Security Camera Footage of an Alien Abduction?

[Bo]

I got this link from an friend and it's looks interesting, a security camera seems to have captured a real abduction? or just a bad hoax?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeOUzKRzLY

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This video featured on the TV program 'Paranormal Borderline' hosted by Johnathan Frakes and appears to show what some people are claiming to be "proof of alien abduction".

It is a security video from what appears to be a store. The time is 11.16pm and a worker is seemingly closing up the place for the night. However, when he opens the back gate and walks outside there is an instant, blinding flash right where he is standing and then all of the security cameras are temporarily knocked out, soon resuming their function. They then run for another 1 hour 50 minutes until 1.06am when there is another blinding white flash and all the cameras again get knocked out. When they resume function the aforementioned worker can be seen lying in a foetal position nearby to where he disappeared. He then leans up, vomits, then staggers off disorientated.

There is no way of knowing for sure what is happening in this video, however, the possibility that it could be an abduction cannot be ruled out. There is a possibility that the man may have accidentally wandered into a downed powerline and knocked himself unconscious. Maybe it could be an elaborate hoax?

What is your opinion?

one of the youtube comments was also interesting,

goldeneye64701 (3 weeks ago):
Is it just me or do the two researchers seem very enthusiastic about the tape? Did they even read the letter that came with it? According to Jonathan Frakes, the author of the letter expects to be paid for the tape. To me that would throw up a huge red flag that the tape is a possible fake, or the tape is genuine, and the author of the letter is just looking to cash in. It would be interesting to see what has become of this lately.

 

[Zadius Sky]

It is very interesting video, but goldeneye in the comment did have a point.

I also noticed that the worker left the backgate open when walking out. Don't you supposed to close the gate when 'locking up?' In my opinion, there is a way to make a hoax out of this: have someone in the control room, mess with the tape, and have someone else outside with car's high beam lights pointing at the worker, and there you have it. It takes a good timing to do it, but not so hard with a group effort.

I think it may be a hoax, but just my vote. If it is genuine and the aliens did 'abducted' the worker, I think the aliens did a sloppy job at that. Don't they use 'zero time' during abductions?

osit.

 

[Bo]

It is very interesting video, but goldeneye in the comment did have a point.

I also noticed that the worker left the backgate open when walking out. Don't you supposed to close the gate when 'locking up?' In my opinion, there is a way to make a hoax out of this: have someone in the control room, mess with the tape, and have someone else outside with car's high beam lights pointing at the worker, and there you have it. It takes a good timing to do it, but not so hard with a group effort.

I think it may be a hoax, but just my vote. If it is genuine and the aliens did 'abducted' the worker, I think the aliens did a sloppy job at that. Don't they use 'zero time' during abductions?

osit.

good point, but I was thinking about this zero time, and I made a drawing in paint to explain something what is on my mind about zero time

The car wants to go from A to C, and gets abducted at B, lets assume the patient would have some memory loss of a couple of hours after arriving at point C.

now if we would put a Camera at (point C) and the abduction would happen, don't you think it would be visible on the camera? I mean the abduction takes places in a 3rd density environment , which means that they become 3d as well temporally to abduct someone so the abduction should theoretically be visible, or am I way off here?? correct me if I am.

 

[Zadius Sky]

now if we would put a Camera (point C) and the abduction would happen, don't you think it would be visible on the camera? I mean the abduction takes places in a 3rd density environment , which means that they become 3d as well temporally to abduct someone so they abduction should theoretically be visible, or am I way off here?? correct me if I am.

I vaguely recalled that the C's mentioned that the abductions take places on 3D, but takes the abductee to 4D and back again, or so I think. I do not have the transcripts at the moment. And, if they use 'zero time,' the camera would be temporary distorted or disabled...or it appears much like a small error in the video. imo.

 

[Bo]

now if we would put a Camera (point C) and the abduction would happen, don't you think it would be visible on the camera? I mean the abduction takes places in a 3rd density environment , which means that they become 3d as well temporally to abduct someone so they abduction should theoretically be visible, or am I way off here?? correct me if I am.

I vaguely recalled that the C's mentioned that the abductions take places on 3D, but takes the abductee to 4D and back again, or so I think. I do not have the transcripts at the moment. And, if they use 'zero time,' the camera would be temporary distorted or disabled...or it appears much like a small error in the video. imo.

hm.. I'm gonna see if I can find those transcripts and post it here tonight or tomorrow , and yes the camera getting distorted while someone gets abducted is very possible.

 

[dant]

Here is a thought....

Since a 'soul' is "inside" a body, what if 4D simply took the soul itself,
whilst the body is as is (does not go anywhere at all but proceeds as is)
meanwhile the soul is experiencing "zero time" and may see all "as is"
in 4D (possibly could live a "lifetime") and then be returned to 3D into
the body at the same time as it was taken?

This reminds me of "Star Trek, The Next Generation" whereas Picard
was "knocked out" by a beam from a spacecraft which was actually a
download of an "interactive program (a memory)" from the spacecraft
and Picard was living a "lifetime" in this programming whereas his body
lost only "a few minutes" in 3D time while his crew saw him knocked down
and then recovered. This was a fantastic episode, imo.

 

[ArdVan]

What intrigued me was, that with the flash of light all four camera pictures were affected. Even those inside the store. So you can say there was some electrical disturbance. But the time indication on the bottom right didn't happen to be influenced.

I didn't like the smooth overlapping fast forward for two hours. The cut after two hours looked almost like the disturbance after the light flash. I would expect a clear cut of undisturbed pictures of the four rooms.

If you toggle back and forth the time gap you see, that two cameras (top right and bottom left) did move a little. Why is that? There is supposedly nobody there and the camera pictures don't move.

And they talk about a second flash, but I can't see one... (ok this could be lost, because of the copy process and data reduction on youtube)

 

[Azur]

This video is a little bit maddening. It doesn't really show much footage AFTER the initial flash. And then it doesn't show any footage prior to the guy's re-appearance, where he is mostly occluded by the sign on the fence.

If we could see more before and after of both marked events, it would be better.

What if it was a lightning strike in the first instance, he staggers back, falls on the ground (behind the sign on fence relative to the camera) and then is awoken by another flash of lightning?

It's a possibility, but the second flash isn't as big and seems circular (which could be a camera artifact).

If you toggle back and forth the time gap you see, that two cameras (top right and bottom left) did move a little. Why is that? There is supposedly nobody there and the camera pictures don't move.

Good catch. They both seemed to have moved.

Also, I wonder if the volume of the vomit expulsed by the victim exceeds what can be held in one's mouth?

 

[Bo]

this is what I found on zero time and abduction, well it does make sense, if there is zero time...then it just happens instantly.

Q: (RS) Yes! I am interested in the propulsion systems of UFOs, the
only way that I can perceive traveling the long distances involved in
interstellar space is to
have what is called a "space/time" machine. We cannot move the
enormous distances unless you can fold, somehow, time and space.

You cannot fold space unless you join it and fold time. You cannot
have interstellar travel unless you have a space/time machine. But,
a space/time machine means to also have the ability to move
forward and backward in time, to manipulate time.
(L) Yes, you would have to cross distances and simultaneously
move backward through time so that you would end up arriving
wherever you are going essentially at the same moment that you
left. (RS) That is why I asked whether we can use anti-matter as a
propulsion, because it would be repulsive in the right direction. The
second question whether, when we use anti- matter, we would move
backward in time.
Because, some of those objects, you see them moving, and they
can be moving in space but not in time, or they could be moving in
time but not in space. If you
see a UFO, it does not mean that it is in our time. It could be in a
completely different time. (L) And, they disappear sometimes right
before the eyes of the
observer, and the question is: where do they go? (RS) They could
be standing still in space, but moving time. Or moving backwards.
(L) And, there are a lot of abductions reported where there is
seemingly no time lost at all. They come in, haul the victim out, do
whatever they do, and then they slide them back in a fraction of a
second away, if not at the identical second they took the victim out!
(RS) Yes! This article I presented is exactly about this point! If,

indeed, anti- particles have lift, then necessarily they have to go
backward in time. Then they manipulate this: you can have an
abduction any length of time inside the craft, but in our time, in our
level three, it is zero time!
(L) Yes, exactly! And not only that, there is the phenomenon of the
craft that looks small from the outside, but inside is huge! (RS) That
is all tied up in it! This is very exciting. I am learning the language. In
our third level, the motion in space and time occurs via the change
of the unit of time and space, therefore, can we change the unit?
A: Yes, this is precisely what we mean when we speak of "transiting
from 4th to 3rd."

Dant:

Here is a thought....

Since a 'soul' is "inside" a body, what if 4D simply took the soul itself,
whilst the body is as is (does not go anywhere at all but proceeds as is)
meanwhile the soul is experiencing "zero time" and may see all "as is"
in 4D (possibly could live a "lifetime") and then be returned to 3D into
the body at the same time as it was taken?

This reminds me of "Star Trek, The Next Generation" whereas Picard
was "knocked out" by a beam from a spacecraft which was actually a
download of an "interactive program (a memory)" from the spacecraft
and Picard was living a "lifetime" in this programming whereas his body
lost only "a few minutes" in 3D time while his crew saw him knocked down
and then recovered. This was a fantastic episode, imo.

ye that could be possible..that the body continues to do what it does like on auto pilot, while the soul is abducted or so it seems, didn't the C's call it Etheric body abduction?

 

[Ominous]

The ppl expecting to be paid sullied the whole thing for me. As was stated, the "red flags" shoulda went up real quick altho I really enjoyed the discussion goin on. PEACE

 

[QueenVee]

The ppl expecting to be paid sullied the whole thing for me. As was stated, the "red flags" shoulda went up real quick.... PEACE

Yes, but quite apart from that, the whole thing requires you to take some staggering leaps in logic in order to come to the conclusion that this represents some kind of alien abduction. I kept watching the video saying "Huh? What am I missing here?"

Goodness, what you see on the tape could represent any number of mundane, non-extraordinary situations. How do we know that there's anything particularly unsual about the "flash of light"? Where's the expert video analysis on all the possible things that could cause that effect on a video tape? The guy walks out the door and disappears for two hours; when he comes back he's on his knees and ends of vomiting and staggering around. Heck, it wouldn't be the first time that someone got piss-drunk on a night shift. He could have been into some kind of shady business, went out to meet someone (let's say, to score some drugs or something), and ended up getting beat up. A few good punches to the abdomen would have you on your knees throwing up. He might have been feeling unwell when he left, might be the reason he went outside, to get some fresh air, hoping he'd feel better; maybe he passed out/fell asleep from illness, who knows what kind of medical conditions he might have... etc etc.

I'd take it all a lot more seriously if the guy himself was claiming to have experienced something strange, missing time, disorientation, a UFO sighting, an actual abduction, etc. If he subsequently took a lie-detector and/or underwent hypnosis with a credible person like Bud Hopkins, and his story held up, well then I'd say that sometime truly extraordinary had been captured on film. But without some kind of coroborating information/evidence, I think the video is a whole lot of nothing.

Publicizing this kind of thing just discredits serious UFO/abduction research, in my opinion.

 

[QueenVee]

This reminds me of "Star Trek, The Next Generation" whereas Picard
was "knocked out" by a beam from a spacecraft which was actually a
download of an "interactive program (a memory)" from the spacecraft
and Picard was living a "lifetime" in this programming whereas his body
lost only "a few minutes" in 3D time while his crew saw him knocked down
and then recovered. This was a fantastic episode, imo.

I absolutely LOVED that episode, how it made you reconsider the concept of time. It was also very evocative for me because I once had a dream in which I felt that I had experienced an ENTIRE LIFETIME as another person, just as he does in the episode. It was the most extraordinary thing. Has anyone else experienced that?

 

[observer]

ye that could be possible..that the body continues to do what it does like on auto pilot, while the soul is abducted or so it seems, didn't the C's call it Etheric body abduction?

I think that body and soul (if there is one) are conjoined or intertwined in such way that there is no "zombie mode" in our 3D level of existence. If there is zero time capture from 4D, it is so for both. I think C's talked about making copies of etheric bodies for abduction/research purposes.

 

[syldan]

It is my understanding, that because, the abductors come from a 4d environment and are only present in 3d for a very short time, (nano-seconds?)that they are able to resequence the event, so that the abducted doses not feel the gap. Having said this, it is my humble opinion that there are many misses and that the abductee may very well notice something went down. For example, in one of the UFO Hunters, where they cover a series of sightings in New Jersey, a man gets abducted, while stepping out of his car, in regression he remembers floating towards the ship, but when he is returned to his body he wakes up the next morning in his bed. So either the abductors messed up on the time frame, or the abductee does not remember entering his appartment. In this particular episode, the man woke up with his boxer shorts backwards. Which raises more questions... If you saw this episode, you wioll have noticed that under hypnotic regression, the footage gets cut off as soon as the abductee is about to describe his abductors, the only words he says : ''They're not people!'' with a shrill in his voice.

Secondly, somenone very dear to me, who has undergone regression lately, has pinpointed an event when he was six years old, where he was coming out of an elementary school, and he got abducted, just like that from the steps of the school, and through regression he was able to pinpoint that when he was returned into his body, his body was walking towards home, but on a street that as a child he never used to walk home on, but a street that he walked to go to his grandparents house. Having said that, this individual, during his entire life had not once thought that something of this nature had happened to him, but he always very vividly remembered the confusion caused by waking up on the wrong street...

This may be a little off subject, but in the same general sense, a very scary realisation came to this individual during this process. At one point during regression, the individual understood that the ship over the school could abduct him again, any time he would walk those same steps. Since inside the thought-ship, there is no time, they could pick the abductee out of his body, anytime he was in the specific general vaccinity for the rest of his natural life. It is his belief that a ship such as the one that he was abducted to, hovers in a spoecific area of the sky, from where the abductors can pick and chose victims, throughout the whole subsystem of time. And considering that they understand humans oh so much better than we do, that gives them a certain edge I would say...

Having said that, this individual finally understood better why at a very young age he was determined to never live in his hometown, and that he spent most of his life travelling around the globe.

NB: I just reread some of the entries and something came to my mind, I remember reading in Cass transcirpts, that the abduction was a process of taking a holographic image of the soul, not THE soul. And that there makes all the difference, because the soul as such is but for a nano-second in two realities at once, never breaking the soul-body bond, otherwise, I think there would be instant death...

Many of us who have experienced parallel realities, or OBE, or NDE, can relate to the fact that there is always this body-soul bond throughout the experience, and that it is as if a copy of the soul-body was moving in other realms for the experience....

Hope this is of some help?!...

 

[Beorn]

This reminds me of "Star Trek, The Next Generation" whereas Picard
was "knocked out" by a beam from a spacecraft which was actually a
download of an "interactive program (a memory)" from the spacecraft
and Picard was living a "lifetime" in this programming whereas his body
lost only "a few minutes" in 3D time while his crew saw him knocked down
and then recovered. This was a fantastic episode, imo.

I absolutely LOVED that episode, how it made you reconsider the concept of time. It was also very evocative for me because I once had a dream in which I felt that I had experienced an ENTIRE LIFETIME as another person, just as he does in the episode. It was the most extraordinary thing. Has anyone else experienced that?

Not me personally but Robert Moss - "Conscious Dreaming" says that when he was younger he lived an entire lifetime in one of his dreams.