Should we ban smoking outdoors?

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& the war on public smoking continues...

Should we ban smoking outdoors? - Yahoo! News UK

Found this part particularly interesting:
Smokers’ campaign group, Forest (Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco), condemns this as ‘pure nonsense’.

The group claims there was ‘much exaggeration and misuse of statistics' around the effects of passive smoking for campaign and political purposes’.

Spokesperson Angela Harbutt says: "Much of what has been said about second-hand smoke is hysterical exaggeration, designed to create fear and loathing of smoking and smokers."

She adds: "This kind of campaigning propaganda does little to advance the cause of public health and has contributed significantly to the public's growing mistrust of ‘medical research’."

Harbutt explains that the more dictatorial the authorities become about where people can and cannot smoke, the more militant smokers are.

"That is not a good thing, but an inevitable consequence of disproportionate and aggressive policies towards smokers," she says.

"Smokers, as with non-smokers, simply wish to live in a tolerant civil society where people respect one another's choices and are considerate to those around them, when exercising those choices. We ask all adults to show tolerance, consideration and a large dash of common sense when smoking around others."
 
What a pile of utter nonsense.

Always point the smokers but never say a word about the real impacts of atmospheric pollution on people's health. Don't forget to NEVER mention that smoking actually protects the lungs.
 
SMM said:
& the war on public smoking continues...

Should we ban smoking outdoors? - Yahoo! News UK

Found this part particularly interesting:
Harbutt explains that the more dictatorial the authorities become about where people can and cannot smoke, the more militant smokers are.

The more militant smokers are? Really? From my own experience, the more militant non-smokers are! All this anti-smoking propaganda gives non-smokers a boost and a sort of permission from authorities to behave aggressively towards smokers. 20 years ago the behavior many people exhibit towards those who smoke would be unheard of.
 
Should we ban smoking outdoors? Absolutely. We should also use drones to fire small vaccine-laden darts at children as they leave school, if any parents protest, they should be arrested. Every adult citizen should also be forced to sign a legally-binding document that clearly states that they fully trust their political representatives and will never publicly (or privately) express any doubt about their benevolent intentions. In addition, each legal document should contain an explicit recognition by each citizen that they cannot think and require their 'leaders' to think for them.
 
Perceval said:
Should we ban smoking outdoors? Absolutely. We should also use drones to fire small vaccine-laden darts at children as they leave school, if any parents protest, they should be arrested. Every adult citizen should also be forced to sign a legally-binding document that clearly states that they fully trust their political representatives and will never publicly (or privately) express any doubt about their benevolent intentions. In addition, each legal document should contain an explicit recognition by each citizen that they cannot think and require their 'leaders' to think for them.

:lol: Unfortunately, that's, as it seems, what our 'civiliized' society is heading to.
 
Olesya said:
Perceval said:
Should we ban smoking outdoors? Absolutely. We should also use drones to fire small vaccine-laden darts at children as they leave school, if any parents protest, they should be arrested. Every adult citizen should also be forced to sign a legally-binding document that clearly states that they fully trust their political representatives and will never publicly (or privately) express any doubt about their benevolent intentions. In addition, each legal document should contain an explicit recognition by each citizen that they cannot think and require their 'leaders' to think for them.

:lol: Unfortunately, that's, as it seems, what our 'civiliized' society is heading to.

It's basically already here, but the people were too apathetic to even pick up a pen and sign the contract!
 
Does anyone here think that our governments will go full on Nazi Germany and actually attempt to ban smoking outdoors? I know they talk about it, but will it actually happen? Personally, I don't think they'll outright ban smoking, simply because they make too much money from it, but doing it in public places is another matter.
 
Carlise said:
Olesya said:
Perceval said:
Should we ban smoking outdoors? Absolutely. We should also use drones to fire small vaccine-laden darts at children as they leave school, if any parents protest, they should be arrested. Every adult citizen should also be forced to sign a legally-binding document that clearly states that they fully trust their political representatives and will never publicly (or privately) express any doubt about their benevolent intentions. In addition, each legal document should contain an explicit recognition by each citizen that they cannot think and require their 'leaders' to think for them.

:lol: Unfortunately, that's, as it seems, what our 'civiliized' society is heading to.

It's basically already here, but the people were too apathetic to even pick up a pen and sign the contract!

Yep. I agree.
 
Explorer said:
Does anyone here think that our governments will go full on Nazi Germany and actually attempt to ban smoking outdoors? I know they talk about it, but will it actually happen? Personally, I don't think they'll outright ban smoking, simply because they make too much money from it, but doing it in public places is another matter.

Do you mean in the UK? Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans from Wiki:
Smoking is prohibited on all railway platforms in England, regardless of whether they are covered or not. These measures were introduced before any national smoking ban for safety reasons

So, it's already there in certain sense.
 
JayMark said:
What a pile of utter nonsense.

Always point the smokers but never say a word about the real impacts of atmospheric pollution on people's health. Don't forget to NEVER mention that smoking actually protects the lungs.
JayMark, I am a smoker and I would like to read more about how smoke protects the lungs, that sounds very interesting! Could you point me in the direction of where you read that please? Thank you :)
 
Kreu said:
JayMark said:
What a pile of utter nonsense.

Always point the smokers but never say a word about the real impacts of atmospheric pollution on people's health. Don't forget to NEVER mention that smoking actually protects the lungs.
JayMark, I am a smoker and I would like to read more about how smoke protects the lungs, that sounds very interesting! Could you point me in the direction of where you read that please? Thank you :)

I remember that article on SOTT. Here you go: http://www.sott.net/article/226999-Smoking-Helps-Protect-Against-Lung-Cancer
 
Kreu said:
JayMark said:
What a pile of utter nonsense.

Always point the smokers but never say a word about the real impacts of atmospheric pollution on people's health. Don't forget to NEVER mention that smoking actually protects the lungs.
JayMark, I am a smoker and I would like to read more about how smoke protects the lungs, that sounds very interesting! Could you point me in the direction of where you read that please? Thank you :)

Also, a few more:

http://www.sott.net/article/227052-Smoking-does-NOT-cause-lung-cancer-in-fact-it-just-might-protect-you-from-nuclear-fallout

http://www.sott.net/article/256364-Does-cigarette-smoking-really-cause-heart-disease

http://www.sott.net/article/262569-Smoking-The-black-lung-lie

http://www.sott.net/article/107043-Aliens-Dont-Like-to-Eat-People-That-Smoke
 
Psalehesost said:
Kreu said:
JayMark said:
What a pile of utter nonsense.

Always point the smokers but never say a word about the real impacts of atmospheric pollution on people's health. Don't forget to NEVER mention that smoking actually protects the lungs.
JayMark, I am a smoker and I would like to read more about how smoke protects the lungs, that sounds very interesting! Could you point me in the direction of where you read that please? Thank you :)

I remember that article on SOTT. Here you go: http://www.sott.net/article/226999-Smoking-Helps-Protect-Against-Lung-Cancer

Only organic, additive-free tobacco. :cool2:

Olesya said:
Explorer said:
Does anyone here think that our governments will go full on Nazi Germany and actually attempt to ban smoking outdoors? I know they talk about it, but will it actually happen? Personally, I don't think they'll outright ban smoking, simply because they make too much money from it, but doing it in public places is another matter.

Do you mean in the UK? Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans from Wiki:
Smoking is prohibited on all railway platforms in England, regardless of whether they are covered or not. These measures were introduced before any national smoking ban for safety reasons

So, it's already there in certain sense.

I meant an all out blanket ban. Maybe they're taking a slowly but surely approach?
 
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