So, whats with all the Dinosaurs

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Actually the Bible does talk about Dinosaurs. If you go to http(colon)(slash)(slash)biblicalstudies(dot)qldwide(dot)net(dot)au(slash.....can't believe an Aussie posted this)scriptures_and_dinosaurs(dot)html also if you go to Dinosaur bones: Just how old are they at www(dot)answersingenesis(dot)org(slash)docs(slash)3947(dot)asp you may be surprised. People are always trying to prove the Bible wrong, thus far to me they have not succeeded.
This not only proves Dinosaurs, but also proves the 6000 year earth -v- the millions of years theory.
Pauline
 
The bible has been written and changed over the years in order to control people and stop them asking questions. It is meant to reinforce the power structure that is enforced on us BY that same power structure.

I don't know why a person would believe that an esoteric document (the Bible), which tells us things in the form of parables, should have anything to do with scientific facts. That doesn't negate any of the ideas that bible is famous for (presuming they are understood in the first place), but the Bible is an esoteric book, not a scientific book. You need to study science to find out facts, not the bible, unless you want to study how society is lied to and manipulated by power.

People who take esoteric literature as 'literally' factual are missing the points being made in the Bible. Perhaps there is a reason for this?
 
Pauline Wraith said:
People are always trying to prove the Bible wrong, thus far to me they have not succeeded.
I can tell you a story about something that happened 2000 yrs ago too, and no one could ever prove it wrong. So? Doesn't make my story true. I can tell you maybe 100 such stories, all will contradict one another, and none of them will ever be proven right or wrong. The proof of the pudding, is in the eating :)
 
Pauline Wraith said:
Actually the Bible does talk about Dinosaurs. If you go to http(colon)(slash)(slash)biblicalstudies(dot)qldwide(dot)net(dot)au(slash)scriptures_and_dinosaurs(dot)html also if you go to Dinosaur bones: Just how old are they at www(dot)answersingenesis(dot)org(slash)docs(slash)3947(dot)asp you may be surprised. People are always trying to prove the Bible wrong, thus far to me they have not succeeded.
This not only proves Dinosaurs, but also proves the 6000 year earth -v- the millions of years theory.
Pauline
You registered just to post this. The links you posted are full of nonsense. Even the supposed scientific statements are hearsay.

However, in a situation where the dinosaur bone has been prevented from being invaded by mineral-rich water, one would expect that over millions of years, even locked away from all bacterial agents, dinosaur bone would, in obeying the laws of thermodynamics,3 just disintegrate from the random motions of the molecules therein.
The above is a nonsense statement. You can believe whatever you want. Here we believe nothing. We look at evidence and facts. The pages you linked to if it proves something to you then you came to the wrong place. The simple fact that you registered just to post this nonsense is evidence and a fact to me that you are full of wishful thinking and would rather let others do your thinking for you than make an effort yourself to seek truth. That is not my belief either. It is my hypothesis based on the evidence you have provided in your actions and your posting. It could be otherwise. You may decide at sometime to think for yourself and that is open.

But I wonder and ask - What in the world are you here for? Do you wish to convert all us heathens to your blind belief? If you are trying to prove something to others here you are wasting your time and ours. If you are simply trying to prove something to yourself, then you must have some kind of doubt in these beliefs. If it is your path you do not have to prove anything to anyone but yourself.
 
I'm leaving it up....... for the time being after the freebie links were edited.

The Landover Baptist Church has a similar take on dinosaurs.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0101/bones.html

MOUNT CANYON IA - While hiking earlier this week, Landover Baptist Cub Scout Troop 183 stumbled upon the partially buried remains of what troop leader Harold Miller called, "a humongous demon." Late Saturday afternoon on the old limestone trail, Cub Scout, Timmy Walker, tripped over a five-foot row of perfectly preserved teeth and broke his leg. The troop backtracked after they discovered Timmy was missing. When they arrived at the scene, Mr. Miller and the boys scrambled to set Timmy's shin using one of the demon's teeth as a splint. "We then called Dr. Edwards on my digital phone to tell him we found demon bones, and about Timmy," said Mr. Miller. "He noted that 'even the bones of a demon could attack' and advised us to keep some distance." Within twenty minutes, Dr. Edwards arrived on the scene with two helicopters full of creation scientists.

The excavation took only three days. "We just wanted to hack the demon to pieces when we got there," said Dr. Edwards. "But we thought it was important to get a good look at it before we destroyed it." The fully intact skeleton of a 147-foot demon with a tail the size of a locomotive was eventually pulled out of the soft limestone and airlifted back to the church campus.

After all 172 pastors, 412 deacons, and 18 gold tithers had a chance to have their picture taken with their head inside the demon's mouth, the remains of the evil creature were doused with gasoline and burned until there was nothing left but ashes.
and this one

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0605/flyingdinos.html

For years, Creation Scientists have disputed how Noah was able to quickly collect millions of indigenous animals from remote, inaccessible regions of the world for a 40-day ride in his ark. New evidence from an archeological find in China supports the long held Christian belief that Noah's sons rode giant flying dinosaurs to transport duck billed platypuses from Australia, and penguins and polar bears from the Antarctic, to name a few. "Those must have been some mighty big flying dinosaurs," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "Imagine the look on Noah's face when his sons flew in for a landing with a pair of Hippos strapped to the back of one of them things! Glory to God!"
 
Johnno said:
I'm leaving it up....... for the time being after the freebie links were edited.

The Landover Baptist Church has a similar take on dinosaurs.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0101/bones.html

MOUNT CANYON IA - While hiking earlier this week, Landover Baptist Cub Scout Troop 183 stumbled upon the partially buried remains of what troop leader Harold Miller called, "a humongous demon." Late Saturday afternoon on the old limestone trail, Cub Scout, Timmy Walker, tripped over a five-foot row of perfectly preserved teeth and broke his leg. The troop backtracked after they discovered Timmy was missing. When they arrived at the scene, Mr. Miller and the boys scrambled to set Timmy's shin using one of the demon's teeth as a splint. "We then called Dr. Edwards on my digital phone to tell him we found demon bones, and about Timmy," said Mr. Miller. "He noted that 'even the bones of a demon could attack' and advised us to keep some distance." Within twenty minutes, Dr. Edwards arrived on the scene with two helicopters full of creation scientists.

The excavation took only three days. "We just wanted to hack the demon to pieces when we got there," said Dr. Edwards. "But we thought it was important to get a good look at it before we destroyed it." The fully intact skeleton of a 147-foot demon with a tail the size of a locomotive was eventually pulled out of the soft limestone and airlifted back to the church campus.

After all 172 pastors, 412 deacons, and 18 gold tithers had a chance to have their picture taken with their head inside the demon's mouth, the remains of the evil creature were doused with gasoline and burned until there was nothing left but ashes.
This provides a fine example of how history is manipulated by religious zealots (if it is, in fact a true occurence) and sheer ignorance-to think this kind of thing occurs in modern day society is unbelievable-absolutely mind boggling.

Demons??? I mean really. They may have destroyed the remains of an entirely unknown species- or those that could possibly have filled in the gaps in the fossil record linking a modern animal to it's ancient predecessor.

How many other important artifacts have been thusly destroyed-because it didn't "fit" someone's ideaology?

We already know that answer. Too many.

And the thing about Noah's sons riding on pterodactyls is a real hoot-and they call US crazy!

and this one

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0605/flyingdinos.html

For years, Creation Scientists have disputed how Noah was able to quickly collect millions of indigenous animals from remote, inaccessible regions of the world for a 40-day ride in his ark. New evidence from an archeological find in China supports the long held Christian belief that Noah's sons rode giant flying dinosaurs to transport duck billed platypuses from Australia, and penguins and polar bears from the Antarctic, to name a few. "Those must have been some mighty big flying dinosaurs," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "Imagine the look on Noah's face when his sons flew in for a landing with a pair of Hippos strapped to the back of one of them things! Glory to God!"
 
Pauline Wraith said:
Actually the Bible does talk about Dinosaurs.
Although I'm no scholar, I am somewhat familiar with the "written word"...
With all due respect...
Just because the Bible tells me so...
Well, not really, someone has to interpret and expound for me.?.?.?

For example, I saw a reference to this: (Genesis 7:13-14)
13 In the selfsame day entered1 Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth6 upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

I DO believe that ALL is possible... I really do...
But I prefer some more facts before I consider that dinosaurs were included with "every beast"...

Just speaking for myself here...
I can take a few scripture, and use them in my sermon/talk, whatever.
I can sway emotions, views, and opinions.
This can be done.
This has been done for thousands of years.
I know because I have also done so.
Let the precepts of man be spoken while using the written word.
I have seen the error of my ways.!.!.!
That Devil is gonna wrap that tail around me and drag me down to Hell.
Well...
That's what I was told.

And for a last thought, let's not forget this for discussion... (Genesis 1:26)
26 God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

Just who was "OUR", within "OUR IMAGE" anyway.?.?.?
I never did get to say what I wanted with that one...
Shoulda/Woulda/Coulda
 
I think that there are some profound truths hidden away in the bible. 'hidden' being the operative word!

To just take it ALL at face value, with no personal effort of discernment and evaluation , to me that would constitute not paying attention ... this little parody sums it up for me:

John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the sh*t out of you."

Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropists. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever he wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss his ass."

Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

Mary: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

Me: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

John: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

Me: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

Me: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

Mary: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the sh*t out of you."

Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

John: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

John: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

Me: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

Mary: "Well, he gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

Me: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

John: "Hank has certain 'connections.'"

Me: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

John: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the sh*t of you."

Me: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from him..."

Mary: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

Me: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

Me: "Who's Karl?"

Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

From the desk of Karl

1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
2. Use alcohol in moderation.
3. Kick the sh*t out of people who aren't like you.
4. Eat right.
5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything Hank says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don't use alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the sh*t out of you.

Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

Mary: "Hank didn't have any paper."

Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

John: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

Me: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the sh*t out of people just because they're different?"

Mary: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

Me: "How do you figure that?"

Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

Me: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

John: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

Me: "I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."

John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

Me: "We do?"

Mary: "Of course we do, Item 5 says so."

Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

Me: "But...oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"

Mary: She blushes.

John: "Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is wrong."

Me: "What if I don't have a bun?"

John: "No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."

Me: "No relish? No Mustard?"

Mary: She looks positively stricken.

John: (He's shouting.) "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"

Me: "So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"

Mary: Sticks her fingers in her ears. "I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la."

John: "That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."

Me: "It's good! I eat it all the time." (Mary faints.)

John: (He catches Mary.) "Well, if I'd known you where one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the sh*t out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."

With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.
:)

I highly recommend 'The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins' by Burton L Mack, for some alternative insights into the background, creation and history of the bible.
 
sleepyvinny said:
I highly recommend 'The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins' by Burton L Mack, for some alternative insights into the background, creation and history of the bible.
And that is for the New Testament. For information on the background of the Old Testament, you should read Laura's "Secret History of the World" and Reed's "Controversy of Zion". Both are very eye-opening.
 
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