So what's a Fedaykin anyway?

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I've never been able to make it through the Star Wars movies. Now that I have been promoted to Fedaykin, what is one?
 
In searching Star Wars Fedaykin on yahoo I got this from the first link:

"Fedaykin: Almost certainly based on the Arabic "Fedayeen" from The Qur'an. Fedayeen means "one who sacrifices himself" .. Hussein's most trusted soldiers.. called the Fedayeen. Yasser Arafat, addressing a press conference at the United Nations in 1983, called Jesus "the first Palestinian fedayeen who carried his sword."

I can't say it is even close to an actual factual definition as it is denoted in star wars language, I just thought it was interesting.
 
DonaldJHunt said:
Thanks, O Fellow Fedaykin. When do I learn the secret handshake?
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I think it will have something to do with chanting..? ;)
 
It is a dune reference, Fedaykin are the spiritual warriors of Muad'dib who defeat the Sardaukar of Shaddam, nevermind, it's a dune reference.
 
Thanks, A. I guess I need to read Dune. More than one person has told me this.

atreides said:
It is a dune reference, Fedaykin are the spiritual warriors of Muad'dib who defeat the Sardaukar of Shaddam, nevermind, it's a dune reference.
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I have a question on the symbolism, as I am reminded of Dune (the movie) now. Would that imply the warriors of Muad'dib who had voice? Dang Don 615 posts thats some voice :)
 
DonaldJHunt said:
I've never been able to make it through the Star Wars movies. Now that I have been promoted to Fedaykin, what is one?
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Congratulations, Donald! I was using sott Wonders search button and noticed that you are promoted to
Dagobah resident.
Dagobah is both a planet and the system in which it resides, in the Star Wars universe. It appears in the films The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. It also makes an appearance in a deleted scene from Revenge of the Sith.

Dagobah, in the Sluis sector, is a world of murky swamps, steaming bayous, and petrified gnarltree forests. The ubiquitous white spiders that roam the swamps are actually newly sprouted seedlings of the gnarltrees that will take root and grow.
After the extermination of the Jedi and his subsequent failure to defeat Darth Sidious and save the republic, Jedi Master Yoda went into voluntary exile on Dagobah. Here, Yoda lived near a cave strong with the dark side of the Force which balanced out his good side and kept him from detection by the Emperor.

Dagobah appears to be a harsh, humid environment, mostly covered in water. It is inhabited by many predators, including reptiles such as snakes, lizards, and bats and others that are actually portrayed by a monitor lizard. None of these build or use tools; Yoda is the only civilized (and possibly only sentient) inhabitant.
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The place might not been ideally suited for serene solitary meditation, hah? How it feels there?
 
DonaldJHunt said:
Thanks, A. I guess I need to read Dune. More than one person has told me this.
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I agree, Frank Herbert wrote some VERY interesting stuff and used an enormously wide lense to look at social structure, history and human interactions. It seems to be written about a time 'in the future' after mankind had overthrown the machines (computers) and had 'evolved' ways of compensating for what the machines used to do. They were lazy and had become enslaved by their own creations. Maybe Mr Herbert had his own 'vision of the future'?

The books are far more facinating and detailed than the film. And the language and philosopical depth are extrodinary.

Frank Herbert died in 1986. I haven't really 'studied' his work, but it seemed to me that he had a lot of 'sayings' and ideas which wer Arabic in flavour. And I wondered how much of their culture he had studied?

His son (Brian) in cooperation with K. Anderson has written some books to 'fill in' the 'gap' left by his father. It is rather remarkable that K. Anderson is "best known for his world-wide best-selling novels based on the universe of Star Wars and the X-Files[..] and (is) an expert of the US space programme, he worked at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory for ten years". (taken from "Prelude to Dune" by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson). Their style is very, very differnt from Frank's. More commercial and 'story book' than Frank's which was more oesoteric.

Frank Herbert's novels remind me a little of the 'sort' that JRR Tolkein wrote. Except they seemed to be much more a study of humanity (STS) and detailed in those respects.
 
Ruth said:
I agree, Frank Herbert wrote some VERY interesting stuff and used an enormously wide lense to look at social structure, history and human interactions. It seems to be written about a time 'in the future' after mankind had overthrown the machines (computers) and had 'evolved' ways of compensating for what the machines used to do. They were lazy and had become enslaved by their own creations. Maybe Mr Herbert had his own 'vision of the future'?

The books are far more facinating and detailed than the film. And the language and philosopical depth are extrodinary.
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You inspired me to read the book. Here is inspiring Dune prologue from extended 3 hours extended version of the movie.
Dune "The Prologue" p1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZMyjsGLkcQ

I also want to advert that Laura's work change how I perceive all those Hollywood sci-fi productions. Most of the movies promotes idea that you have to change the world using violence or psychological pressure, but Laura teach me how knowledge and intelligence can be used.
 
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