Shopping for Spirit

[gnosticpathfinder]

Series of articles by Stephen Gamble with discussion group at Yahoo ... very interesting ideas ... online at www(dot)equilibra.uk.com

 

[vinny]

gnosticpathfinder, what are your views on this site? as you brought it up.

I've had a quick look and there are various warning signs for me. I don't have time to go into details but here are a couple of quick examples to give a flavour of some wording that is casually used:

The great slumber of Man is coming to an end and the great awakening beckons us all.

yeah right.

It is important that we can develop our intuition so we can determine our own truth and stop living our lives by somebody else's truth.

my truth? somebody else's truth? hmmm. different truths, for different situations. nice words.

edit: another one:

We are our own Master if we can just access that aspect of ourselves.

this flies in the face of the Gurdjieffian idea that we cannot 'do', and the further idea that the choices we have come down too choosing with with higher aspect of creation to align ourselves with, ie to allow the universe to work through us 'top-down' rather than try to impose ourselves on it in a 'bottom up' fashion.

so 'caveat lector' at all times, I think.

 

[gnosticpathfinder]

I just took the 'core' from his articles ... which I sign my postings with. I'm still thinking about all the rest of it.

 

[anart]

gnosticpathfinder, I mean no disrespect, but it seems that you have very quickly developed a pattern here on this forum of putting forth the ideas of others in a rather enthusiastic way, and then, after being questioned, or even challenged on those ideas, making statements that indicate that you have not really fully investigated every aspect of that which you have put forth.

Perhaps it would be best to hold off on putting forth any further ideas until you can stand fully and completely behind them, or, at the very least, can present a comprehensive explanation of why you think these ideas warrant general attention. Just a thought.

 

[Art]

I just took the 'core' from his articles ... which I sign my postings with.

You mean this?:

Gnostic One -- My being asks the Spiritual Light that is within and Light that is all things living to permeate and fill my entire Energy Body and Soul with Unconditional Love and Light, thus restoring my consciousness back into its healthy and balanced state of being -- a perfect reflection of the Spiritual Light that is within.

Can you please explain it a little bit? Because I dont understand what it is talkig about.

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Five minutes before posting the first post on this thread, gnosticpathfinder had written here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2195&p=2 Post #11

Thank you for all of your comments ... I am abandoning my role within the structure proposed by the 'Fire the Grid' website ... agree it sounds more like feeding the matrix to me ... in line with what Stephen Gamble outlines in his series of articles, Shopping for Spirit ... online at www(dot)equilibra.uk.com ... agree with the first comment that people may heal themselves ... after all, this boy was brought back from death's door ... but I don't think this planet needs our efforts to do the same ... if the earth cleanses itself periodically of the 'virus' living on its surface ... it's not much different than putting the dirty laundry through the washing machine.
Dhane Blue

 

[Peam]

You mean this?:

Gnostic One -- My being asks the Spiritual Light that is within and Light that is all things living to permeate and fill my entire Energy Body and Soul with Unconditional Love and Light, thus restoring my consciousness back into its healthy and balanced state of being -- a perfect reflection of the Spiritual Light that is within.

Can you please explain it a little bit? Because I dont understand what it is talkig about.

I'll have a go Art.
It seems to be saying that all one needs to do to get ones instinctual, emotional and thinking apparatus working in partnership, is to simply invoke the love and light to swill over you. No need for all that Gurdjief stuff. Please correct me if I got it wrong.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Gnostic One -- My being asks the Spiritual Light that is within and Light that is all things living to permeate and fill my entire Energy Body and Soul with Unconditional Love and Light

That's a confusing statement. If spiritual light is already within and is already all things living, what's the point of asking it to fill your "soul" - isn't that like asking water, which is already in a bucket, to fill that bucket? And then the qualification follows: Oh water in a bucket, please fill my bucket ... with clean water. (at this point the Light can be forgiven if it goes, "HUH!?!"). And I wonder why the writer of this assumes that "the light" simply just does what it is told, that interaction with "the light" does not require any sort of effort or understanding on our part, at the very least some vague clue about what this light thing might be, if it even exists. It's kinda like having a bucket of water and asking water in a nearby creek to go into the bucket (silly already), but add to that the fact that you're holding a PRETEND bucket and asking a creek you don't even know is there (in other words assuming you have a soul, assuming there's some pool of light somewhere that is just waiting to fill it on comand). If the water/light could laugh, I suspect it is laughing right about now. And no it's not gonna fill your bucket.

thus restoring my consciousness back into its healthy and balanced state of being
-- a perfect reflection of the Spiritual Light that is within.

The writer never wondered why his consciousness was so unhealthy and unbalanced to begin with? Is he just going to assume it's some mistake, maybe an accident? Maybe they don't sell buckets already filled with water for a reason? Do you buy a bucket and then wonder, "hmm this bucket is all empty, this must be some mistake, WATER I command you to go into my bucket and fill it with water to send my bucket back to the way it's SUPPOSED to be, and yes, I can declare how things should be without ever questioning if maybe they already are as they should be - because I can. So hop to it water, I don't have all day!".

Dare I say that the problem is probably not that the consciousness is unhealthy, but it is the ignorant and mechanical mind and body that are having health issues. But of course fixing THOSE requires lots of energy and effort, and why on earth would someone want to do any of that when apparently commanding some "spiritual light" to just hop in and clean house will do the trick? "Hey light, I'm growing impatient here! If you don't hop into my bucket this instant I'm telling Lord Sananda, and you know how cranky he gets when you refuse to obey!"

 

[Art]