Russia to move away from Apple , iOS

Shared Joy

Shared Joy

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It seems that the Russians are becoming more and more independent and inventive. Indeed being pushed to find new solutions, literally gave them wings to soar.

_http://www.hotapplenews.com/article/russia-to-move-away-from-android-ios-22406723-2a08c5.html

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Russian Minister of Communications Nikolai Nikiforo has announced plans to replace Apple's iOS and Google's Android platforms with new software based on Sailfish, an open-source mobile operating system developed by Finnish phone maker Jolla. Nikiforov wants to develop a domestic platform that is less susceptible to mass surveillance, Engadget reported. Though Sailfish technically comes from another country, its open source nature would allow for customised software.

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.......and China as well!

_http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/huawei-to-move-away-from-android-working-on-kirin-os-report-267557.html

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Chinese smartphone maker Huawei has plans to move away from Google’s Android operating system and venture into one of its own. The company is reportedly working on an homegrown-OS dubbed Kirin. This move could be an attempt to reduce dependence on Android. This move is rather interesting as Google has chosen Huawei as the next smartphone maker for its Nexus devices.
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FWIW, Joy
 
Good move. iOS is a really first candidate to throw away because of its restrictive policy towards end user. Android still has its sources open and anyone can make an OS based on it keeping all the Android apps working. CyanogenMod is a good example. Thinking of privacy I wouldn't buy a device with any government funded OS without full access to its sources. Best phone is Nokia 3310. :)
 
From what I can see no one is dependent on Android, because it's open source, meaning anyone can take the code and do what they want with it. So for example if Huawei is making their own OS then possibly what they want is a way to reduce end user dependence on the Android marketplace ( Google Play store for apps ). [ For what's it's worth, I've had a Huawei phone, turned out to be not so tough compared to better hardware from Samsung -- same goes for ZTE phones, not worth the bux ]

Conversely, the Russian strategy is to use the SailFish OS, which is based in part on Android to the point that it can run Android apps - smart move in my perspective, why reinvent a gigantic complex widely used wheel when it works pretty good, far better than iOS ?
 
The concept of open source could be utilized in all sorts of technology. I hear stories of people who develop all kinds of technologies that can benefit mankind who meet with ill fates. Perhaps it would be better to freely publish one's findings instead of soliciting an appearance on Shark Tank.
 
I'll say that these are good news, about time!

m said:
From what I can see no one is dependent on Android, because it's open source, meaning anyone can take the code and do what they want with it. So for example if Huawei is making their own OS then possibly what they want is a way to reduce end user dependence on the Android marketplace ( Google Play store for apps ). [ For what's it's worth, I've had a Huawei phone, turned out to be not so tough compared to better hardware from Samsung -- same goes for ZTE phones, not worth the bux ]

Conversely, the Russian strategy is to use the SailFish OS, which is based in part on Android to the point that it can run Android apps - smart move in my perspective, why reinvent a gigantic complex widely used wheel when it works pretty good, far better than iOS ?
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Not to mention that their chip will / is capable of running x86 (Win and Linux), so multipolarity takes on the tech sphere!
 
Doesn't seem to be a lot of Apple love here!

I guess from my perspective Apple has good reason for their policies; it makes their stuff harder to hack into, and it's pretty rare (not never, just rare) that malware makes it to the App Store, quite unlike Google Play.

As a security professional, I have no love of Android. It's swiss cheese, no matter the flavour (Sailfish, Cyanogen etc). Is IOS perfect? Not at all, but Apple has put in a better effort to secure it than any other company has into their products (in this market, anyways).

Just my two bits.
 
Lost Spirit said:
Doesn't seem to be a lot of Apple love here!

I guess from my perspective Apple has good reason for their policies; it makes their stuff harder to hack into, and it's pretty rare (not never, just rare) that malware makes it to the App Store, quite unlike Google Play.

As a security professional, I have no love of Android. It's swiss cheese, no matter the flavour (Sailfish, Cyanogen etc). Is IOS perfect? Not at all, but Apple has put in a better effort to secure it than any other company has into their products (in this market, anyways).

Just my two bits.
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I was contracted by Kelly Services to work as a phone service tech for Apple, I worked for them for 9 months. We were taught to lie in a very convincing manner. Apple contracted Kelly Services to provide cheap labor, people willing to work with no benefits, no health care, and low wages.
 
Lost Spirit said:
Doesn't seem to be a lot of Apple love here!

I guess from my perspective Apple has good reason for their policies; it makes their stuff harder to hack into, and it's pretty rare (not never, just rare) that malware makes it to the App Store, quite unlike Google Play.

As a security professional, I have no love of Android. It's swiss cheese, no matter the flavour (Sailfish, Cyanogen etc). Is IOS perfect? Not at all, but Apple has put in a better effort to secure it than any other company has into their products (in this market, anyways).

Just my two bits.
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No operating system vendor ( to date ) has any vested interested in making the most secure OS possible, not even when they have nearly an endless supply of money to hire the smartest brains on the planet to get it done ( as do Apple and MS ). Because it's cheaper and more profitable to pay for public relations damage control, and that route leaves them the avenue of nefarious cooperation with various agencies while maintaining a pile of plausible deniability. Simple as that.

Added: Google develops Android at their own expense, and sets it loose for anybody to use as they see fit. The good part about that is that it's open source so anyone can examine and/or modify it; the bad part about that is mobile network operators do exactly that. One vendor's Android is different inside than another vendor's. So in a general sense, Android is a somewhat generic term for a group of operating systems with very similar base characteristics.

Getting back to the plan of some Russians to build Sailfish into a viable mobile OS, I hope that goes great for them :)
 
Lost Spirit said:
Doesn't seem to be a lot of Apple love here!

I guess from my perspective Apple has good reason for their policies; it makes their stuff harder to hack into, and it's pretty rare (not never, just rare) that malware makes it to the App Store, quite unlike Google Play.

As a security professional, I have no love of Android. It's swiss cheese, no matter the flavour (Sailfish, Cyanogen etc). Is IOS perfect? Not at all, but Apple has put in a better effort to secure it than any other company has into their products (in this market, anyways).

Just my two bits.
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I was surprised to learn, most phones have a FM receiver but Apple blocks it in the American Market.

http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/4183

Most smartphones in the market today, Iphone, Samsungs and such, they DO have FM receivers. The problem is that these are blocked for most phones intended for the American market. In the rest of the world, this function is not blocked, therefore an “American” Samsung Note will not have a working FM receiver while an “International” model will.

Why would anyone do such a thing, you may ask? Well, as always follow the money. Service providers don’t want you using a radio when they can force you to stream radio through the internet using their data services. Also, Apple profits greatly from selling music in itunes. They would lose millions if people decided to listen to radio a bit more for free rather than paying for each song they listen.

Not all smartphones in America have the FM receiver blocked. HTC and Motorola are among such companies.
 
I use an iPhone because it works with my car audio. I would venture to say that whatever OS you use, it's the huge focus on mind-numbing technology that still unnerves me. I find my brain after years of being whacked on tech a little too insensitive to the real world and real rewards. A severe imbalance of neurochemicals -- dopamine especially, is the result.

The populace is highly attracted to these things, upon seeing the Russian side of things, I venture to say that it's just a continuation of the same thing in a slightly different form. No doubt leaving the American dominated OS market can be a good thing in some respects. If the technology is used for good, for spreading truth and countering lies and propaganda -- the way RT and of course, we are doing here, then it may be an investment and health risk that ultimately pays off in the end. Only time will tell.

I know this is off-topic slightly but just had to put my two cents in.
 
Mark said:
The concept of open source could be utilized in all sorts of technology. I hear stories of people who develop all kinds of technologies that can benefit mankind who meet with ill fates. Perhaps it would be better to freely publish one's findings instead of soliciting an appearance on Shark Tank.
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I say even more: The concept of open source could be utilized in all sorts of human labour. It could be a social model by itself.
 
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