Shapeshifters

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In regards to (Icke’s) shapeshifters, how exactly do they do it? What is the technology behind it? Is it what “lizzies” are? Is it possible to see their true form with certain sound frequency or light range modification?
 
Aurora_ said:
What is the technology behind it?
Aurora, no technology is necessarily needed. Mind power.

Aurora_ said:
how exactly do they do it?
Unknown. Alter perceived form by influencing the minds of the perceivers, probably.

Aurora_ said:
Is it possible to see their true form with certain sound frequency or light range modification?
Are you asking whether it is possible to offset effects of their collective or personal minds' influences through application of some technology?
I think yes. Question is what technology and how to engineer and construct it. Or where to obtain it...
Also I think it is possible to do the same through counteracting by mind power, but many highly trained and focused individuals may be necessary for this.

And do not forget that their natural density level is 4th, not 3rd as current humanity's is.
 
As far as I understand shape shifting is according to the C's primarily a 4D concept, which means in 4D you don't have a fixed body anymore like here on earth in 3D. 4D is in theory semi physical without the boundaries of time and space. I don't know exactly from where David Icke got it, but I suspect that most likely the information is corrupted and twisted to muddy the water and to make people look crazy that try to understand higher densities and the alien nature in general.

The following had the C's said about shape shifting (session from 11 January 1995):

Laura said:
Q: (Frank) I don't think I'll repeat that Barry. (L) Did he use the "F" word? (Frank) No, he referred to a part of the anatomy. (Barry) Are Lizards shape shifters?

A: All on 4th level of density have that ability.

Q: (Barry) Do they have the ability to block their true appearance?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) Are they walking around amongst us now?

A: Infrequently, they use "agents" to do most of their tasks on 3rd level.

Q: (Barry) Are these agents the "Men in Black" or are they the "Grays?"

A: Both and many others. Men in Black are often Lizards cloaked as human types, and can remain on 3rd density level for limited periods called short wave cycle. Men in Black claim to be government in order to have excuse to have direct contact with selected humans.

Q: (Barry) Have these Men in Black killed humans?

A: No.

Q: (Frank) They just threaten?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) Have the Lizards killed humans?

A: Oh yes!!!

Q: (Barry) There is a book out that says that if you meet the Buddha on the road you should kill him, should we do the same with a Lizard?

A: Strange.

Q: (Barry) Is there a physical confrontation going on in other than 3rd density that is resulting in bodies being blown apart and death and destruction and so on?

A: Not exactly, remember, you are applying 3rd level ideas to 4th level reality, which does not fit.

Q: (Barry) Does that mean that blowing bodies apart does not fit?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) But they do have physical bodies on the 4th level, don't they?

A: Transitory.

Q: (Barry) So are ours.

A: No, yours aren't.

Q: (Barry) Because they can shape-shift does that mean that if they were to be shattered they could bring their bodies back together again into the shape they just were?

A: Close.

Q: (Barry) Are the Lizards behind any of the apparitions of the Virgin Mary around the world?

A: Yes. All of them.

Q: (Barry) What is the purpose behind this?

A: Diversions and disinformation so that knowledge will be dispersed, therefore more will be open to attack.

There is also an entire topic on David Icke on the forum: About David Icke & James Redfield.
 
MrEightFive said:
Are you asking whether it is possible to offset effects of their collective or personal minds' influences through application of some technology?
I think yes. Question is what technology and how to engineer and construct it. Or where to obtain it...
Also I think it is possible to do the same through counteracting by mind power, but many highly trained and focused individuals may be necessary for this.

I think I may have found something about this in the Emerald Tablets. If the author is referring to these type of encounters then here is the reference:

"Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place."

"But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men."

And thanks Gawan, all this information is very interesting and helpful.
 
Gawan said:
As far as I understand shape shifting is according to the C's primarily a 4D concept, which means in 4D you don't have a fixed body anymore like here on earth in 3D. 4D is in theory semi physical without the boundaries of time and space. I don't know exactly from where David Icke got it, but I suspect that most likely the information is corrupted and twisted to muddy the water and to make people look crazy that try to understand higher densities and the alien nature in general.

The following had the C's said about shape shifting (session from 11 January 1995):

Laura said:
Q: (Frank) I don't think I'll repeat that Barry. (L) Did he use the "F" word? (Frank) No, he referred to a part of the anatomy. (Barry) Are Lizards shape shifters?

A: All on 4th level of density have that ability.

Q: (Barry) Do they have the ability to block their true appearance?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) Are they walking around amongst us now?

A: Infrequently, they use "agents" to do most of their tasks on 3rd level.

Q: (Barry) Are these agents the "Men in Black" or are they the "Grays?"

A: Both and many others. Men in Black are often Lizards cloaked as human types, and can remain on 3rd density level for limited periods called short wave cycle. Men in Black claim to be government in order to have excuse to have direct contact with selected humans.

Q: (Barry) Have these Men in Black killed humans?

A: No.

Q: (Frank) They just threaten?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) Have the Lizards killed humans?

A: Oh yes!!!

Q: (Barry) There is a book out that says that if you meet the Buddha on the road you should kill him, should we do the same with a Lizard?

A: Strange.

Q: (Barry) Is there a physical confrontation going on in other than 3rd density that is resulting in bodies being blown apart and death and destruction and so on?

A: Not exactly, remember, you are applying 3rd level ideas to 4th level reality, which does not fit.

Q: (Barry) Does that mean that blowing bodies apart does not fit?

A: Yes.

Q: (Barry) But they do have physical bodies on the 4th level, don't they?

A: Transitory.

Q: (Barry) So are ours.

A: No, yours aren't.

Q: (Barry) Because they can shape-shift does that mean that if they were to be shattered they could bring their bodies back together again into the shape they just were?

A: Close.

Q: (Barry) Are the Lizards behind any of the apparitions of the Virgin Mary around the world?

A: Yes. All of them.

Q: (Barry) What is the purpose behind this?

A: Diversions and disinformation so that knowledge will be dispersed, therefore more will be open to attack.

There is also an entire topic on David Icke on the forum: About David Icke & James Redfield.
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