snake dream

[Kila]

I had this very weird dream last night.

A lot of this dream was pretty sketchy.. and disjointed.

But in the end I was walking in a room filled with large snakes, constrictor types. I had my small son with me. There were tables and on all the tables were several snakes. On one of the far tables two large snakes were lying. One was just finishing swallowing another, unrelated snake or reptile it seemed. Then a snake saw me and started towards me as I was backing out of the door with my son in arms. It starts to really come at me, I turn and am knocked down. I suddenly can't move and I feel this heavy weight on my body , my arms and legs are immobilized. My son in my arms seems oddly still and sort of blank. I can see the large head of the snake coming over my shoulder. I muster ever ounce of will I have and I bite it on the face. I can feel the crunch and I am sort of repulsed and while I can taste some sort of liquid it doesn't taste like blood to me which seems odd. And I am able to think pretty clearly. I can feel suddenly my arms and legs and I let go and I can see that one side of the snakes head is sort of crushed and bloody with the one eye severely damaged. I am expecting the snake to retreat hastily. ( I have kept various snakes and am very familiar with snake behavior and whenever a snake is injured by it's prey it beats a hasty retreat) Instead, this snake with it's huge head turns to stare at me with it's one good black eye. And I remember thinking this is no ordinary snake. But I'm not afraid ..I am furious. Then I wake up in a sweat. In the moment my eyes open I see a dark shadowy figure standing over me. I sit up to get a better look ...really kind of full of adrenalin. And it sort of just blows away...like smoke. My son is in bed with me, and his body is in an unusual sleeping position. At that moment he takes a very deep breath..almost like he was holding his breath before and just took a big in breath and then sort of readjusts himself into a more normal sleeping position.

It led me to get up and post a couple of additional questions on the C's thread.

Particularly whether sleeping with the parent offers any sort of psychic protection.


I also remember when my oldest was younger she had several weird dreams that she still remembers. One was with preying mantis that were coming to get her, and in that dream she said that she was awake enough that she kept trying to move her arm to touch me and when she finally managed to touch me she woke up and she could see them with her eyes open crawling up the wall and out through the corners in the ceiling. She also said that she would dream all the time that she was being pulled up out of bed and through the ceiling but if she could touch me she would sort of get sucked back down.

When she first started sleeping alone one of the things she would say was that she was scared and didn't feel safe.

Lately, we have been talking about all of this, because these sorts of dreams, some of them she says she sees even once her eyes are open. So we started talking about the material I've been reading in the Wave series. She said the last time she felt, that presence, she said she actually can here footsteps in her room with her eyes closed, come for her, she kept saying in her mind, I don't agree, I won't go with you, I won't do what you say, and it went away.

Just wondering ....don't know what to make of it all. Trying to stay pretty open.

Additionally, as I learn more, I have noticed that my oldest has had sleep issues her whole life pretty much. She has been taking melatonin about a year now and that has helped. She may also have Pyrrole syndrome. Anyway, she has said, now, that there are many times she wakes up exhausted for no good reason and with bruises or scrapes or sore places on her body that she doesn't remember getting during the day.
There are a number of high strangeness type events that she has related but nothing really during the day. Except one, where she saw large scaly claws opening the closet door in our room. She was about 4 when that happened.

I also remember as a child having snake dreams and being very afraid of the alligators coming through my window at night.
I always just thought it was because we were in Fla and snakes and gators are pretty common.
Just got done reading High Strangeness and I'm looking at all these things with a different lens I suppose. At the same time I don't want to create something where only imagination and stress may be to blame.

any thoughts?

 

[RedFox]

That's some pretty heavy stuff kila.....but saying that all too familiar.
I've had a few dreams recently where I've been fighting a shadowy figure in my dreams. One of which I posted a few days ago.

I also remember when my oldest was younger she had several weird dreams that she still remembers. One was with preying mantis that were coming to get her, and in that dream she said that she was awake enough that she kept trying to move her arm to touch me and when she finally managed to touch me she woke up and she could see them with her eyes open crawling up the wall and out through the corners in the ceiling. She also said that she would dream all the time that she was being pulled up out of bed and through the ceiling but if she could touch me she would sort of get sucked back down.

For me it was giant spider type creatures....and I remember seeing things once or twice in the corners by the ceiling go into the ceiling after these dreams. Many years of dreams of being dragged from my bed by an unseen force. And real life memories of running to my parents room at night as a small kid only to be knocked unconscious by the 'light' through the window.

Additionally, as I learn more, I have noticed that my oldest has had sleep issues her whole life pretty much. She has been taking melatonin about a year now and that has helped. She may also have Pyrrole syndrome. Anyway, she has said, now, that there are many times she wakes up exhausted for no good reason and with bruises or scrapes or sore places on her body that she doesn't remember getting during the day.
There are a number of high strangeness type events that she has related but nothing really during the day. Except one, where she saw large scaly claws opening the closet door in our room. She was about 4 when that happened.

Very similar events to my past too.

About the only thing I can add is that working through and applying to myself the psychology books has helped reduce the high strangeness in my life.
I don't know if its reduced it in anyones life around me though....but it may do?
Learning about our machine and cleaning out all the programs and emotions and junk, as well as detoxing our physical bodies seems to give us at least some protection from these sort of interactions. There is a part of the Adventures series in which Laura describes one of these events that I think fits.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventures056.htm

The night before the new pictures were to be made, I was worried about being able to go to sleep due to the strange events surrounding the loss of my films as well as other matters. After lying down, I was just trying to be still and calm down the pain, knowing I wasn't going to be able to go to sleep. I was right in the middle of puzzling over those blasted MRI's, when the next thing I knew there was a sort of momentary "blank-spot" and I came to myself, only to discover that I was being floated out of bed, feet first, by 3 or 4 spidery creatures who had me by the ankle and were "pulling" on me.

I was struggling and resisting and apparently had been doing so even while asleep because I found that my paralyzed arm was extended up over my head and was locked on the brass headboard in a "deathgrip" and the bed was shaking and bouncing with the efforts of my resistance. It was virtually a tug of war and I wasn't going to let go!

I looked at them and the creepy little spider guys realized that I had awakened. One of them put its hand on my head and I felt a paralysis coming over me. I became very angry. I wanted to curse them. But it was impossible to resist this paralysis and that made me even madder! I was determined that, even if they had technology that could overcome all of my efforts of resistance, that at least I would give them a piece of my mind! I was going to have my say!

With enormous concentration, I was able to utter a strangled sound. It was not the defiant curse I was working on in my head, but anything was progress against the "frozen" sensation of my entire body. And, it had a startling effect! As soon as I uttered this incomprehensible, cave person type sound, they dropped me like a hot potato and began sort of flitting and chattering like a nest of birds with a cat climbing the tree. They huddled together and sort of melted into a "shimmery" curtain thing alongside my bed. It was much like the mirage effect one sees on the road ahead when driving on a hot day.

My heart was pounding from real exertion. I can't say that I was terrified because such a thing is beyond terror. And, I have always been a person who acts cleanly and efficiently in a crisis, so this was no different in that respect. What had been most useful was that I had the information from the Cassiopaeans because that certainly had a lot to do with not feeling terrified which is more often a reaction to the unknown. At least, to some extent, I had an idea of what I was dealing with, even if I preferred to believe that it had been a hypnogogic nightmare.

At one point, while I was fighting them, while the bed seemed to be bouncing and jerking, I was very conscious that it was not waking my husband up, and after the creatures had melted away, when I had turned to work at peeling my paralyzed hand away from the headboard, I was startled to see and feel three distinct, wave-like shudders pass through his body starting from the head and moving down. After the third one, he took a deep breath, and began to snore suddenly and loudly as though he started right in mid-snore.

What was troubling me was that he was not been moving at all, not even to breathe! It struck me with horror that he seemed to have been "turned off" in order to prevent his intervention! That he COULD be turned off scared me half to death! I had NO protection at all! Not only that, when I tried to tell him what had happened, he thought I was imagining it. I can assure you, it was NOT Imagination, though it may indeed have occurred in a hyperdimensional reality, and had not been a material event as we understand them.

I don't know if any of this helps at all...maybe someone with more knowledge of these things can comment?

 

[Iron]

From the dreammoods website

To see a snake or be bitten by one in your dream, signifies hidden fears and worries that are threatening you. Your dream may be alerting you to something in your waking life that you are not aware of or that has not yet surfaced. Alternatively, the snake may be seen as phallic and thus symbolize temptation, dangerous and forbidden sexuality. If you are afraid of the snake, then it signifies your fears of sex, intimacy or commitment. The snake may also refer to a person around you who is callous, ruthless, and can't be trusted. As a positive symbol, snakes represent healing, transformation, knowledge and wisdom. It is indicative of self-renewal and positive changes
To see a snake or be bitten by one in your dream, signifies hidden fears and worries that are threatening you. Your dream may be alerting you to something in your waking life that you are not aware of or that has not yet surfaced. Alternatively, the snake may be seen as phallic and thus symbolize temptation, dangerous and forbidden sexuality. If you are afraid of the snake, then it signifies your fears of sex, intimacy or commitment. The snake may also refer to a person around you who is callous, ruthless, and can't be trusted. As a positive symbol, snakes represent healing, transformation, knowledge and wisdom. It is indicative of self-renewal and positive changes.

Tables full of snakes... many people around you that cant be trusted? Or that you feel you cant trust anyone?

To see a table in your dream, represents social unity and the potential for a meeting or gathering.It refers to your social and family connections. If the table is broken, wobbly or not functional, then it suggests some dissension in a group or sense of insecurity. Perhaps there is something you cannot hold inside any longer and need to bring it out in the open.

And lastly:

To see a boa constrictor in your dream, suggests that you are feeling suffocated or restricted in some personal relationship. Alternatively, it represents repressed sexual urges or hidden enjoyment of sex.

Any relationship of yours in trouble? Or heading towards a direction that oppress you?

As for the praying mantis that can be seen even with the eyes open I have no idea.

 

[RGG]

Hi Kila,

Snakes and Lizards were a common dream theme in my house hold- I even posted about it when I first joined the forum since my eldest was convinced she was being bitten by snakes while she was sleeping. I've noticed that more than anything, the EE program yields results whatever the reason behind all of the high strangeness. But for me it got worse before it got better and looking back now, I think I was causing panic in whatever it was by removing myself as a food source and the strangeness amplified as a last effort of control over me. So definitely keep up with the EE.

As for discussing it all in the open with my kids, I haven't ever out and out told them what I believe the reality of things is regarding 4D meddling since I'm worried they will never sleep again in their own beds. But I do remember in the C's first transcripts they clearly say to warn our children (p. 125 in High Strangeness) even though Laura expresses concern over telling children such awful things. I'm still not sure how to proceed on that one....

That's some pretty heavy stuff kila.....but saying that all too familiar.
I've had a few dreams recently where I've been fighting a shadowy figure in my dreams. One of which I posted a few days ago.

Very similar events to my past too.

About the only thing I can add is that working through and applying to myself the psychology books has helped reduce the high strangeness in my life.
I don't know if its reduced it in anyones life around me though....but it may do?
Learning about our machine and cleaning out all the programs and emotions and junk, as well as detoxing our physical bodies seems to give us at least some protection from these sort of interactions. There is a part of the Adventures series in which Laura describes one of these events that I think fits.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventures056.htm

The night before the new pictures were to be made, I was worried about being able to go to sleep due to the strange events surrounding the loss of my films as well as other matters. After lying down, I was just trying to be still and calm down the pain, knowing I wasn't going to be able to go to sleep. I was right in the middle of puzzling over those blasted MRI's, when the next thing I knew there was a sort of momentary "blank-spot" and I came to myself, only to discover that I was being floated out of bed, feet first, by 3 or 4 spidery creatures who had me by the ankle and were "pulling" on me.

I was struggling and resisting and apparently had been doing so even while asleep because I found that my paralyzed arm was extended up over my head and was locked on the brass headboard in a "deathgrip" and the bed was shaking and bouncing with the efforts of my resistance. It was virtually a tug of war and I wasn't going to let go!

I looked at them and the creepy little spider guys realized that I had awakened. One of them put its hand on my head and I felt a paralysis coming over me. I became very angry. I wanted to curse them. But it was impossible to resist this paralysis and that made me even madder! I was determined that, even if they had technology that could overcome all of my efforts of resistance, that at least I would give them a piece of my mind! I was going to have my say!

With enormous concentration, I was able to utter a strangled sound. It was not the defiant curse I was working on in my head, but anything was progress against the "frozen" sensation of my entire body. And, it had a startling effect! As soon as I uttered this incomprehensible, cave person type sound, they dropped me like a hot potato and began sort of flitting and chattering like a nest of birds with a cat climbing the tree. They huddled together and sort of melted into a "shimmery" curtain thing alongside my bed. It was much like the mirage effect one sees on the road ahead when driving on a hot day.

My heart was pounding from real exertion. I can't say that I was terrified because such a thing is beyond terror. And, I have always been a person who acts cleanly and efficiently in a crisis, so this was no different in that respect. What had been most useful was that I had the information from the Cassiopaeans because that certainly had a lot to do with not feeling terrified which is more often a reaction to the unknown. At least, to some extent, I had an idea of what I was dealing with, even if I preferred to believe that it had been a hypnogogic nightmare.

At one point, while I was fighting them, while the bed seemed to be bouncing and jerking, I was very conscious that it was not waking my husband up, and after the creatures had melted away, when I had turned to work at peeling my paralyzed hand away from the headboard, I was startled to see and feel three distinct, wave-like shudders pass through his body starting from the head and moving down. After the third one, he took a deep breath, and began to snore suddenly and loudly as though he started right in mid-snore.

What was troubling me was that he was not been moving at all, not even to breathe! It struck me with horror that he seemed to have been "turned off" in order to prevent his intervention! That he COULD be turned off scared me half to death! I had NO protection at all! Not only that, when I tried to tell him what had happened, he thought I was imagining it. I can assure you, it was NOT Imagination, though it may indeed have occurred in a hyperdimensional reality, and had not been a material event as we understand them.

I don't know if any of this helps at all...maybe someone with more knowledge of these things can comment?

Just to add my own experience in the whole matter, I had something similar happen while I was 7 months pregnant with my last baby. I was sleeping soundly one night when it seemed as though I was trying to race back to my body in order to wake myself up because something was trying to attack me. I did wake up full of Adrenalin but immediately started to become sleepy again. I tried to fight the sleepy feeling taking over me because i knew I was in danger but it was so difficult. As I started to fall asleep once again, I had a thought in my head,"I should just transition out and...(don't remember the rest of the thought but something akin to letting go)". And I did until it occurred to me that I never use that kind of terminology to describe falling asleep. Transition out??? who says that?! Well once I realized that whatever it was that was trying to put me to sleep also placed a thought in my head to make it seem like it was my idea, my eyes snapped open in protest to see a large 3 dimensional dark cloud hovering directly above me. It was completely terrifying but I held on to my fear and turned my head to the side in order to ignore it until it went away. Man was I pissed! It doesn't take much to wind up a hormonal pregnant women generally and the thought that this thing would do that to me and my unborn child was just over the top disgusting and place thoughts in my head on top of it! I was totally enraged but I have never had another episode of that nature since so maybe it was a bit of a showdown that i won.
Whatever the case, I think you have to identify and fight what is threatening you and maybe teach your kids to so the same FWIW.

I also agree with Redfox and her advice about the psychology books- I was hoping they would be able to help me too if I could ever get them! All 6 books i ordered, re-routed to Florida which is where i do NOT live

Rx

 

[Kila]

Another interesting piece.

So my husband had this spider dream when he was a kid, super vivid, ran into his parents room where the spiders were still chasing him, got into bed between his parents and could still see the spiders crawling on the bed and ceiling.

My oldest had the exact same dream at the same age about 4. I even had to get up and turn on all the lights and sit with her. And she still said she could see the spiders on the ceiling but they couldn't get us now.

I had a snake dream like that as a kid. And my middle child has the same exact dream at about the same age.

dunno



another piece was even though I sat up in bed and was extremely mad. As soon as the thing blew away I was very very sleepy but I made myself get up so I could post that question, because I was sure I would forget if I let myself go back to sleep.

 

[RedFox]

Appart from the fact that its terrifying, I find it really interesting.

I forgot to mention when I first replied, but your anger at what they where doing to you and your child and your desire to protect your child is what ended the situation...osit.

I've been musing about why 'the man behind the curtain' needs to stay hidden behind confusion, disinformation and fear. Why it seeks to marginalise its victims, to get them labeled crackpots so they don't network and compare data.
And I think perhaps it may be to do with exposing them to our collective awareness? If enough of us where aware of them, how they opporate and what they do to us...and our children. They'd be a huge number of humans with there protective parental instinct kicking in staring these things square in the eye. Perhaps that would put an end to there feeding/manipulation? fwiw

 

[Kila]

I'm beginning to wonder if everyone, at least the non OP's, aren't abducted, screwed with at some point. And if it doesn't begin as soon as consciousness starts to really unfold, say at about 2 years old.
Certainly, if we look to the old fables and myths it would appear so. All these traditions to protect children and babies from the baddies, whether they be spirits, fairies, demons etc. Not sure if any of these things have any effectiveness whatsoever. But I would agree with you that the push to debunk all the 'monsters' certainly does lead to lack of awareness.

I am reminded of the Disney movie Monsters Inc. I thought at the time that there was a great deal of truth in that little piece of propaganda but cleverly disguised. And of course today we tell our terrified children that, indeed, there are no monsters under their beds or in their closets, and what do you know, in a few years they stop 'seeing' them.

hmmmmmmm

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

I'm beginning to wonder if everyone, at least the non OP's, aren't abducted, screwed with at some point. And if it doesn't begin as soon as consciousness starts to really unfold, say at about 2 years old.
Certainly, if we look to the old fables and myths it would appear so. All these traditions to protect children and babies from the baddies, whether they be spirits, fairies, demons etc. Not sure if any of these things have any effectiveness whatsoever. But I would agree with you that the push to debunk all the 'monsters' certainly does lead to lack of awareness.

I am reminded of the Disney movie Monsters Inc. I thought at the time that there was a great deal of truth in that little piece of propaganda but cleverly disguised. And of course today we tell our terrified children that, indeed, there are no monsters under their beds or in their closets, and what do you know, in a few years they stop 'seeing' them.

hmmmmmmm

Hi Kila

I suspect that you're right about these things occurring from a very young age. One of my earliest memories is of being out of my body and I have clear memories of this happening. Throughout my early childhood I would describe the events to my parents as a 'strange dream' where I could see myself asleep from above or being pulled in or out of my body. I happened upon a 'supernatural' magazine when I was about eleven years old which had an article about Out of Body Experiences and immediately 'knew' that this was what I had experienced. Of course, this is where I was led up the garden path as from then on I always had the feeling late into my adult life that my experiences were ones that made me a 'spiritually inclined' or 'special' person perhaps with some kind of spiritual path mapped out for me. Of course after encountering Laura's work it was apparent that perhaps all was not as it seemed.

I think something of this nature may have happened to my own son about a year or so ago when he was nearly three. Normally a great sleeper, he awoke one night screaming and absolutely hysterical. Now this is a child that could win a tantrum competition on a good day but this was different. He was physically shaking like I've never seen and whilst he is normally very quick to come and be comforted when he's upset and generally a very tactile child he wouldn't let either myself or my wife pick him up to cuddle him or even touch him. This went on for over half an hour to the point where my wife was also in tears. My initial thought at the time was that his behavior was akin to someone who had been raped although I acknowledge that this is somewhat speculative on my part. It was basically a horrific to say the least and of course this was compounded by the fact that he couldn't/wouldn't express what had happened. He was also terrified to sleep in his own bed for about two weeks afterward.

In terms of informing children, as Rx has mentioned, the C's info suggests that Children should be informed and that the 'knowledge Protects' maxim applies. Of course this is down to parental choice and has to be addressed at the level of the child's understanding. My son is nearly four now, very inquisitive and asks occasionally about Ghosts and Aliens which he knows about from Storybooks/T.V etc. I haven't made a big deal of it but I've told him that they do exist and that some Aliens and Ghosts are 'baddies' and that if one ever tries to scare him or get him that he should tell them that they're not allowed . He seems quite comfortable with this and needless to say regards himself as a 'goody'. Part of me wonders if this is really the right approach. I mean, what do you tell your child about something that the rest of society just doesn't accept and has disregarded as 'wacko'? But of course we have to remember that one of the main reasons that 4D STS get away with it is because people will never feel the need to protect themselves from that which they couldn't possibly see as a threat or even existing in their wildest dreams....