Seeking the help of Spirit Guides

[Bosphorus1982]

Hi guys. I'd like to talk about Spirit Guides. You know you have 2 spirits in the Beyond that are on your side and that guide and protect you. For some time, i have been receiving their help. Began more than 10 years ago and i have been in contact with them closely. Whenever i need something i call on them and they realize my needs appropriately. Like protection from a danger, recovering swiftly from a disease, healing my psyche etc. It's total outstanding to know that you're helped/protected and you're not alone. If you're in certain difficulty now, call on your Spirit Guides and ask their help. You may begin like "Dear spirit guides, please help me and give me support in realizing ............". They have tremendous power in the Beyond to help you. They can help with nearly anything. Obeying free will rule suffices. If you like you can also call on Higher Self, Universe and God. Know that we are loved.

 

[Ursus Minor]

Hi guys. I'd like to talk about Spirit Guides. You know you have 2 spirits in the Beyond that are on your side and that guide and protect you. For some time, i have been receiving their help. Began more than 10 years ago and i have been in contact with them closely. Whenever i need something i call on them and they realize my needs appropriately. Like protection from a danger, recovering swiftly from a disease, healing my psyche etc. It's total outstanding to know that you're helped/protected and you're not alone. If you're in certain difficulty now, call on your Spirit Guides and ask their help. You may begin like "Dear spirit guides, please help me and give me support in realizing ............". They have tremendous power in the Beyond to help you. They can help with nearly anything. Obeying free will rule suffices. If you like you can also call on Higher Self, Universe and God. Know that we are loved.

How did you find out that there are spirits in the Beyond that guide and protect you?
The idea does not seem to be unique since e.g. Native Americans have the same conception.

What do you consider as the Beyond? 5-D?

How reliable are 5-D spirits? Could they have their own agenda sometimes?

I think I'd stick to calling on my Higher Self and the C's for guidance, with the latter telling us that they are "only one thought away."

 

[luc]

I don't think it's wrong to "call" the higher realms for assistance, although I'm not so fond of the word "spirit guides" because of certain New Age connotations. I would just call it prayer. Maybe that's just me though.

One thing I gathered from the literature about the afterworld (and also from the Cs, and from personal experience) is that it's NOT about "I wish this or that" and then it happens. It doesn't work like that. It seems clear to me that whoever is listening "up there" will NOT grant us our wishes, unless they are completely unselfish and aimed at something higher. Some sources (such as Moses Stanton's channellings) explicitly say that more often than not, prayers cannot be answered because they are selfish and answering them would hurt the person spiritually. In Stanton's material the spirits even claim they used Stanton's illness for good spiritual advantage, to guide him in certain directions. So even if they could, they certainly refused to cure his illness. I think if any spirit claimed he could grant us all our wishes and satisfy all our whims, without us doing our part, I would stay clear of that one!

 

[Glenn]

Whenever i need something i call on them and they realize my needs appropriately. Like protection from a danger...

If these spirit guides, as you call them know, that all is lessons, then why would they intervene to have you avoid such lessons? Kind of seems like a breach of the number one objective. If you have not gained knowledge, and learned your lessons, without these, spirit guides/babysitters, you would be pretty much toast on your own. And isn't that a lesson in an of itself?

I think if any spirit claimed he could grant us all our wishes and satisfy all our whims, without us doing our part, I would stay clear of that one!

Yep, I agree. There is no easy road to learning, you have to do the heavy lifting yourself. IMO.

 

[Konstantin]

I agree with others. As Laura said that if you think there is a free lunch , then you are the lunch.
Imagine the chaos if these spirit guides or whatever you like to call them acts upon our selfish wishes.
I dont see any reason for this reality and us humans as a 3d beigns to exist if higher spirits would listen and fulfill our every selfish wish, because the puprose of this 3d realm as a school and lessons that we learn here will be lost.

 

[Tristan]

You can have a look here: Angels and Prayer.

 

[Tristan]

Rather than asking for help from spiritual guides (which is not a very clear term) and I guess you have to be careful with that.
what has been suggested here instead is to ask for help through our ancestors (the goodies) or at least it is what I have understood.

 

[Oxajil]

In having a wish 'granted' I think important factors are non-anticipation, being realistic, your own efforts and choices, and so forth. I don't think there's harm in asking for guidance and help from either 'spirit guides' (which I agree is a bit of a vague term), ancestors, Higher Self, or the Universe. But effort is also needed from your side (more so). Also keep in mind in some cases: 'Be careful what you wish for!'

Perhaps a better way to look at it is that you're actively working towards a goal, and that you ask for help/guidance in the way of inspiration, clarity or opportunities. My 2 small cents.

 

[bianca etezete]

I agree with others. As Laura said that if you think there is a free lunch , then you are the lunch.
Imagine the chaos if these spirit guides or whatever you like to call them acts upon our selfish wishes.
I dont see any reason for this reality and us humans as a 3d beigns to exist if higher spirits would listen and fulfill our every selfish wish, because the puprose of this 3d realm as a school and lessons that we learn here will be lost.

Oh, i agree, but I also think there IS help, but maybe in another sense than Bosphorus1982 sees it (and I do wonder what makes him think to be able to count them as exactely two per person...). The help is only given to people who are NOT begging, relying or basing on it. Only to those who really do The Work. And then it is only help, not doing it instead of you.

 

[Courageous Inmate Sort]

I agree with others. As Laura said that if you think there is a free lunch , then you are the lunch.
Imagine the chaos if these spirit guides or whatever you like to call them acts upon our selfish wishes.

I've been very intrigued by human interaction with spirits as spiritists religions have become quite widespread around here, relatively speaking. Reading and talking to a couple of people that are involved, I've learned that there are spirits that will grant you your selfish wishes, but at a cost. Some spirits deceive you in the sense that the cost is not disclosed while others are open and tell you, I can make this happen but the price will be very steep. Even knowing about the cost, many people seem to go for having their wishes fulfilled to deeply regret it later.

You know you have 2 spirits in the Beyond that are on your side and that guide and protect you.

It might be true for you, but how do you know that applies to everyone? Why two, not one or three or fifty?

For some time, i have been receiving their help. Began more than 10 years ago and i have been in contact with them closely. Whenever i need something i call on them and they realize my needs appropriately.

I'm curious, how did it began and how do they communicate?

edit: had not seen etezete's post mentioning the two per person issue.

 

[Courageous Inmate Sort]

If these spirit guides, as you call them know, that all is lessons, then why would they intervene to have you avoid such lessons? Kind of seems like a breach of the number one objective. If you have not gained knowledge, and learned your lessons, without these, spirit guides/babysitters, you would be pretty much toast on your own. And isn't that a lesson in an of itself?

I dont see any reason for this reality and us humans as a 3d beigns to exist if higher spirits would listen and fulfill our every selfish wish, because the puprose of this 3d realm as a school and lessons that we learn here will be lost.

Session December 29, 2018 addresses that issue from the point of view of the Good Guys Labs, as Chu called it:

(Chu) The thing about the 4D labs... We were talking earlier about free will and all that. So, how would it work at a practical level? Are there Good Guys Labs, Bad Guys Labs, and the bad guys interfere as much as they can, while the good guys are not allowed to interfere, but just to protect? Or because the person asks?

A: When asked and when it will not cause a disturbance in life lesson plans.

Q: (L) So in a certain sense...

(Joe) It's dependent on the person's life lesson plan. If their plan is to experience something nasty, then they're probably not gonna get any help. If it's part of some maneuver by some other forces trying to subvert that life plan, then you get help.

A: Yes exactly.

Q: (L) So, basically from what I've been putting together from our discussions over the past few years, it seems that there are beings in 5D who can share their lessons and energy with us if we're connected in some way like genetically or some spiritual connection or whatever – really, almost like ancient ancestor worship. Then there are beings in 4D who are basically like angels and demons who can help or harm. So, some of the ancient depictions of life and spiritual realities aren't that far off. Is that what we're saying here?

A: Yes

 

[Wandering Star]

Session 27 January 1996

Q: (PZ) Do we all have a guardian angel? Each and every one of us? One to a person?

A: Not correct concept.

Q: (L) What is the correct concept?

A: Not possible for you to comprehend.

Q: (L) How do we get assistance from higher realms?

A: By asking and...

Q: (L) What is the limit to the kind of assistance we can receive?

A: Limit?!? We live within a realm that includes no such thing!!!

Q: (L) Well, the 'angel thing' is pretty big nowadays. There are an awful lot of angels running around. My first thought was: 'what better way for the bad guys to deceive than to appear as angels.'

A: Not true!!! STS CAN appear as entities incorrectly perceived as "angels," but if it is really a sixth density being, incorrect perception is not possible.

Q: (L) I don't understand. There are a LOT of beings who deceive people. They produce phenomena, they do any number of things including making people 'feel good,' have dreams, and all that. What do you mean that incorrect perception is not possible? It happens all the time!

A: No.

Q: (L) Well, what is the story here?

A: Your perception abilities are short-circuiting due to vibrational interaction.

Q: (L) If you there is anywhere in you a question about what you are perceiving, then that question is an indication that all the rest of what you are perceiving could be false?

A: Part of the equation.

Q: (L) So, if it is really a 6th density being, it will blow you away to such an extent that there is NO question?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, what is the other part of the equation?

A: Well, why do you question us? First of all, you question us because the communication is limited at this point... you are not yet prepared for stronger envelopment.

Q: (PZ) So, I should continue to pray?

A: All goes to 6th density.

 

[Nienna]

As some of you may already know, I like to caution people about thinking that everything/everyone on "higher levels/planes" is a "good guy" and only does what is best for us. So here are a couple of items I'd like to share:

You can have a look here: Angels and Prayer.

I'd like to quote a small portion of what Tristan linked to:

Session 6-10-95

Q: (L) Are there, as is being talked about widely, such beings as “angels?”
A: Yes, but they are not of the 4th density.
Q: (L) What is an angel?
A: Sixth density light being in service to others.
Q: (L) Do they appear as humans?
A: May appear as a human projection.
Q: (L) Is it possible for other density STS beings to appear as and project themselves as angels and to be misnamed or mistaken for angels?
A: Certainly.
Q: (L) Is this happening to a certain extent?
A: Very likely. Deception is part of any and all processes directed toward the manipulation of others for purposes of self gain. And, as we have warned, those of the 4th density service to self nature are interested solely in their own advancement, gain or condition, and will facilitate any and all processes which will further this cause including deception of the nature described.

And, then, there is this that Laura discusses in The Wave I speaking of the experience of a woman who is talking about The Beautiful Lady:

She puts the robe around me and then my mind separates from my body. I can look back and see it lying there. Then we go up through the ceiling, pop out the roof, and fly into space. One night the Lady took me back in time. We were in a foreign country and the people wore old-fashioned clothes. The Lady took on the appearance of a beautiful woman in a blue robe. She performed miracles for them..."

Suddenly Ann's face turned ashen and she asked to be excused. Her scream of pain was heard from the bathroom where she had taken refuge. When Ann came out, she was sniffling and holding her abdomen. The Lady had savagely attacked her for revealing that down through history, creatures like the Lady have taken the form of saints. They then use the gullibility of humankind to misguide and misinform people so that they believe they are seeing miracles performed. Ann begged the newsman to delete that portion of the interview." (Osborn, 1982)

Just something to keep in mind when asking those in different realms/ dimensions/densities/spiritual planes for help and guidance. We need to be fairly specific on whom we are asking for help from.

fwiw