RBN's Stadtmiller Promotes Revere Psychopaths & Rense Liars

[Lisa Guliani]

~ Act I ~

John Stadtmiller Hires
New Disinfo Artist
http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/rbndisinfo.html
by Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani



A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and the same applies to a radio network. John Stadtmiller at RBN could be building a dynamite force down there in Texas which could conceivably pose a serious challenge to the mainstream media's lie machine. And, considering how GCN has been so disgraced with hosts such as mentally ill Alex Jones and another creep who harbors sexual degenerates and drug dealers on his website, RBN could really outshine its "supposed" competition.

Yet Stadtmiller keeps shooting himself in the foot by hiring blatant disinformation specialists. Last year it was Greg Szymanski - a guy who has been so discredited that he's in the same league as Tom Flocco and the Ghost Troops. Why do you think he no longer writes for the American Free Press? Because they caught onto his ruse, as did so many others. On top of that, Szymanski was boring as hell. [If anyone suffered from insomnia, all they had to do was listen to this guy for ten minutes and it was guaranteed they'd be asleep before the first commercial.] At least John had the sense to dump this cretin.

But now, Stadtmiller brought onboard a 23-year old Jewish kid named D.L. Abrahamson that is so brazenly disinfo that our jaws dropped when hearing him. [The "expert" is pictured above] During his September 26, 2006 hour-long broadcast, Abrahamson made the following statements in regard to 9-11:

~ All the cell phone calls on Flight 93 were real.
~ Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
~ The Pentagon hole was big enough to fit a Boeing 757.
~ Al Qaeda did 9-11.
~ The hijackers were real.
~ All four planes were really hijacked.
~ Mohammad Atta was a double agent (think Daniel Hopsicker).
~ Saudis, Pakistanis & Muslims were involved, but no mention of Israel.
~ Some people on the four 9-11 planes were probably double agents.
~ There was wreckage found at the Pentagon that proves Flight 77 hit it.
~ Flight 77 DID crash "a little bit" into the ground before it hit the Pentagon, and this is why the hole isn't in the center of the building.
~ There were eyewitnesses to Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon (sure, but how many were credible ones).
~ 9-11 was an inside job to the degree that NORAD did not intercept the planes. That's the only involvement our government had as far as it being an "inside job."
~ Saudis/Pakistanis/Muslims want to kill us and destroy our country (total neo-con schtick ala Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, and Michael Savage).

Abrahamson also said that anybody who states that the Flight 93 cell phone calls were fake are either:

a) sorely mistaken
b) didn't do their homework
c) or they're operatives

This 23-year old "expert" also proclaimed that the 9-11 physical evidence is nothing more than "speculative garbage," and that we should stop focusing on it. Doesn't that sound exactly like what another patent disinformation specialist said - Mike Ruppert!

On his MySpace page, this kid also promotes RBN competitors such as Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, and mega-creep Jack Blood; yet during his above-mentioned broadcast he took pot shots at the American Free Press, Barnes Review, Willis Carto, and the Scholars for 9-11 Truth (some of whom have shows on RBN). Very peculiar, don't you think?

Also, just like ultra-paranoid shyster Alex Jones, Abrahamson repeatedly told the audience that "his life is seriously in danger" and how he's being watched by intelligence agencies. The only problem is, he just suddenly popped out of nowhere (just like so many other infiltrators). Consider: he's only had a show on RBN for three weeks, and his website only went online this summer. How did he all of a sudden become public enemy # 1? [We'll tell you how - it's all unadulterated bullshit.]

Plus, this kid talked at length about how dangerous al Qaeda and the Pakistanis were to America, yet conveniently forgot to stress Israel's long history of terrorism and illegal spying. Do you think it has something to do with his last name - Abrahamson?

We realize that Stadtmiller wants to reach a younger audience, but why resort to a 23-year old Jewish disinformation artist that promotes hip hop, worships at the altar of Alex Jones (who also runs a massive Zionist protection racket), and pushes the worst in 9-11 skullduggery? If Stadtmiller's trying to put a younger face on the 9-11 movement, couldn't he at least find one that tells the truth?

C'mon, John, you have some excellent hosts on RBN; get this bozo off the air before he poisons the entire network and you're left with nothing but a sinking ship.

NOTE: To hear more, listen to WING TV's September 27th broadcast.
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Now, instead of doing the right thing, what does Stadtmiller do? He plays right into the disinfo artist's hands and does exactly what was intended.
By design, this disinfo twit puts out the bad info, expecting that somewhere down the line he will be called out on it by us or others. We call him out on it and in the process, call Stadtmiller on it too. So, Mr. Disinfo instigates the "situation" and Stadtmiller reacts in his usual manner, apparently not realizing he is being played by his own "host". He then attacks us for calling out the disinfo guy and challenging him ABOUT WHY the BLATANTLY OBVIOUS disinfo guy is allowed on RBN in the first place. Instead of admitting he was wrong, or that his host is spewing a truckload of horsesh*t (hold your nose, people), Stadtmiller plays right into the whole Israel protection racket. Hmm.. Not so smart there, John-boy. So what does Stadtmiller do?
Or should I say, what does Stadtmiller's uncontrolled anger dictate that he do?

He attacks WING TV with the old bogus hitpieces written by liars off the website of another pathological liar, Jeff Rense.
He then digs his hole significantly deeper by posting even more lies of a psychopathic sexual harasser and cyberstalking degenerate who has been attacking me for a year and a half, someone who is garnering himself a nice little police file in Pennsylvania every time he insists on sticking his foot in his mouth or gets his little "pals" to do so on his behalf. John Stadtmiller is now proving that RBN is no different and no better than GCN.
It is clear for all to see.

Stadtmiller, led around in typical fashion by his ANGER, instead of his intellect, decides the wisest course of action is to promote documented psychopaths and proven liars on the RBN website in a lame attempt to smear me and Victor Thorn for calling RBN on the Abrahamson disinfo - rather than uh, take the appropriate action with his own show host and admit that this kid is bad news and correct the problem...LOLOL.

This must be the new definition of "Christian" that now sets the tone on the RBN Network.
Congratulations, Stadtmiller. You have now sunk to an all-time low by openly promoting psychopaths who blatantly participate in hate crimes against women.
In doing so, you now hold hands with not only the viper's den known as GCN, but also assorted psychopaths and proven pathological liars, for all to see.
And in doing so, Stadtmiller shows HIS true colors.

One might pause to ponder, Just how did this Abrahamson kid even get on RBN in the first place? Who, pray tell, pushed for him to get a spot on that network? Who might possibly want to engage in an Israeli protection racket on the RBN venue? How is it remotely possible that RBN, a network that can't exactly call itself PRO-ISRAEL by a long shot, how does this pro-Israel disinformation artist land up with his own program spewing garbage that is diametrically opposed to other information being offered there? How is this disinfo artist allowed to promote lies on a network whose slogan is, "Because you CAN handle the truth!"
Moreover, who got him on there in the first place? Was it, by any chance, the great Webster Tarpley, who ever-so-conveniently is also an RBN show host? Mr. Disinfo mentions Tarpley in glowing terms, has "brainstormed" with Tarpley, and lists Tarpley as his "chief consultant" on Abrahamson's own website.
The same Tarpley who embraces the "no-planes at the WTC" crapola, the same Tarpley who steers around Israeli-Zionist-Israeli-firster involvement in the events of 9-11, the same Tarpley who helped Abrahamson launch ihis new website this summer.....Tarpley, the "chief consultant".
Stadtmiller, apparently not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and in the throes of one of his typical temper tantrums, falls into the trap of the disinfo artist and is now attacking US, for telling the truth - instead of the shill for telling the lies - all by design.
What an interesting turn of events...LOLOLOLOLOL.


As they say, "Onward, Christian soldiers......" (what a joke..)

BUT....It is a good day for TRUTH.

(see Stadtmiller b.s. below)

~ Act II ~

WING TV: Friend or Foe
http://www.rbnlive.com/wing.html

 

[Laura]

As I wrote on this thread here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3463

What never ceases to amaze me is the fact that most of the so-called 9-11 "Truth" people don't seem to have a real clue about how the perpetrators of such a crime as 9-11 would manage the "information flow" so as to "get away" with it. After all, we are talking about crime on a global scale, conscienceless criminals, and unlimited resources being put to work to keep the masses complacent. Hmmm... ya'll really ought to read "In Broad Day Light" by Harry M. Maclean (ISBN 0-440-20509-3) to get a microcosm of how the system works. It would also help everyone to read Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed. Without sufficient data, everyone is truly helpless against such a monster as psychopaths and Pathocrats.

There are so many examples in our history that anyone who availed themselves of this information would easily be able to see that there is NO "9-11 Truth Movement," that it is - and was from its inception - a counter-intellligence psy-op. That includes nearly EVERYONE involved and includes the releasing of data and clues that are both true and false

So, if you start out knowing, without a doubt, that a counter-intelligence operation is going to be planned and run parallel with the crime, then you start out looking at EVERYONE with suspicion - which is really the only proper approach.

Thorn and Lisa are among the very few who are really trying to do this as far as I can tell. I have learned, by hard experience, to do "due diligence" as far as is possible, in my interactions with anyone new. As a result of our work in psychopathy, our work and experience with online groups, Ark's 30 years as an educator, and my experience as a hypnotherapist, we have a pretty good idea of how to tell if a person is sincere or not.

In recent months, I have had an opportunity to interact with quite a number of the so-called "9-11 Experts" (as many of them present themselves to be) and everything I have written above was confirmed: nearly ALL of them are part of the cover-up; you can take that to the bank. There are, of course, sincere truth-seekers in the bunch, but for the most part, even those are rendered ineffective and impotent by clever management by "handlers" and agents provocateur, etc. I would say that Nimmo probably falls in this latter category. He is well-meaning and sincere, but he is way out of his depth. You could say that, for someone as paranoid as he is, he sure misses the big banana on this one.

The fact is, wherever there is a possibility of gaining prestige, or power, or a way to make money without really working, that is where you are going to find psychological deviants including psychopaths. So, even if there were NOT a planned, parallel psy-op in place, that factor alone would render the "9-11 Truth" crowd highly suspect. More than that, the psychopath - in his many variations - is the kind of individual who can give everyone the right impression; they can construct a facade for every purpose, they can look and sound like the real thing, but behind this mask of sanity is a liar, a deceiver and a manipulator.

In any milieu where they "move in", they carefully and manipulatively build up a power base and very soon, any movement is going exactly where THEY want it to go.

The ways and means that these kinds of things are accomplished are described in great detail in Political Ponerology. I offered free copies of Ponerology to almost everyone in the entire 9-11 Truth Movement. I mean FREE. No cost, not even for shipping. And it was carefully explained that this book would help them to understand how their organizations, their movement, could so easily be taken over by agents and vectored so that nothing positive would ever happen.

You want to know how many people asked for a copy?

Besides Victor and Lisa, there were only 2 - yes TWO. Out of something like 100 people or so.

Now, the funny thing about this is that, some months back, before Ponerology was actually published, while we were still getting it ready, I sent copies of the original MS to both Kurt Nimmo and John Kaminski. Nimmo wrote back to me about it:

I don't know what to tell you about the COINTELPRO angle inside the
truth movement. We know such things exist. And they have since I first
became active during the Vietnam War. In fact, I was a direct victim of such
agent provocateur behavior in 1970. Later, a woman I knew told me (she was
drunk) that she was contracted by the FBI to keep an eye on me. I don't know
why she would admit this, or if she was telling a lie. These sort of people
will always be around and there is really not much that can be done about
it. Others are simply crazy, I believe, and yet others put forward bizarre
theories that make all of us out to be nuts. Thankfully, we have the
internet and do not rely on face-to-face communication and organizations, so
easy to subvert....

I believe forums and face-to-face organizations contribute to the spread (like an infection) of
crazy ideas and pathology. I figure if I am sort of like a hermit or monk, I
can avoid the infection. Conversely, people can avoid my disease as well. I
realize none of this is conducive to making this a better society and
planet. I guess people can take what I offer - an often odd discourse, if
occasionally spot on - and leave the rest.

Kaminski was unable to finish the book. I later asked him about Controversy of Zion and he gave it high ratings, but then I realized that he hadn't read it either (or had only read bits and pieces.)

It has only been recently that I have begun to realize that it is only when one is working with groups - with people - directly, and over a long period of time, and with the intention of actually trying to do something positive, that the insights given in Ponerology actually take on their proper significance. I suspect that Kaminski, like Nimmo and so many others are just like "hermits or monks" who offer their own opinion now and again, which may or may not be "spot on" and do not really have any capacity to really care in a profound way about our reality, about humanity, and what is taking place on the planet as a result of 9-11. Certainly, if they did, they would get over themselves and try to figure out how to work WITH people in an effective way in order to actually accomplish something. And the first step to doing that is to learn how to weed out the deviant elements so that the objectives of any group can be achieved.

They are not interested in any real humanitarian objectives being achieved. Almost none of them are. They are just riding this bronco for as long as they can stay in the saddle, and having their 5 minutes of fame and making a few bux (most of them.) Meanwhile, they are narcissistically patting themselves on the back about what good people they are, what good writers they are, how much attention they can get, the idea of actually being effective - of DOing - be damned.

And that's just the well-meaning, but psychologically impotent ones.

The REAL "agents" are another story altogether, and they are masters of managing the well-meaning types. They go to special schools to learn these things. Everyone of the well-meaning types has a profile in some computer somewhere, and there are standard ways of manipulating them. Of that you may be sure. You don't think that the corporations that run the government spend all that money on psychologists and psychiatrists and detailed surveys of attitudes and so on to not USE that information, do you? And if anyone thinks that, alone, they can out-think them - with their unlimited resources and special knowledge of the psychology of the normal human (who they have more or less created anyway over the last 50 years via the education system and media control) - you had better think again.

It's really pitiful and pathetic. So few people in the so-called 9-11 movement really have a handle on what is going on; Lisa and Thorn are among them, and their grasp of it is increasing everyday, and Dave McGowan has to be counted among them also. Sorry, I have fingers left over on my hand...

Sure, there are more of them that are well-meaning - I think Prof. Steven Jones is one of them, Kurt Nimmo is one of them - and a couple others, but the vast majority of the 9-11 "Truth" folks are AGENTS OF DISINFORMATION.

You can take that to the bank.

Having said all of that, I think it was a bit doctrinaire to make the discussion a Jewish issue; it isn't. It's an issue of cointelpro and deviants in power whatever their religion, color or ethnicity.

We don't need to make things "black or white," that's counterproductive, but all the issues Lisa and Thorn brought up about Abrahamson's ideas are on the money.

 

[anart]

Well, anyone who reads the RBNlive article and doesn't see clearly that this is a direct ponerological response to the truth of what was presented by WINGtv, isn't paying attention. As we've noticed again and again these days, you can tell the percentage of truth in any article or presentation by the strength of the backlash it generates from the 'system'.

In this situation the truth is ugly and it's not for the weak of mind or weak of purpose - there are hundreds if not thousands of little mental and emotional programs that have been instilled in the general populace over the last 80 years or more to ensure that they are less able to face and recognize these truths. WINGtv, in this case, is pushing against those little programs and it looks like they're really ruffled a few zionist feathers - or the literal garbage presented by RBN would have never been presented. Says volumes about RBN as well - shame, really.

--added later ---

You know, the more I'm thinking about it, the more I think that, perhaps, focusing less on this individual's last name and focusing more on what he said and how he said it - the evidence that he is discounting versus the evidence he is 'creating' or promoting might have been a way to present the WINGtv show in a way that would bypass the 'racist' triggers within people.
Due to the mass programming over the last century (or more), it really is occasionally necessary to present information in such a way that the emotional triggers instilled in people are initially bypassed - so their intellect has a chance to access the information without their emotions saying, "nope - stop - nothing of value here becaue it's anti-semetic'. I'm not saying never bring it up; I'm just saying that in this case, a little less focus on the person's last name may have helped those people still deeply programmed access the real information.

I could be wrong, of course - just some thoughts.

 

[Renaissance]

You know, the more I'm thinking about it, the more I think that, perhaps, focusing less on this individual's last name and focusing more on what he said and how he said it - the evidence that he is discounting versus the evidence he is 'creating' or promoting might have been a way to present the WINGtv show in a way that would bypass the 'racist' triggers within people.
Due to the mass programming over the last century (or more), it really is occasionally necessary to present information in such a way that the emotional triggers instilled in people are initially bypassed - so their intellect has a chance to access the information without their emotions saying, "nope - stop - nothing of value here becaue it's anti-semetic'. I'm not saying never bring it up; I'm just saying that in this case, a little less focus on the person's last name may have helped those people still deeply programmed access the real information.

This is largely what I was thinking when I was listening to Lisa's and Thorn's Wednesday show. In fact, this 'D.L. Abrahamson' seems soo transparent and fake that it sends off some warning bells, and then to top it off having the host have Jewish last name makes it seem like the possibility exists that this whole shabang could be a setup. What if it came out that he wasn't even Jewish and the was just a made up radio handle? Thorn brought up the Jewish concern a number of times, and this can easily be distorted by the PTB to the unwitting public who do not understand the real zionist history (or even current day zionist activities). So I agree with Anart - It could produce more fruit to focus on the material and his means of communication, (at least until any firm Zionist connections could be made).