socializing

[TOTEM36]

I came across a thread about someone who was upset about finding it hard to make new friends after originally being a popular person. Anyway a responder wrote this quote which i wanted to share:

"probably 99% of the people you'll meet throughout you life will be hypocrites, but you can't escape the craving for socializing so get used to it (hypocrisy, lies, fake people), life is not fair and it sucks, if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

 

[curious_richard]

I came across a thread about someone who was upset about finding it hard to make new friends after originally being a popular person.

I think there is a problem here. Making a friend is a long process. Being "popular" is superficial. There is no connection between the two.

"probably 99% of the people you'll meet throughout you life will be hypocrites, ...

That might be true. A lot of people behave poorly, even if they talk about doing good.

... but you can't escape the craving for socializing ...

That may be true or may be false. For example, I DO NOT crave socializing. I really HATE going to a party where there is more than six or seven people, unless i am a close friend of each and every one of them.

if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

No. A friend will not behave like that. The term "human nature" usually seems to be another word for psychopathy. Maybe your problem is not understanding the word "friend".

 

[Deleted member 8431]

[snip] life is not fair and it sucks, if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

Sounds like an easy thing to say to avoid having to look at ourselves in a mirror. It's easy to blame the entire population and even life itself for all the bad things happening in our lives. Much easier that looking at ourselves and realizing what part we play in the situation. I used to say this a lot in the past when I couldn't get what I wanted from others (mostly girls) until I realized I was part of the problem itself.

Peace.

 

[Carl]

[snip] life is not fair and it sucks, if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

Sounds like an easy thing to say to avoid having to look at ourselves in a mirror. It's easy to blame the entire population and even life itself for all the bad things happening in our lives. Much easier that looking at ourselves and realizing what part we play in the situation. I used to say this a lot in the past when I couldn't get what I wanted from others (mostly girls) until I realized I was part of the problem itself.

Peace.

And, FWIW, the term 'human nature' changes in meaning when we stop using the juvenile dictionary and start considering things like psychopaths, OP's, the fall and the predator's mind.

 

[anart]

I came across a thread about someone who was upset about finding it hard to make new friends after originally being a popular person. Anyway a responder wrote this quote which i wanted to share:

"probably 99% of the people you'll meet throughout you life will be hypocrites, but you can't escape the craving for socializing so get used to it (hypocrisy, lies, fake people), life is not fair and it sucks, if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

Sounds like the point of view of someone who is already dead.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

And, FWIW, the term 'human nature' changes in meaning when we stop using the juvenile dictionary and start considering things like psychopaths, OP's, the fall and the predator's mind.

Exactly!

Most people only tend to talk about that kind of "human nature" without ever trying to understand it. "It is how it is, there is no reason and we can't do anything about it" kind of attitude. Of course, that's exactly what the PTB want. "Don't worry, we are here to protect you against these whackos with our laws, seciruty measures, guns, bombs and prisons. If you obey us, you'll be fine". Oh well...

Also not to mention the mainstream idea of a psychopath being more or less solely someone who brutally murders everybody, rape children, torture people and blow themselves in public places. They seem to completely ignore the fact that psychopaths aren't necessarily physically violent beasts.

Sounds like the point of view of someone who is already dead.

Strong point there.

When I used to say those kind of things and had this general view of people and life in general, I was quite dead on the inside so to speak. It felt as if I wasen't even in control of myself anymore. At some point, I seriously thought I had became schizophrenic. And not so surprizingly, it eventually let me to have very strong suicidal thoughts.

I'm so glad this part of my life is over. Despite all this suffering, it led me to where I am now and I would never change that for anything in the world nor would I want to travel in the past to alter my current life.

Unfortunately though, not everyone gets to overcome these issues and many end up either doped up on meds, in prison, psych ward or cemetary.

Peace.

 

[Sirius]

Most people only tend to talk about that kind of "human nature" without ever trying to understand it. "It is how it is, there is no reason and we can't do anything about it" kind of attitude. Of course, that's exactly what the PTB want. "Don't worry, we are here to protect you against these whackos with our laws, seciruty measures, guns, bombs and prisons. If you obey us, you'll be fine". Oh well...

That's a good observation. This is quite the philosophy of someone who has already sold his soul to the devil, as I call it, i.e. someone who has adapted to the psychopathic world view (i.e. being dead).
People's trivialisations include quite often the idea of a fundamental equality between human beings which is just an empty assumption. It is not far from fabulation either.
There are so much more fabricated psychopathic thoughts out there, such as that there is no need for being healthy or that it is optional and not a requirement, that functioning is what counts (i.e. being a slave); also the idea that there has to be evil, corruption, fraud, etc. in some way. It's not about the recognition or acceptance thereof as a fact. The idea is that you have to stop fighting it and leave evil forces plunder you and others, to a certain extent at least. People also believe overly in chance (i.e. again "human nature", no responsibility to anyone; now crediting murder and inhuman behaviour to natural laws or "human nature" instead to God's word as it was the case in the past with religions). And so on.

 

[Muxel]

"probably 99% of the people you'll meet throughout you life will be hypocrites, but you can't escape the craving for socializing so get used to it (hypocrisy, lies, fake people), life is not fair and it sucks, if you make new friends they will ditch you or lie to you eventually (it) is human nature".

...Thus was Game Theory and Capitalism born.

; also the idea that there has to be evil, corruption, fraud, etc. in some way. It's not about the recognition or acceptance thereof as a fact. The idea is that you have to stop fighting it and leave evil forces plunder you and others, to a certain extent at least.

The above is ridiculously known as "being a realist". As in: "Hey, I'm being a realist here."

The classic Game Theory setting is quite apt. Indeed we are inmates in a prison. There are inmates who, being weak, succumb and say, "If you can't fight it, join it." But I imagine the hyperdimensional reality must extract its quota of negative energies from these inert beings anyhow - so perhaps that will happen in one fell swoop like an extinction event. Then there are inmates who are strong, who resist. Theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven (i.e. freedom).

 

[Scottie]

There are inmates who, being weak, succumb and say, "If you can't fight it, join it." But I imagine the hyperdimensional reality must extract its quota of negative energies from these inert beings anyhow...

Yup. But that's like deciding that, since we can't do anything to change the bad things about this world because we're so little, we won't actually agree with or promote the bad things, but we'll just sort not fight it because there's no point...

Which is the whole "I'm not going to make a choice" thing that is, in fact, making a choice to "quietly support" the bad stuff.

I think the vast majority of negative energies comes from this kind of person who fools himself into thinking he is not supporting evil, when in fact he is.

And that's where all the mind-numbing stuff comes into play, like endless movies, video games, entertainment news, social networks, sports, and so on.

The majority is not required to do evil; they are only required to give their silent, obedient consent.

 

[Sirius]

If one does not think for himself, someone else will do it on behalf of oneself. If one does not choose or does not want to choose, someone else will make the decision. And that's where evil can easily enter the picture.
Like the saying “never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream.”