Seems that the SOTT site locks out the Forum tab on Firefox?

[dant]

I found a strange anomaly, it seems. When I first open a
firefox tab as 'forum', it works fine. Then I open a new tab
for SOTT, I am no longer able to switch back to the forum
tab!

Does anyone else have this problem?

I discovered this problem when I rebooted my system!

Dan

 

[Mark]

No, but it sounds like a Firefox problem. Got the latest version 2.0.0.8 or later. ?

 

[dant]

It is the latest version (2.0.0.8). I noticed that there is a LOAD of other
connections made when SOTT is started up and it seems to cause
a very high load and does not go away unless I kill the SOTT tab.

There are two specific IPs that it is try to connect to is: 208.65.153.251
and it causes a high CPU load. When I kill the SOTT tab, these IP connections
do not drop.

OrgName: YouTube, Inc.
OrgID: YOUTU
Address: 71 E Third Ave
Address: 2nd Floor
City: San Mateo
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94401
Country: US

NetRange: 208.65.152.0 - 208.65.155.255
CIDR: 208.65.152.0/22
NetName: YOUTUBE
NetHandle: NET-208-65-152-0-1
Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS1.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM
NameServer: DNS2.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-03-02
Updated: 2006-03-09

RTechHandle: NETWO1084-ARIN
RTechName: networkradbaccount
RTechPhone: +1-650-343-2960
RTechEmail: ****@youtube.com

OrgTechHandle: NETWO1084-ARIN
OrgTechName: networkradbaccount
OrgTechPhone: +1-650-343-2960
OrgTechEmail: ****@youtube.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-10-28 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

 

[rs]

whois 208.65.153.251

OrgName: YouTube, Inc.
OrgID: YOUTU
Address: 71 E Third Ave
Address: 2nd Floor
City: San Mateo
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94401
Country: US

NetRange: 208.65.152.0 - 208.65.155.255
CIDR: 208.65.152.0/22
NetName: YOUTUBE
NetHandle: NET-208-65-152-0-1
Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS1.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM
NameServer: DNS2.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-03-02
Updated: 2006-03-09

RTechHandle: NETWO1084-ARIN
RTechName: networkradbaccount
RTechPhone: +1-650-343-2960
RTechEmail: radb@youtube.com

OrgTechHandle: NETWO1084-ARIN
OrgTechName: networkradbaccount
OrgTechPhone: +1-650-343-2960
OrgTechEmail: radb@youtube.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-10-28 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

The SOTT page has an embedded link to a youTube video, and maybe the load is caused by the flash player attempting to prefetch the video. You do have flashblocker plugin on your firefox, don't you... ;)

 

[dant]

No, I do not have blockers. I can open other site tabs and
it is not a problem. It is the SOTT page that causes it, osis.

UPDATE:
It is definitively clear that the "Something this way comes",
uTube connection freezes up and causes a high CPU load.

The status says: "Read img.utube.com" and the status
progress bar stops.

Please look into this?

Thanks!

 

[rs]

well there are four flash objects on the sott page, two of which point to youTube. You might want to install the firefox flash blocker. It blocks flash boxes from executing but still allows you to unblock them. It cuts down on much of the web page noise in so many sites these days. There is way too much blinking stuff for my aging eyes...

http://flashblock.mozdev.org/

 

[dant]

Thanks Rs, for the blocker but this does not help.

 

[Mark]

If you have an special plugins installed for firefox then disable them all just to see if that fixes the problem.

But don't worry, sooner or later we're gonna find a way to blame Microsoft

 

[adam7117]

Mark has a good idea - try disabling all plugins and skins first.

If you have TabMix Plus, there might be a problem in the settings - try resetting to defaults (TabMix > Settings > Restore Defaults)

If you use Fasterfox, it may be the one establishing multiple server connections. Same if you changed the about:config page.

While i never had same problem, in other situations uninstalling Firefox and deleting the leftover folders always did the trick. Although that's probably the last resort.

Good luck.

 

[Color]

I'm using the last Firefox also and when tried to see "Something wicked this way comes" from the main SOTT page - it won't download,
just trying to until forever, and when opening the article on the new page it says: this video is no longer avaliable...

So I tried and I tried but all the same and I had to go to the youtube page and finally saw it from there.

This is a firefox thing since when switched to IE, not having this problem, but I have also troubles for almost a week now with SOTT and forum pages, have to click few times or refresh 3-4 times before getting the page right. Often it opens it like this, just a sec ago:

GET /signs/forum/post.php?tid=7407&qid=52797 HTTP/1.1
Host: www.sott.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8
Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7407
Cookie: sotten_punbb_cookie=a%3A2%3A%7Bi%3A0%3Bs%3A4%3A%221950%22%3Bi%3A1%3Bs%3A32%3A%222e40ed8f1fe03eba1baf8f1b9bf6fb67%22%3B%7D

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:01:31 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 PHP/5.2.1 mod_ssl/2.2.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8c
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.1
Expires: Thu, 21 Jul 1977 07:30:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:01:31 GMT
Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Vary: User-Agent,Accept-Encoding
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 4697
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

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but the most problematic is index forum page, links to it open different lil pictures, like somebody's icon instead of index page. Also, links to threads tends to open some other threads instead of the right one, it's a huge mess all together.

I wanted to ask about this before, but I didn't wanna bother you all, since the server was changing and I thought it will end when all done.
So, I don't know what's the reason for this except it has to do something with Firefox, but there's no way I'm returning to the IE,
and hopefully this crazy loading will soon be over.

 

[dant]

If you have an special plugins installed for firefox then disable them all just to see if that fixes the problem.

But don't worry, sooner or later we're gonna find a way to blame Microsoft

Mark, be careful of "wishful thinking" :D Need I explain? :D:D

I tried your suggestion anyway and it is not the problem. After all, it turns
out that the problem showed up due to the inclusion of the SOTT uTube movie
on the page, because after all, I have never had a problem with Firefox and still do
not with many other sites other that I currently visit. BTW: I use FireFox exclusively
now, and haven't used IE6 due to no tab support and occasionally sites that do not
support FF. I am still using Windows 2000 and never trusted XP although I do have
a computer with XP installed which is why I said I use IE6, and not IE7. -Anyway-

It is clear to me that the problem might be with SOTT's html-coding implementing the
uTube movie and I actually tested it directly and it seems that when you run the actual
URL browser command: http://www.youtube.com/v/_CnGRnz9Fi4&rel=1 in two or
three tabs without starting them, then I can still switch my tabs just fine. Notice that the
pages loads "immediately" and does not hang nor does it self-start. It seems to me that
somehow the loading of the SOTT page perhaps either fires the start button, or that the
loading of the uTube movie is somehow not loading properly due to use of the HTML
OBJECT code and/or its parameters. So, it does not appear to be the uTube movie itself
but rather the page implementation, osis.

The thing I noticed is when loading the SOTT page, the status message at the bottom of
the page reports:

1) "Waiting for img.utube.com"
2) "Transferring img.utube.com"
3) "Read img.utube.com" and it hangs.

An interesing side note, is that if you run two/three utube movies simultaneously in seperate
tabs, you might notice that only ONE is allowed to run while the others will be "suspended"
waiting for the running movie to terminate. You may also notice that the CPU load is near
90-100% and there is no problem changing the tabs. This tells me that uTube does not
tie up threads. Interestingly, if you terminate the running movie tab, the other tab in
succession it was started will start running until completion or termination and so on.

Well, here is it, my detailed explanations and I hope I am right in my observations, but if
not, then "To Err is Human", grr.

 

[Mark]

An interesing side note, is that if you run two/three utube movies simultaneously in seperate
tabs,

Did you try to open three or more pages at Youtube (not just direct video links, but actual pages) and switch tabs?

 

[dant]

Mark: Yes.

No problems other than high CPU loads which
makes it a little jerky, but this is expected. I
can switch tabs fairly easily.