Smith/Caduceus coil mystery

dant

The Living Force
Hi all,

Is there any mystery surrounding the "smith coil" (also called
caduceus coil) or has this been throughly discussed?

Some say that it creates a scalar wave property and others have
said that this scalar wave can penetate (transmit signals) through
metal where normal EM cannot. Others still claim time travel, and
other claim healing or health-damaging properties. Odd is the claim
that it is indirectly connected to the philadelphia/mantauk experiments.
It is interesting that the "smith coil" is also referred to as a "caduceus coil"
of which we know what the Cadeceus symbol is; two serpents helixically
wrapped around a staff with wings which may imply antigrav properties
or is it something else?

There is a story that Mr. Smith (from Canada) received this coil
from 'other-worldly' beings and it was said to have special properties
but it was up to "us" to figure it out. I was not able to find the best
link but here are some links that describe the man and some weak
links supporting the "gift from aliens".
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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/5924/
link: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm
http://www.presidentialufo.com/communic.htm

From link: http://uncletaz.com/library/scimath/cadcoil.html :
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1) THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED
LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A
HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT.
2) First. this apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil.
when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get
hot.
3) [...] it has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which
will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and
weakly on the 2nd or 3rd harmonic [...]
4) CADUCEUS COIL LEVITATES
This coil as I have tested it shows that if a sine-wave signal is applied
across this coil, placing a oscilloscope shows that the signal is "short-circuited"

There are other links that shows attempts to reveal its "secrets" by experimentation:
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http://jlnlabs.imars.com/spgen/
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/sclxmtr.htm
http://www.electrogravity.com/CPG/ <== closest I could get to a math representation?
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/caduceusexp.htm
http://www.fluxcap.com/HDR_Caduceus_Coil.htm <== odd - time travel?
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/maxwell.htm

There seems to be some real appliations using this coil:
--
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/cfa/index.html (cross-field antennae)
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/systemg/index.htm (ELF antennas)

What surprises me is that there is no mathematics to accurately model this
coil - nor publically revealed information from serious researchers done by anyone
in academia or by scientific journals that I am aware of. Seems that only the
"amateur scientists" are the ones playing with it and publishing their finds.

All of the links I provided was obtained from googling: "smith coil" and "caduceus coil"
I have placed this questions calling for a mathematical representation in a yahoo group
and have yet to receive any serious responses.

Questions I have is:
1) If in theory, that the signal is said to perfectly cancel signals out, hence
the explaination that there is no signal to be measured - then where does
the energy go? Is this energy "translated" into something else? Is there
any thermodymanic results due to this cancelation i.e. is there any heat
or entropy as a result of this cancelation?
2) Is there an unseen wave property (scalar wave) generated at all and can
it be measure or tested or is there a property that results in a 4D that cannot
be seen or measure in our 3D realm?

Another thought came to me: Perhaps this device is an STS ploy to get "us"
to "waste time" and thus not worth pursuing?

Does the C's or do you have any comments regarding this coil?

Kind regards,
Dan
 
Doesn't anyone have any comments about this coil?

I guess it has to remain a mystery, sigh...
 
dant said:
Doesn't anyone have any comments about this coil?

I guess it has to remain a mystery, sigh...
I think you should contact engineers. Some of the are certainly working on this and other kinds of antennas.
 
ark said:
dant said:
Doesn't anyone have any comments about this coil?

I guess it has to remain a mystery, sigh...
I think you should contact engineers. Some of the are certainly working on this and other kinds of antennas.
Dan, and a good engineer to start with might be Naudin (one of your links). I know Tony Smith (not the Smith of Smith coil) has a theory that fits with Naudin's use of the Rodin coil in what Naudin called a B-field Torsion Generator. I'm here cause Ark is a friend of Tony's and sometimes with ideas like these coils it is easier to first check who knows who than to analyze the ideas (where my abilities and time are limited). It's nice to have an opinion from someone you trust both technically and as a human being.
 
As a side remark: If you would like to know my opinion - I have my reason to not trust Naudin. Here one of the several reasons why. Here is another one. For explanation, search this forum for "Bearden".
 
ark said:
As a side remark: If you would like to know my opinion - I have my reason to not trust Naudin. Here one of the several reasons why. Here is another one. For explanation, search this forum for "Bearden".
Ark, this is why I wrote here regarding smith's coil and the other comments regarding
Maxwell - because I am trying to ensure that everything is out in the open so as to
expose all that responds so that truth or lies be exposed as quickly as possible. My goal
is to gain general knowledge and truth here and I hope this forum is the proper forum to
do just that? If not, please let me know and I will stop posting here.

I feel that subjects touching on EM, Free-Energy, AntiGrav and related topics of discussion
may be the PTB hot-buttons because I have sensed a lot OPs/disinfo artists in [forum/news/etc]
groups elsewhere so I was hoping C's or you guys here would have the sense to recognize
them and point these out? So far, I am not sensing any noise in this forum but then again,
I wonder if anyone with enough general knowledge in this forum is even around to comment
at this point in time.

My personal quest in general has always been (1) spiritual: God and all that is <knowledge
and truth> (2) physical: physics, math, history, science. My studies are: (1) Physics (major,
completed ~4 years but no degree (2) EE: degreed, finally my job experience is: (1) Hardware
Engineer, (2) Software Engineer (3) IT - so basically I carry a lot of personal experiences
with me.

At present, I am unemployed so I am using this time to study, review, and to experiment and
I am currently researching a little into the Caduceus coils at this time.

I can say that so far, I am seeing all sorts of unexpected anomolies with this coil and I have
limited equipment: 2 oscillocopes, signal generator, power supply, and some electronics stuff,
but nothing fancy such as grid-dip meters, magnetic probes, HV power supplies, i.e nothing like
laboratory quality and quantity. There are a lot of mysteries about this coil as opposed to a
standard single or bifilar wound coil but the caduceus coil has weird properties and seems to
behave mysteriously where sine/triangular waves are concerned [cannot see it on the signal
feed coil, implies zero impediance] but if sharp square waves are used, you can see these
signals as spikes on the scope. What is interesting is for all signals, using a secondary coil
can pick up these signals depending on what the input signal is an at what frequency is
operating on.

Also, it depends on what SHAPE the input signal caduceus coil is as it seems to have
the property that if a coil is wound on a ferrite rod, the "signal" is thought to be concentrated
along the rod axis. If the caduceus coil is wrapped around a ferrite ring, then the signal"
might be concentrated at it's center. Where quoted, the "signal" I am referring to is not
known what it is. I cannot tell if this is a "potential field" or what because in theory these
signals are supposedly "canceled out" and should be "nothing" right? This is the so called
mystery I think people are talking about. That is why I have been talking to you (ark) about
Maxwell because I wanted to see where or what this "signal" is and I don't have a clue but
so far it appears something is there... but the math does not show it as far as I can tell.

I will forego at this time what I have seen and scoped out - until there is enough interest
in this forum to proceed providing any more information to this forum.

Oh, one more thing. As I said in previous posting - that there was someone somewhere who
wrote that the c-coil was given to Mr. Smith as a "gift" and that it was from an "alien" and it
was implied that they could not reveal its secrets and it is up to us to discover it. Sounded to
me like they were preserving free-will and this is what piqued my interest to be honest, but
then again it could be bogus as there is no way to verify if this is true.

Kind regards,
Dan
 
ark said:
As a side remark: If you would like to know my opinion - I have my reason to not trust Naudin. Here one of the several reasons why. Here is another one. For explanation, search this forum for "Bearden".
Oops, apparently there's a reason I'm more into theorists than experimentalists. I think there are some good non-mainstream theorists and some good non-mainstream experimental data analyzers but I do feel quite out of my league when it comes to non-mainstream experiment designers (supposedly real experiment designers not thought experiment designers).
 
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