read the incident of "cut off". Every day they cut off lot of callers saying "we don't get it" and even play jokes over those callers Or politely they say "sounds like conspiracy theory". In this case, they simply discussed about the meteor connection to black death.

This is a commercial station, Since they pre screen 100's of calls every day in and day out, they react to specific words, so they simply cut off for specific words, which I didn't suspect and I was answering to his question "why to hide?". This station will discuss any topic related to state and he was into some semi activism against corruption.
 
seek10 said:
anart said:
seek10 said:
I want to mention about accelerated number of meteors in the sky which they are trying to hide. obviously The discussion went into 'so what?', 'Why to hide?'. Based on my observation of sky in my area, I felt I am seeing less trails than before ( probably I moved to less dense southern area's), so I was suspicious of motive.

Who is trying to hide what? And, more importantly, why would you say such things to a talk radio show host?
I spend 2hrs daily driving during which time I listen to this station for traffic . during this time they ask a question for the public, listen/discuss to different ideas/opinions from callers. 100's call daily. New ideas, conflicting opinions and information from people's different perspectives is the interesting part of it.

Why, after all your years here do you think the topics we discuss are appropriate for public consumption on a radio talk show? You're basically doing the same thing Alex Jones does - without the background information, you're presenting what comes across like wild insane ideas to people who are just going to be pushed away by your presentation. Where is your external consideration? Where is your strategic enclosure?

s said:
We have some discussions regarding the missile testing to hide the meteors. recent weeks, I have seen streaks which is neither fall under meteor streaks or con trails I have seen before . Since no body is mentioning about meteor , My thought process is mention it. Often in these calls, idea builds over many callers observations, not on a single caller.

Again- where is your strategic enclosure and external consideration? A radio talk show is not the forum. What's worse is that you presenting these ideas the way that you are ensures that people who might later come across them will associate them with that crazy rambling man on the radio who gets cut off by the host. Do you see that you are likely actually doing damage, not "planting seeds"?

s said:
Issue is how to read the incident of "cut off". Every day they cut off lot of callers saying "we don't get it" and even play jokes over those callers Or politely they say "sounds like conspiracy theory". In this case, they simply discussed about the meteor connection to black death.

This is a commercial station, Since they pre screen 100's of calls every day in and day out, they react to specific words, so they simply cut off for specific words, which I didn't suspect and I was answering to his question "why to hide?". This station will discuss any topic related to state and he was into some semi activism against corruption.

No, the issue isn't how to read being cut off - you were cut off, period. If you were making sense, you would not have been cut off. So, whatever you were saying is now associated with the crazy guy who got cut off on the radio. Seek10, no offense, but you have a strong tendency to ramble incoherently on topics, I've witnessed it - you are unaware of this tendency of yours, but please take the fact that you were cut off as more evidence of this. Please read up on strategic enclosure and external consideration - these should be elementary issues.
 
It’s also helpful to remember the hard work it took for us to arrive at understanding these things. Work on the self too was required.

Listening to the radio is pretty much passive, and what’s being heard is, for most people, merely filtered by their current view of things and interpreted according to various biases.

I suppose there may be an occasional “that’s curious”or“never thought about it that way,” but it’s not very likely that this would motivate serious inquiry imo.
 
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seek10 said:
truth seeker said:
Perhaps you thought that because the host appeared tolerant of others that it meant they were open minded in general?

Also, some other person at the switchboard pre screen the calls asking the callers before about what one want to talk, so they know what caller will talk, though it won't be word by word replica. No surprise there. Hosts and callers routinely blame govt, powers etc in these calls for decent number of things. I see a recent caller trend in talking about psychopaths and even the host himself mentioned about people with genetic deficiencies for all problems ( for not using the word psychopath). Given that I think, they don't want air that specific word, which is understandable for a commercial broadcaster. he reads/listens to what many call conspiracies, but leaves clues to public while maintaining official stance.
What ever may the situation is, my purpose is leave the clues, whether it clicks in the brain or not another issue.
It's very easy to be hooked into giving information when it's not really being asked for. Quite common, in fact. However, I think it's important, as has been said, to be aware of these urges to teach or play god in the lives of others as it usually results in hampering their lessons.

Jerry said:
It’s also helpful to remember the hard work it took for us to arrive at understanding these things. Work on the self too was required.
Indeed. It's often very tempting to 'set the record straight' but perhaps, seek10, try to keep in mind that we all were deeply asleep at one time and are still striving to stay awake. Those who haven't made that choice yet, of their own free will and through their own efforts, will in most cases will fight to remain asleep.
 
Yep, the urge to speak out can be great. There is some self serving satisfaction to be gained from jumping up on the pulpit and saving others from all of this. I still fight the old urge to proselytize. It felt good, as I remember. Some years ago, I did not know the meaning of the mere word of esoteric. Through time here I have been exposed to much information and am quite grateful to ALL here. I am not who I was, and still get feelings of being densely ignorant.

If this forum existed back while in my prior state, with it's current topics & contents, and if I would have stumbled across it, or someone discussed all this... Well... I just don't know what reaction I would have had. Seems to me that in order to learn, deeply in that "being" and perceptions change, takes some time, if not years, if even ever.

Strategic enclosure and external consideration are yes, elementary and necessary. Years ago those concepts would have been as foreign to me as some outlandish alien language. Gibberish from the Andromeda Quadrant I would think.

One does not take a calculus course if ignorant of algebra...

edit: (or) One does not teach calculus if ignorant of algebra...
 
If you're gonna do something like this, then I'd recommend just talking about psychopathy. As has been mentioned, your 'crazy comet' theories don't go down well with the masses, but psychopathy is more accessible, especially in these days of obvious rampant corruption everywhere.

Only thing is, coming across as calm, rational and knowledgeable isn't so easy when you're put on the spot and system 1 runs away with us. Think of how your actions may turn people off from 'weird' ideas, put yourself in their shoes.
 
Well, unless they gave his name out or something, I think no harm done. Sometimes you just gotta try stuff, no matter how nutty it might be both to metabolize your own frustration and to maybe plant a seed. Just be careful how you do it and try to stick to topics that might actually help others if they are made curious enough to start searching on their own.
 
Laura said:
Well, unless they gave his name out or something, I think no harm done. Sometimes you just gotta try stuff, no matter how nutty it might be both to metabolize your own frustration and to maybe plant a seed. Just be careful how you do it and try to stick to topics that might actually help others if they are made curious enough to start searching on their own.

Yeah, and also, it would be a good idea to have it clear in your head what you want to say, and consider whether or not you'll be able to convey a coherent message given hat you'll have a limited time slot. No point in broaching a topic that you won't have enough time to do justice to.
 
Thank you for the input. this was thought process that led me to call.

As I mentioned before, This topic itself is not a MSM topic, but some how they started it and given good wiggle room one is allowed to talk left me thinking to extend the topic to usual weird weather pattern( which they extensively discuss) to cosmic weather changes with well known examples of weather patterns in other planets etc. This is where red line disappeared what is really acceptable or not. My initial intent is talk about " look at the sky of changed cosmic environment", but more questioning lead to direction it ultimately went. I didn't expect that they will think meteors are harmless.

There is another argument that made to call is "Heck, you listen to them daily, you keep wishing people get the stuff about what is going on the sky. instead of cribbing that they won't get it, why can't you call and hint it, particularly when they are asking for a opinion". they may reject some concepts, fine-Not every thing is irrelevant.

Whether I can convey the message ?: - How many tom, dick and harry's call to mention their point of view, how ever irrational it is. you are not calling as a expert affiliated to some thing, just another caller.

Possibility of Association with crazy/ Ridiculing the idea : This is some thing they can always do it when ever they want. we all see the polarization of acceptable( authority version ) vs conspiracy. Given the number of people they cut/ridicule/play jokes daily, I looked that one as my own "fear of rejection" rather than any thing else. How many times I thought this is untouchable over the years only to be found that some body else raised?. Ex: psychopathy. I could be wrong though.

Another thing I thought is 'Is it Safe? ". Any way we give fake name, but if some body in authority wants they can get cell phone and track it, they can. The argument that came is "If some body wants to track people based on ideas they can do it fantastically using facebook than going all the troubles of getting the phone number through authority and tracing etc. Didn't I got scared to post sott articles to facebook or other websites". push it and see how it goes.

There is no way I can convey the message that hiding meteors missiles with a proof. the nature of the topic itself is like that. the best I can say "see the missiles in london olympics"- how do you explain that. This type of circumstantial pointing they do a lot in these calls. so I went into that direction. I might have gone too far there. In fact, I was some what surprised, the discussion went that far in that short time and host picked some points and wondered of what else going on.

Yes, I got tempted to call as if it is a release of daily frustration from listening. Yes, I some times ramble.

I have no intention of justifying my thought process or decision except to mention and learn from it.
 
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