Rambling Rant, The New Message from God, the African Red Path and homeopathy!

Caz

The Force is Strong With This One
Some days seeing things differently from the average person and having a conscience about the world can feel a little threatening....ever get the feeling that the walls of your bower are closing in? Today felt a little like that....it happens now and then. I'm a 42 year old white woman walking around Belfast, Northern Ireland with dreadlocks - my hair is so wild these days it's actually one of the neatest looks I can achieve. But Northern Ireland is pretty conservative and I find I get stared at a lot, judged and am probably considered some grubby, leftist hippy! On occasion people have spewed their insecurities at me. I wouldn't mind, but I don't fit in with the so called lefties, or hippies much either. The more I learn about how the left has been co-opted, and share my discoveries on FB the more my left-leaning acquaintances seem to think I'm some closet right wing racist. Today I was delivering some flour that I was giving away (going ketogenic) to another lady, and she made a point of explaining to me that she was going to be using the flour as part of an effort by ANTIFA here in Belfast to make cakes for local Muslims. I felt her judging me for some resent posts I'd shared about ANTIFA's antics in Charlottesville, looking for a reaction and it made me uneasy. It reminded me how different you become when you are only looking for truth and not aligning yourself with any one particular agenda - and how people of perfectly good intent can unwittingly become the Stasi police for our 4th dimensional 'handlers.' Obviously I think its a good thing to work to bridge tensions in our community - someone apparently thought it was a good idea to put a pigs head outside a local mosque here and this lady is working with the local ANTIFA group to ease tensions - and I commend that. Like all of you I expect, I'm all for humans working together with other humans, peaceably, and against groups which intentionally provoke hatred and division. What worries me is the how the mainstream manipulation of the narrative can have perfectly reasonable people judging me as extremist for being concerned about things like current immigration policies, the rise of an aggressive, intolerant left and seeing that this combination could lead to much greater violence and unrest if allowed to continue unabated.

Then I'm learning homeopathy, which I love, but even here, whilst the people on my course are lovely, the New Age agenda is rampant amongst my fellow students and tutors, so there's a lot there that I just don't share as common interest - which tends to create a distance. And then before that, I was involved in a couple of interesting spiritual organisations, both of which I've extricated myself from since, and so, felt the need to separate myself from those still involved that were close friends at one time.

I'm guessing I'm not alone here in being a person who has become involved in a lot of different things throughout my life....always searching and constantly finding myself moving on from one thing to the next - whilst others seem to stay where they are - either from some inner misgiving that something isn't quite right or from some clearer realisation of a negative agenda behind an organisation. And so it goes....you get to being a bit different and its sometimes a weird and slightly lonely place to be! Not expecting any answers to this little rant, just thought it would be a safe place to collect my thoughts and share a little camaraderie.

Did want to share a little about a couple of spiritual paths I've been involved with in the recent past though - that might be of interest to people here as examples of possible COINTELPRO in the first instance and 4th density manipulation of the Shamanic path in the second...

The first group is called 'The New Message from God'. I was involved with them for probably around 3 or 4 years. They are a newish religious group - born in the early 1980's ish. The crux of the message is that the world is currently undergoing an extraterrestrial 'intervention' behind the scenes and that this is part of a bid by various extraterrestrial groups to gain control of our world and thus our resources - in particular biological resources. The way to see through this deception is given as acquiring 'Knowledge' - but here not meaning facts - but spiritual understanding - through meditation, reading the books and 'Revelations' of the New Message and through observing world events very carefully. So you can see that there are similarities - in some sense - although with a different slant - to the message of the Cassiopeian's. It would seem to me that this is quite a high level COINTELPRO trap. The spiritual ideas in the NM are also pretty spot on as far as I could tell also - in other words - this group are peddling a lot of truth about what is behind the current state of our world and have aligned themselves with what they term 'Greater Community Spirtuality' which as I say - appeared to contain a lot of spiritual truth and wisdom from my perspective. My fear and current belief is that this is some CIA set up to corral those not entrapped by greater lies such as the New Age agenda.

The material of the NM is 'channelled' through a man called Marshall Vian Summers, an American from California, based now in Denver, Colorado of all places, and includes a multitude of books and spoken 'Revelations.' Marshall claims - through his Revelations - to be the new Messenger of God, in the line of Jesus, Mohammed and the Buddha with a new Revelation to warn and prepare Humanity for the Greater Community of Worlds - to teach us how to negotiate the threat of the Greater Community safely and to usher in the new 'Greater Community Spirituality' - practised in all spiritually advanced Worlds. Marshall, his son and his right hand man are all unusually tall and carry an unusual presence. His right hand man/ security was, I was told, involved in the secret services prior to his involvement with the NM. My experience of being around these 3 men was basically that I would almost jump out of my skin when we crossed paths. Something I found very confusing at the time. They certainly had a strong presence. Once, Marshall sat next to me at breakfast in a hotel where we were holding a small conference in the UK. I remember feeling so uncomfortable, I began to laugh nervously and could hardly string a sentence together. At several of these up-close gatherings I was really struggling within myself - you know when something really evil approaches on a film and even the creepy crawlies fly - well it kind of felt like that. It was as if all that was negative in me was coming to the surface - like some immense struggle was going on. There were lots of strange things which I wont go into here but suffice to say now I look back with a little more perspective - say - it begins to look a lot like a COINTELPRO opp. The main book - called 'Steps to Knowledge' is a 365 day contemplation and meditation manual - think Course in Miracles - only higher level spiritual deception. You were very much encouraged to immerse yourself in the writings and teachings of the NM, in your practice and in the people, and to avoid 'conspiracy theory' and 'those without Knowledge', there was also great encouragement to advocate far and wide for the NM and to support it financially...just saying!

I also became involved with another, quite different group. In South Africa there are 2 shamanic paths - one called the white path and the other the red path. I had trained a little with a shaman on the white path quite some time ago during his visits to North Wales, and then more recently I ended up staying with a couple of friends in Northern Ireland who had been initiated into the red path. The roots of both paths are very close, working with various ancestors and spirits, but the red path is said to be 'hotter' - faster if you like. So basically, the red path involves allowing yourself to become directly possessed by spirits and speak for them, where as the white path is a bit more sedate - hearing the news and then sharing it. There is also learning to become a healer using herbs and deviniation using the 'bones,' dancing, singing and lots of rituals. So, staying at my friends house I began to see what happened when these spirits came through - and I found it quite frightening. I was in the NM at the time and had no intention of touching what they were involved with with a barge poll. But gradually they began working on me - the spirits started asking for me and giving me messages and asking me to train. To cut a long story short - eventually I came to believe that I should train - which meant getting initiated in South Africa - as it must have been part of my path - some agreement I'd made prior to coming here. I went to South Africa and went through the initiations in a township in Grahamstown. It was not an enjoyable experience. The initiations involve a lot of killing of goats and cows, drinking blood, smoking and drinking strange substances, and being sick a lot. Being white in a poor township meant that everyone wanted a piece of you - because obviously you had money. And the infighting, dark magic being flung about and general craziness in the township were difficult to endure. Post coming home and a bit of an awakening - and a lot of reading - I now believe that what are being channelled here are 4th density STS beings. The blood, rituals, hierarchical structure of the shaman society, the pointlessness of what was being channelled, the strange rituals and weird 'missions' to sacred sites the beings would send us on and so forth - all speak of this to me now I look back. So it seems that South African shamanism has been infiltrated for a long time. It is a sad situation, because their spiritual beliefs and ceremonies are one of the few things the people have in the township. Life is tough there, and dangerous. And the trend to indoctrinate white people into the service of these entities is on the increase - we heard of plenty of other white folks 'being called.'

So life has been interesting these past few years! The final thing that I wanted to share is what snapped me out of these two spiritual traps shortly after my return from South Africa. I'd been working with a homeopath here in Northern Ireland for some time, and after a particularly bad experience with the use of a herb that was given to me in South Africa, I had been knocked right out of my body and left in a state of trauma. My shamanic friend/'teacher' didn't seem to be able to help me deal with it, so I went to my homeopath, who realised straight away that I wasn't right. She gave me a high potency dose of a remedy called 'Stramonium.' This remedy is for intense fear and happily it brought me back into my body and back to my more usual self. But it also had an unexpected side-effect. 'Religious Insanity' is also part of the picture of Stramonium!!! After the treatment something deep inside of me changed - and I would not allow myself to even look at the NM or the Red path again...I walked away from both...and for some time didn't know what to believe. In the ensuing year or so I've done a fair bit of research, including reading 'Secret History of the World', 'Almost Human' and 'High Strangeness' and begun to piece the strange happenings of my recent life together. I've also begun to train as a Homeopath and am experimenting with using it on myself in new and interesting ways. So, whilst there are difficult days sometimes for folks who have begun to wake up, and the future looks increasingly uncertain, I guess I'm more grateful for how interesting my life has panned out thus far and grateful to be aware of some of the deceptions at least, of this complex world! I'd certainly wouldn't swap for going back to sleep!
 
That is quite a rant, Caz! You said "I guess I'm more grateful for how interesting my life has panned out thus far and grateful to be aware of some of the deceptions at least, of this complex world! I'd certainly wouldn't swap for going back to sleep!" I totally agree with you. Even though being aware and knowing some things is often not pleasant and leaves me feeling isolated from most people, I would not want to go back to sleep either.
 
Marshall Vian Summers got his source from 4D STO according to C (2002 forgot exact date). He is just bad writer or could be because he channel from dream different than automatic writing or Laura's board. You should just read "Life in the universe". That one is printed with some editing help. Overall, the message not much different than C. Yes New age message got a lot of bad reputation, maybe you should try pathwork or some of the earliest writing which are very solid quality work.
 
Hay Seven Feathers - yes I did go on a bit there! :shock: - a bit of self indulgence in that rant ....thanks for wading through it and for your kind reply :)

Hay Curious Beagle, thank you also for baring with my post! I'm very interested to find that quote that you speak of re Marshall Vian Summers from the C's. I have all the wave series books and am gradually wading through them - but there don't seem to have any dates associated with the transcripts - and I can't find any time line for the material on cassiopaea.org either. Can anyone advise me on how to pinpoint the 2002 material pls?

I've read 'Life in the Universe' ...I read pretty much every New Message book over the years I was a 'student'. I'm not sure what you are referring to here though:

Curious Beagle said:
maybe you should try pathwork or some of the earliest writing which are very solid quality work.

...are you meaning shamanic pathwork, and the earliest writings of the New Message? (I haven't heard any referral to pathwork in the New Message). If you are then, I'm already acquainted with both....I'm not really looking for any new religious/ spiritual - I'm just looking for the truth above anything else right now I'd say :)
 
Ah...I found it - on the fomum's here: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18686.msg176757#msg176757

Many thanks Curious Beagle - I'd been looking for any references to the New Message but couldn't find any thing from my searches on the Cassiopaea web sites. I'm not entirely sure what to make of what the C's say here - it will need some contemplation and digestion - but very useful to have found it.

All the best.
 
i post this in this thread because it refers to marshall vian summers.

i received an email on this new publication on his site, which i found quite logical and in line with the cass communications.

the link is:


it is a rather long read but worthwhile in my opinion.
 
i post this in this thread because it refers to marshall vian summers.

i received an email on this new publication on his site, which i found quite logical and in line with the cass communications.

the link is:


it is a rather long read but worthwhile in my opinion.
I read this article out of curiosity. Well, "Information" content wise it is not much - People are sleeping, earth changes coming and proposed solution is tap into "Knowledge within yourself place by the God". We read this message from new age channels thousand times.

At least we know that discerning "Knowledge within" itself is a LONG process with all sorts of hurdles. It is not as simple as this "God" is trying to say.
 
He is the one (marshall vian summers), that channeled the Allies of Humanity material. It was asked about in the sessions and were informed that the entities channeled were 4D STO.
 
He is the one (marshall vian summers), that channeled the Allies of Humanity material. It was asked about in the sessions and were informed that the entities channeled were 4D STO.
23-february-2002
Q: (Jeannine) Can I ask my question? (L) Go ahead. (DN) Are 'The Allies of Humanity' a valuable resource?

A: All is of value if examined with an open mind and proper perspective.

Q: (L) You can get more specific, you know: vague in, vague out. The hardest thing about the process is thinking about the question. (V) Well, just from reading the table of contents of this Allies of Humanity book, it looks like they're trying to define a lot of subject matter, they're trying to define what is God, what is ... (DG) Spiritual.

A: Or from their perspective.

Q: (V) Where does the information emanate from?

A: Channeled.

Q: (V) Channeled by who? (JN) Channeled by Marshall Summers. (V) But who is it that is channeling through Marshall Summers? (JN) The Allies of Humanity. (V) You are missing my point. That's a name they give themselves. I want to know: what kind of source are they?

A: 4th density.

Q: (V) STS, STO?

A: STO predominates.

Q: (V) Well that's cool.

A: Keep in mind that the 4th density STO perspective has a tendency to exclude certain factors by virtue of choice of realm frequency. This means that the lesson profile of 4th density STO is to enhance the energy by association in networks that do not include ongoing contact with STS, and so their perspective is on the positive STO experience.

Q: (R) So they can choose realms as frequencies or such where they do not have contact with STS because STS are not of the same frequency. (L) At 4D, those who graduate to STO are working on enhancement of what is already a choice rather than the problem of making the choice. It's there, it's made, it's done. (R) This has to go back to the question that you started with about Allies from 4D because, it's "all is of value if examined with a open mind and proper perspective." From our perspective, any help that we would get from 4D STO includes the fact that we have to keep in mind that they don't have to deal with things that we do. (L) Right. (R) So any help that we get from them, we will have to add the extra context ... (L) Of our reality.

A: First awareness of the choice comes. Then making the choice. Then enhancing the energy to graduate. The problem of 3rd density is identifying what to choose, since so much is veiled from you.
 

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