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http://news.yahoo(dot)com/s/nm/20061229/ts_nm/iraq_dc_39

I believe it is likely, as I have come to know and understand through the SOTT's work, that the double is soon to take a fall for Saddam. What is strange is having an innocent man die for Saddam when the United States put him in office, gave him WMD's.. Here is a nice tune and historic flash video a friend did.

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

Edit: It's official, I cannot spell oficcial.
 
Well, according to Yahoo news - Saddam's double has been executed -

msm said:
BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Saddam Hussein, the shotgun-waving dictator who ruled
Iraq with a remorseless brutality for a quarter-century and was driven from power by a U.S.-led war that left his country in shambles, was taken to the gallows and executed Saturday, Iraqi state-run television reported.


It was a grim end for the 69-year-old leader who had vexed three U.S. presidents. Despite his ouster, Washington, its allies and the new Iraqi leaders remain mired in a fight to quell a stubborn insurgency by Saddam loyalists and a vicious sectarian conflict.

Also hanged were Saddam's half-brother Barzan Ibrahim and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the former chief justice of the Revolutionary Court. State-run Iraqiya television news announcer said "criminal Saddam was hanged to death and the execution started with criminal Saddam then Barzan then Awad al-Bandar." <snip>
One wonders if this will provide an excuse for an escalation in 'sectarian violence' (read US/British backed death and terror squads) - thus providing an excuse for the increase in troops that the war chimp has been asking for - what a shock that the timing works so well for little Georgie's speech on Iraq after the New Year - god, such a ghastly, blood drenched theatre.

(this is my post number 1333 - how oddly fitting -- -- =( )
 
In all I wonder if this will be enough. So far as the history books are perpetrated upon US.. will this be BuSh's legacy, or is he still salivating for more? Maybe a better question would be if "they" are done with their *.mongering. I'm guessing it is going to be more of the usual. It's a bummer and I feel sad for the fate of the look alike or what have you.

Is this just another cover-up in the long line of forgotten past issues? I cannot imagine how Cheney got past shooting a man in the face, forgiven by the victim or not, anyone-Anyone else would be doing time. I could post a list of the treasons by the goon squad but it's not relevent. I wonder if a record should not be put together though. Probably take alot of server space.
 
http://news(dot)bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218485.stm

Saddam Hussein executed in Iraq

Saddam Hussein on the gallows in a frame form al-Iraqiya TV
In a last act of defiance Saddam Hussein refused to wear a hood

Iraqi TV images
Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has been executed by hanging at a secure facility in northern Baghdad for crimes against humanity.

Iraqi TV said the execution took place just before 0600 local time (0300GMT). A representative of the prime minister and a Sunni Muslim cleric were present.

Footage of him being led to the gallows was later shown on Iraqi state TV.

Two co-defendants, Saddam Hussein's half-brother and a former chief judge, are to be executed at a later date.

All three were sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November after a year-long trial over the 1982 killings of 148 Shias in the town of Dujail.

A small group of Iraqis witnessed the execution inside a building at an Iraqi compound known by the Americans as Camp Justice, a secure facility in the northern Baghdad suburb of Khadimeya.

We took him to the gallows and he was saying some few slogans. He was very, very, very, broken
Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie

They watched as a judge read out the sentence to Saddam Hussein. The former Iraqi leader was carrying a copy of the Koran and asked for it to be given to a friend.

Footage broadcast later on Iraqi state TV showed a subdued Saddam Hussein being led to gallows by a group of masked men.

He was dressed in a white shirt and dark overcoat, rather than prison garb.

Saddam Hussein was led up onto the gallows platform and a dark piece of cloth placed around his neck, followed by the noose.

Saddam Hussein's rule

In pictures

When the hangman stepped forward to put the hood over his head, Saddam Hussein made it clear he wanted to die without it.

The hanging itself was not broadcast.

The execution procedure took just a few minutes.

Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie, who witnessed the execution, told the BBC that the former leader went to the gallows quietly:

"We took him to the gallows and he was saying some few slogans. He was very, very, very, broken."

In other developments:

* US troops and Iraqi security forces are put on high alert and security is increased at US embassies around the world

* A bomb explodes in a market place in the mainly Shia city of Kufa, in southern Iraq, killing at least 17 people and injuring 25

* The US military says that a US soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in Baghdad on Friday and three marines died from wounds suffered in combat in Iraq's western Anbar province

'End of a dark period'

News of Saddam Hussein's execution was broadcast on state-run Iraqiya television, as patriotic music and images of national monuments were played out.

It is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself
US President George W Bush

It initially said Saddam Hussein was hanged first, followed by Barzan and then Bandar. However, Iraqi national security adviser, Mouwafak al-Rubaie, later said only Saddam Hussein was hanged.

"We wanted him to be executed on a special day," Mr al-Rubaie told Iraqiya, adding that Saddam Hussein "totally surrendered" and did not resist.

Saddam Hussein's half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti and Iraq's former chief judge Awad Hamed al-Bandar are to be executed some time after the Eid festival ends next week, he said.

Other Arab TV stations aired live footage of the sunrise over Baghdad's Firdous Square, where US Marines pulled down a statue of Saddam Hussein, after he was deposed in April 2003.

There were jubilant scenes in the Baghdad Shia stronghold of Sadr City, with people dancing in the streets and sounding their car horns.

The BBC's Peter Greste in Baghdad says Shias have generally welcomed Saddam Hussein's death and hailed the execution as justice for the suffering endured under his leadership.

But Saddam's own Sunni tribesman were angered by his treatment and may well protest once more, our correspondent adds.

'Held to account'

US President George W Bush hailed the execution as "an important milestone" on the road to building an Iraqi democracy, but warned it would not end the deadly violence there.

I feel saddened by the death of Saddam, not because he deserved to live but because it is taking place under US occupation of Iraq
Nafeesa Zafar, Pakistan

Saddam death: Your reaction

He said: "It is a testament to the Iraqi people's resolve to move forward after decades of oppression that, despite his terrible crimes against his own people, Saddam Hussein received a fair trial.

"It is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself, and be an ally in the War on Terror."

UK Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett welcomed the fact that Saddam Hussein had been tried by an Iraqi court "for at least some of the appalling crimes he committed" and said "he has now been held to account".

France called on Iraqis to "look towards the future and work towards reconciliation and national unity".
 
i just dont belive the story is true. for one when we die our eyes stay open so unless they closed his eyes for him and glued them shut. that is a sign that the person on the gurney was not dead. now i admit i may be wrong about the eyes but it is my understanding that the eyes cant close when we die and that the mortition glues the eyes shut and the mouth is sowed shut. another thing is the blood on the sheet. its possable that the rope cut his neck or caused a nose bleed.
iv never seen a hanging so i have no idea of the factual results from it but i just have this nagging feeling in my gut that he is not dead and even if the person whom they hung is really dead i have a gut feeling it was not who they say it was. i just cant see tyrants hanging one of there own friends who made millions of dollars for them and im not talking about the iraq government im talking about the texas family. it would be like there grandfather killing hitler it would make no sence at all to cut off your money supply or cut off a puppet that can be used again. facelifts are a common thing anymore and sadam had a lot of conections and is the commander of a large following of ruthless people that would most likely only follow his comands. sorry its just a deep gut feeling i have and most of the time during my life my gut has been right. but who knows maybe its wrong this time. take a look at the person who was blamed for the towers masacure the same gut feeling came and said he dident do it. this whole thing stinks of a coverup and low and behold a coverup and are we even looking for the person they say did it? no. and is it a top priority? no. he is usefull for something they have planed and his people who follow him will only be loyal to him or to whom he puts in command. ok well iv said my thoughts. and please dont rag on my lack of spelling i was raised on the streets so spelling was on a the bottom of my list. i am teaching myself so in time ill be better. and of the words i have gotten right at this time would have been wrong just a few years ago. so be patent.
 
It really doesn't even matter if it was the real Saddam, a fake Saddam, a real hanging, or a fake hanging. What matters is that this "fact" has been propagated and will now become the mask for a new false flag operation. How about a couple of mini-nukes in the U.S. that will then be blamed on the supporters of Saddam - or Moslems with vengeance in their hearts in general - and used as an excuse to slam the door shut on the U.S., U.K., and wherever else there were members of the "coalition of the bought and paid for"?

After all, if Bush and gang know that their pillaging and fleecing of the American people can no longer be covered up, that the economic crash is set to happen like right away, how better to cover that up with some real, dire, national emergencies? Who cares if the stock market crashes or interest rates go up if there are terrorists around every corner?

Heck, the domino effect from this one act could lead us right into all elections in the U.S. being terminated, martial law, curfews, picking up ALL dissidents; you just can't tell, but it could be the beginning of the end.

I have a really bad feeling about this.
 
Regardless of whether it was Saddam or if anyone was actually executed, I can't help thinking of the parallel to another event. I wouldn't compare Saddam to Jesus, of course, but, it seems that the local Jews simply used the occupying Romans to execute Jesus, probably for propagandistic purposes of appearance (people still argue about who actually killed Jesus because of this). Now, we have the occupying Americans using the local Iraqis to execute Saddam, obviously for propagandistic purposes of appearance. In fact, a big deal was made of the fact that it had to be the Iraqis who carried out the killing, so Bush can forever say "it wasn't me." Just sickening.
 
Yeah. It's a very bad precedent all the way around. George and gang should shy away from doing unto others what they wouldn't want done to themselves... after all, they ARE War Criminals and are committing genocide too.
 
The rushed timing of it is weird and didn't make sense to me, this is a holiday weekend, after all. Why not wait until closer to the State of the Union Address?

Then I read that the official tally of U.S. military dead in Iraq reached 2998. Now it makes sense. They will hit 3000 sometime today or tomorrow (six casualties were announced yesterday) and that will be bad publicity for Bush and co.
 
What's worse, Dec 29 was a beginning of Hajj, a very important holiday in Islam. There was a talk that the execution will be postponed until after thats holiday, but no, they had to do it now. Adding insult to the injury.
 
The speed with which they did it suggests a schedule is driving them. And a schedule suggests "more in store."
 
DonaldJHunt said:
The rushed timing of it is weird and didn't make sense to me, this is a holiday weekend, after all. Why not wait until closer to the State of the Union Address?

Then I read that the official tally of U.S. military dead in Iraq reached 2998. Now it makes sense. They will hit 3000 sometime today or tomorrow (six casualties were announced yesterday) and that will be bad publicity for Bush and co.
Perhaps the reason he was executed with such undignified haste was because of the Iraqi side, rather than the American side. Afterall, who better to know that this "Saddam" isn't the real one, than the Iraqis, or those who had a lot to do with him or knew him well? Yes, you'd think the people involved in this farce would know it was a farce. Those running this regime must be getting sick and tired of knocking off people associated with the trial who work out the truth and then plan on doing something about it. How many people, so far, associated with "Saddams" trial have been killed. They must have thought they were going to run out of people to take part.

Also, it appears the Iraqi regime is about to embark on a legal execution spree, starting with "Saddam".
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4503
The appeals court decision must be ratified by President Jalal Talabani and Iraq's two vice-presidents. Mr Talabani opposes the death penalty but has in the past deputed a vice-president to sign an execution order on his behalf - a substitute that was legally accepted.

Raed Juhi, a spokesman for the court that convicted Saddam, said the judicial system would ensure he was executed even if Mr Talabani and the two vice-presidents did not ratify the decision. "We"ll implement the verdict by the power of the law," he said without elaborating.

In yesterday's ruling the court also rejected appeals by Saddam's half-brother, Barzan al-Tikriti, and a former judge, Awad al-Bander, both of whom were sentenced to death over the Dujail killings.

It rejected the life sentence on the former vice-president Taha Yassin Ramadan, recommending execution instead.
I would be intersted to know if the correct 'proceedure' was followed by the judicial system for "Saddam's" execution. Did they get the required 'authorisations' or did they completely disregard correct protocol?

It just seemsed unlikely to me that the speed of "Saddam's" execution was done to maximise American propaganda like you would expect, but done for another reason. Perhaps they were running out of time and people who weren't going to reveal the truth....
 
U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 3,000
http://www(dot)iht(dot)com/articles/ap/2006/12/31/america/NA_GEN_US_Iraq_American_Deaths.php
WASHINGTON: American deaths in the Iraq war reached the sobering milestone of 3,000 on Sunday even as the Bush administration sought to overhaul its strategy for an unpopular conflict that shows little sign of abating.

The latest death came during one of the most violent periods during which the Pentagon says hate and revenge killings between Iraq's sects are now a bigger security problem than ever.

The death of a Texas soldier, announced Sunday by the Pentagon, raised the number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq to at least 3,000, according to an Associated Press count, since the war began in March 2003.

President George W. Bush is struggling to salvage a military campaign that, more than three-and-a-half years after U.S. forces overran the country, has scant support from the American public. In large part because of that discontent, voters gave Democrats control of the new Congress that convenes this week. Democrats have pledged to focus on the war and Bush's conduct of it.

Three thousand deaths are tiny compared with casualties in other protracted wars America has fought in the last century. There were 58,000 Americans killed in the Vietnam War, 36,000 in the Korean conflict, 405,000 in World War II and 116,000 in World War I, according to Defense Department figures.

Even so, the steadily mounting toll underscores the relentless violence that the massive U.S. investment in lives and money — surpassing $350 billion (€266 billion) — has yet to tame, and may in fact still be getting worse.

A Pentagon report on Iraq said in December that the conflict now is more a struggle between Sunni and Shiite armed groups "fighting for religious, political and economic influence," with the insurgency and foreign terrorist campaigns "a backdrop."

From mid-August to mid-November, the weekly average number of attacks in the country increased 22 percent from the previous three months. The worst violence was in Baghdad and in the western province of Anbar, long the focus of activity by Sunni insurgents, said a December report.

Though U.S.-led coalition forces remained the target of the majority of attacks, the overwhelming majority of casualties were suffered by Iraqis, the report said.

The American death toll was at 1,000 in September of 2004 and 2,000 by October 2005.

Bush told an end-of-the-year press conference that the deaths distress him.

"The most painful aspect of the presidency is the fact that I know my decisions have caused young men and women to lose their lives," Bush said.

Asked about the 3,000 figure, deputy White House press secretary Scott Stanzel said Sunday that the president "will ensure their sacrifice was not made in vain."

"We will be fighting violent jihadists for peace and security of the civilized world for years to come. The brave men and women of the U.S. military are fighting extremists in order to stop them from attacking on our soil again," Stanzel said.

In a statement Bush released Sunday to wish the troops and all Americans a happy new year, he said the United States depends on the men and women in the armed services and are mindful of their dedication and sacrifice.


"Last year, America continued its mission to fight and win the war on terror and promote liberty as an alternative to tyranny and despair," Bush said in the statement released from his ranch in Crawford, Texas, where he and first lady Laura Bush are spending New Year's Eve with friends.

"In the New Year, we will remain on the offensive against the enemies of freedom, advance the security of our country, and work toward a free and unified Iraq," he said. "Defeating terrorists and extremists is the challenge of our time, and we will answer history's call with confidence and fight for liberty without wavering."

In an interview on Dec. 21 with The Associated Press, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the war was "worth the investment" in American lives and dollars.

In his strategy reassessment, Bush has consulted Iraqis, his uniformed and civilian advisers, an outside bipartisan panel that studied the failing war, and other defense and foreign policy experts. New Defense Secretary Robert Gates journeyed to Iraq in his first week on the job in December to confer with American commanders and Iraqi leaders.

Among the president's options was a proposal to quickly add thousands of U.S. troops to the 140,000 already in Iraq to try to control escalating violence in Baghdad and elsewhere.

Others believe too much blood and money already have been sacrificed. Democrats have wanted Bush to move toward a phased drawdown of forces, while the bipartisan Iraq Study Group recommended removing most U.S. combat forces by early 2008 while shifting the U.S. role to advising and supporting Iraqi units.

Having launched the war against the advice of a number of nations, the Bush administration never got a huge international contribution of troops, meaning foreign forces helping the Iraqis are overwhelmingly American.

The death toll shows it. As of late December, the British military has reported 126 deaths in the war so far; Italy, 33; Ukraine, 18; Poland, 18; Bulgaria, 13; Spain, 11; and Denmark, six. Several other countries have had five or less.
 
sHiZo963 said:
Asked about the 3,000 figure, deputy White House press secretary Scott Stanzel said Sunday that the president "will ensure their sacrifice was not made in vain."

"We will be fighting violent jihadists for peace and security of the civilized world for years to come. The brave men and women of the U.S. military are fighting extremists in order to stop them from attacking on our soil again," Stanzel said.

In a statement Bush released Sunday to wish the troops and all Americans a happy new year, he said the United States depends on the men and women in the armed services and are mindful of their dedication and sacrifice.
Oh plllleeeaassse. I am so frakking sick of the insincerity of these guys I want to just scream. How many people really buy into Bush and his puppetmasters really caring a hoot about all of these men and women dying....anywhere?

And he will "ensure that their sacrifice was not made in vain". Yeah, I bet! How, by making sure more brave men and women meet their deaths?

Gaaahhh. I need to go stick my head in the toilet.
 
Lynne said:
How many people really buy into Bush and his puppetmasters really caring a hoot about all of these men and women dying....anywhere?
In an interview on Dec. 21 with The Associated Press, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the war was "worth the investment" in American lives and dollars.
It makes me equally sick (and not just because it is the morning after New Year's Eve ;)). Apparently, and not surprisingly, they are referring to everything in terms of "investment": the people, especially those truly under direct control of the PTB, are nothing more but slaves that are worth a certain "amount" of money.

It is despicable!

And to think, with all the "police state"-like policies coming online in the foreseeable future, all of US will be reduced to such "numbers," albeit even LOWER in value than those they give the guns to. Yeah, I'm getting a bit scared.
 
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