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[stefan]

hi

i am new on this forum.

coincidently i came on the forum. and i found some interesting things.

i have a thing on my mind.

half a year ago i had a strong feeling i needed to go to Romania.
i went, and made a biketrip through Romania for two months.
during my trip i somehow came to believe or i told myself Romania is the new Zion for the future.

i came to love the people and the virginity of mother nature. my trip became more and more a spiritual trip a pilgrimage in search for the Divine Mother, which i consider to be the earth itself.

i came in contact with orthodox priests, in a monastery on top of a mountain. i had some talks with these people on their religion. sometimes very intellectual but it didn't bring me anywhere. in myself i found more and more the urge to gain more knowledge about christ and what it means to follow christs' path.

i always sought spirituality in eastern philosophies from very young age i got interest in yoga. i was raised catholic but i hated to be in that church. and i refused to take anything from that religion.

anyway, on my trip i also met some young yogi's whom i told my ideas about Romania. Like Romania being (in the Western World) still a place where the earth is untouched and many people are still unspoiled but very hostile especially the poor. And that i felt it like it is the country where the Godess, the Divine Mother can get again its true place. Where male and female energies will be balanced in the near future... These yogi's told me it wasn't strange to think all of that. They told me about Saddhu Sundar Singh... who had written some prophecies about Romania some 100 years ago. He was a Sikh who turned to christianity after a vision he had about Christ. And he became a true follower of christ.

Later on back home, i started reading Singhs' prophecies... and i found some correlation to my own feelings, visions, thoughts.

It is interesting but also confusing.

Ever since Romania is always in my mind, not as an obsession,...



I wonder if people on this forum ever heard about stories on Romania becoming a spiritual center for the future.



greathings


stefan

 

[domi]

hi

i am new on this forum.

Hi Stefan

half a year ago i had a strong feeling i needed to go to Romania.
i went, and made a biketrip through Romania for two months.
during my trip i somehow came to believe or i told myself Romania is the new Zion for the future.

Here we are trying to strip ourselves of beliefs to get to the objective thruth (which requires Work) through networking.
It is considered the 4th Way: http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=1
The three other ways are:

Within the 4th Way teaching, the term 4th Way is a path of spiritual development set apart from the 3 traditional ways, these being the Way of the Fakir, emphasizing the mastery of the physical body, the Way of the Monk, emphasizing mastery of emotions, and the Way of the Yogi, which emphasizes discipline of the mind.

I wonder if people on this forum ever heard about stories on Romania becoming a spiritual center for the future.

No, but perhaps in a possible future that is is that case. We are hypothesizing that there are hyperdimensional realities.

Dominique.

 

[veille]

To answer your question Stefan,

Rudolf Steiner did talk about Russia and Eastern Europe being a Grail center in the age of Aquarius (Church of Philadelphia), which will begin in 3573 approx. According to him, that is why bolchevism destroyed Russia and Eastern Europe: to destroy the ground-receptacle of the people of Christ (Russians). Bolchevism was made to destroy Russian culture, in order to make them fail their future Grail mission. It was planned by secret brotherhoods of the West. Bolchevism was an experiment of brotherhood of the West and Lenin was himself inspired by so-called Eastern mahatmas messengers (he received letters from them, telling him he was meant to establish 'Communism'). Prokofieff (director of the Anthroposophical society) wrote a big book about the spiritual mission of Eastern Europe, called The spiritual Origin of Estern Europe and the Future Mysteries of the Holy Grail.

Peter Deunov is the best spiritual master Eatern Europe ever had. Einstein and Krishnamurti bowed down before him (figuratively speaking of course). I suggest you take a look at his spirituality of the Grail, Sons of Light, and all (Deunov and Steiner). the Deunov group consider Steiner as one of them (but it is not the case for anthroposophists, who, sadly, do not talk about Deunov). O.M.Aivanhov is representative of a lower kind of this Eastern Europe spirituality, I suggest you to avoid it.

i have a friend who recently travelled to Bulgaria and Hungary, his name is Eric Tardif. He visited Bogomil (Cathars-like) churches and castles. They were Eastern European gnostics and manicheans. You must learn more about them if you are in any way interested in Eatern Europe mysticism!

Best,

Veille

 

[anart]

Peter Deunov is the best spiritual master Eatern Europe ever had.

Apologies for the interruption, but in the interest of the 'signal to noise' ration, I'm wondering what data you have to back this up? Just curious because you write as if these things are proven facts when they appear to simply be your 'opinion'.

 

[veille]

Peter Deunov is the best spiritual master Eatern Europe ever had (I should have added this precision : 'the best spiritual maser of Eastern Europe... in the twentieth century'!). Scythianos was also linked to Goth people and Eatern Europe in the past, but I don't think Deunov and Scythianos are the same individuality.

On Deunov site you will find that Einstein Quote and Krishnamurti quote.
CITATION(http://www.peterdeunov.org/)
" Le monde s'incline devant moi, mais moi je m'incline devant le Maitre Peter Deunov de Bulgarie " (The world bows down before me, but I bow down before Master Peter Deunov of Bulgaria) Albert Einstein
" Peter Deunov est le plus grand philosophe vivant sur terre " (Peter Deunov is the greatest philosopher living on earth) Pape Jean XXIII
" Je leur ai dit que je n'etais pas Maitreya... Le Maitre mondial était deja incarne, en Bulgarie " (I told them I am not Maitreya, the World Master is already incarnate, in Bulgaria) Krisnamurti
(These are my own translations. Sorry if you don't read French. You are certainly capable to look by yourself to find an better English translation.)

I don't quote all the time because it is a dull intellectual method that doesn't prove anything. One can experience the truth of something but we cannot 'prove' anything by quoting. But for sure, if say that Einstein or Krishnamurti said that, one must check by himself if it is true. Don't belive me, make your own research...

By the way, if somebody (administrator) can do something about this forum not taking French letters like : for example in 'deja vu' (I cannot put th right letters with their accent because the site won't take it), in French takes accents that your site cannot handle. This is not helping communication because I often have to quote in French!

Bye,

Veille

 

[anart]

You can certainly find betteer translations by your elves.

Hmmmmm - who told you about my elves????? ;) I try very hard to keep them secret.

one must check by himself if it is true. Don't belive me, make your own research...

This is very true, of course, but this doesn't change the fact that you are stating your opinion, which has been influenced by the opinion of others - not a fact. This is one of those issues that would be rather difficult to prove either way, so I'm simply pointing out that clarity of thought and expression is important and I'll leave it at that to not distract anymore from the question posed at the start of the thread.

 

[veille]

Sorry for the repetition above, it is because your system can't take French phrases containing french letters with accent marks. The forum system made me change things yet I didn't know the text was really sent, so I took away French quotes in the second message. This is a REAL problem in this forum for French speaking people who have to quote in French! [moderator's note - the repetitions were removed and the error message causing multiple postings occurs without the use of French letters or accents as well - it is being worked on]

Veille

 

[ark]

Bolchevism was made to destroy Russian culture, in order to make them fail their future Grail mission.

You certainly did not read the Controversy of Zion. Otherwise you would know WHO was behind "Bolchevism".

 

[veille]

No I didn't read it, I thougt it was too long and sometime it's good to get another point of view to confirm and cross-reference.
I agree that bolchevism wasn't self-directed... I said bolchevism was an experiment of secret brotherhoods of the West, which implies also zionists (which we cannot say they are from the middle east, being so much in sync with masons and the anglo-american establisment...) and behind the anglo-american establishment are zionists, right? or was it Illuminati using zionists?

Best,

Veille

 

[arkmod]

No I didn't read it, I thougt it was too long and sometime it's good to get another point of view to confirm and cross-reference.

It is not good at all to have another point of view if this other point of view is based on ignorance of facts. Facts should at the base of viewpoints, but viewpoints should not replace knowldge based on facts.

 

[Mark]

No I didn't read it, I thougt it was too long and sometime it's good to get another point of view to confirm and cross-reference.
I agree that bolchevism wasn't self-directed... I said bolchevism was an experiment of secret brotherhoods of the West, which implies also zionists (which we cannot say they are from the middle east, being so much in sync with masons and the anglo-american establisment...) and behind the anglo-american establishment are zionists, right? or was it Illuminati using zionists?

Best,

Veille

You're contradicting yourself by saying it's too long yet you think it's good to get another point of view to confirm and cross-reference. What you meant to say apparently was that it's good to get another point of view as long as it can be encapsulated in only a few brief sentences. Hopefully you read all of my message to you here...