Some objective perspective on these life events?

[MrGullible]

I ask for some objective guidance or perspective on some life events that have happened since I started working towards getting my head "clear" in terms of being more objective and understanding what is really going on.

For background context -- Over the past year, works of Laura and others have started opening my eyes to now much I don't know and I've been reading the Cassiopeia.org material and the sott.net material as time permits. I've also ordered some of the recommended books and have completed the first read of "History of the World" and have started the first psych book "Gifted?" (can't remember off hand). Particularly at night I have been looking back over my thoughts of the day and trying to teach myself to not become so immediately deeply subjective as soon as I wake. Also, I joined these forums a few weeks ago but have been mainly reading.

During the past year when I was doing the above things, the following has happened in my life:

1) Lost my very dear "My Hero" grandfather
2) Lost my other grandfather
3) Lost one of my best friends
4) Almost lost my very dear grandmother (and she is still in bad shape)
5) Lost my job (just recently)
6) Many more minor negative type things that are out of the norm of my past experiences (things like many vehicle problems with relatively new vehicles, increased house repairs, pet injuries, etc.)

Being completely uneducated in the deeper meanings of karma and other esoteric concepts and possible influences leads me to present the above information because I can't understand if there might be any associations with what I'm doing (right or wrong) or if it is "just a run of bad luck".

My wish is to learn something from this such as if these events could be some type of "indicators" that I'm not sensitive to, or something else that someone with deeper understanding might immediately recognize.

I should mention that emotionally it hasn't made me a basket case or put me in a permanent "downer" state, but it *is* slowly wearing on me and I seek to understand more, from any angle.

Any observations or comments will be received with gratitude.

Thanks.

 

[Mountain Crown]

It seems that recent circumstances are making comfort or complacency more difficult.

The following may be of interest to you:

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=684&lsel=S

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=140&lsel=B

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=440&lsel=L

Your request for help in objectively understanding these issues suggests a certain degree of health in which you may feel hopeful.

 

[anart]

You also might want to consider the role of the General Law in all of this as well -

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=29&lsel=G

The system is designed to stop those who try to awaken - this is a very real thing. Hang in there, one of the goals of fusing a real 'I' is to move outside the Law of Accident - where the General Law has no hold. It is a long process, but improvements in such things do occur incrementally (at least in my understanding).

 

[Laura]

You also might want to consider the role of the General Law in all of this as well -

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=29&lsel=G

The system is designed to stop those who try to awaken - this is a very real thing. Hang in there, one of the goals of fusing a real 'I' is to move outside the Law of Accident - where the General Law has no hold. It is a long process, but improvements in such things do occur incrementally (at least in my understanding).

Especially read the above. You don't know how many times people have written to say that as soon as they started becoming aware, all sorts of attacks were launched against them of one sort or another. Of course, it usually happens in a more or less "normal life context," but the numbers of "bad luck" events just simply passes coincidence.

"Strait is the gate and narrow the way..."

Keep in mind that a "strait pass" is "a bad or difficult situation or state of affairs." Also remember the challenges that face those on the "Quest."

It would be useful if, as soon as you can, you read Mouravieff's Gnosis trilogy. You CAN turn back now, go back to sleep, with little problem, you know. But there does come a point where it is no longer possible and you need to assess that in advance.

 

[MrGullible]

Mountain Crown, thank you for the links and comments.

It seems that recent circumstances are making comfort or complacency more difficult.

The following may be of interest to you:

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=684&lsel=S

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=140&lsel=B

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=440&lsel=L

Your request for help in objectively understanding these issues suggests a certain degree of health in which you may feel hopeful.

I will be reading them today.

 

[MrGullible]

You also might want to consider the role of the General Law in all of this as well -

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=29&lsel=G

The system is designed to stop those who try to awaken - this is a very real thing. Hang in there, one of the goals of fusing a real 'I' is to move outside the Law of Accident - where the General Law has no hold. It is a long process, but improvements in such things do occur incrementally (at least in my understanding).

Thank you, Anart. I will do more reading in that area.

I have some comments on how effective I think this "approach by the bad forces" toward me is, but would commenting on or revealing things about myself when seeking further guidance give more ammo? For example, if I said "I'm glad that my pet tree hasn't died or that would really send me down" here on the forum, would that aid "the enemy" so to speak?

 

[MrGullible]

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It would be useful if, as soon as you can, you read Mouravieff's Gnosis trilogy. You CAN turn back now, go back to sleep, with little problem, you know. But there does come a point where it is no longer possible and you need to assess that in advance.

Thank you, Laura. I have located 2 Mouravieff books on Amazon:

"Gnosis: The Mesoteric Cycle (Book 2)"
and
"Gnosis Book Three, the Esoteric Cycle: Study and Commentaries on the Esoteric Tradition of Eastern Orthodoxy (Gnosis)"

Are those part of the trilogy? (the naming is inconsistent and therefore confusing). They don't seem to have Book 1, however I did download a PDF of book 1 from scribd. I am going to hunt an English version of Book 1 that I can order because I like to read printed material and I'm not sure that the PDF is free from copyright restrictions.

 

[MrGullible]

After reading the links you all provided above I started thinking of this negative "attack" approach from a different angle. That angle is along the lines of:

1) What will happen next? Can I anticipate it?
2) Should I try to anticipate the outcomes and develop some notion of how I should react to a given outcome?

I didn't mention above but my Mother-In-Law is now in a very bad fight with Breast Cancer and has already almost died once from some intestinal infection. Each new chemo treatment (now after her second) seem to allow the infection to come back.

Would it be wise to play "what if" scenarios with this? For example, if she doesn't make it what affect will it have on me, my wife, our marriage? How should I react to the effects? How can I tell if it is more negative stuff being thrown my way?

Or, do you find it might be just best to let things play out and try not to ponder the possibilities and just react to what happens, when it happens?

 

[Nienna]

Hi MrGullible,

Here is something that the C's said about "attack" that might be helpful.

Q: Well, you knew that there was a lot wrong in the
beginning, but you thought that it would be different.
Q: Ark's mother is sick. Will she be better soon?
A: Wait and see.
Q: He is carrying a very heavy burden just now, and I am
concerned for him.
A: Does this surprise you? Unfortunately, Ark still does not
completely know this program.
Q: Are you suggesting that this sickness of his mother's has
been caused from 4th density STS?
A: Lesson number 1: Always expect attack. Lesson number
2: Know the modes of same. Lesson number 3: Know how
to counteract same.
Q: When a person is sick, old and one's mother... the only
thing to do is take care of it. But, I guess that it is true that
anything that tends to cause interference in doing what one is
here to do could be considered attack. Whether it is your
mother being sick, or your kid falling off a bicycle and
breaking his arm. It is all related to lack of vigilance on the
part of the one who is the conduit of attack.
A: When you are under attack, expect the unexpected, if it is
going to cause problems...
Q: So, if there is something that can cause problems, expect it
to happen.
A: But, if you expect it, you learn how to "head it off," thus
neutralizing it. This is called vigilance, which is rooted in
knowledge. And, what does knowledge do?
Q: Protects! Is there anything I can do to help?
A: How so?
Q: Well, I don't know. I guess that a person just has to come
to the full realization that virtually everything that happens on
the planet - no exceptions - is a symbol of some interaction of
STS vs. STO energy at higher levels.
A: Yes, and that is not as of yet realized. It must be part of a
natural learning process.
Q: Well, I guess that all of us tend to keep one or another
area sacrosanct and think that it is not subject to attack, or
that we can use logic and 3rd density thinking to explain it.
Until a person realizes that attack can come through even
one's self, wives and husbands, children and parents, friends,
virtually ANYBODY - NOBODY is exempt.
A: The block is a lack of faith in the concept. Remember,
when one has been indoctrinated by religion, culture and/or
science, they are predisposed to view all things in the sense of
the measurable physical reality exclusively.
Q: Well, in Ark's case, is something going to happen for him
that will give him a view under the surface, so to speak?
A: Please do not anticipate. This is a logjam of "quantum"
proportions.
Q: Well, I think he is cured of thinking that certain people can
be helped.
A: But he is not cured of his lack of faith in the reality of
non-physical attack.

Also, here is some information on the General Law and Attack. :)

 

[MrGullible]

Thank you, Nienna. I will attempt to remain vigilant in order to recognize any tidbits that might indicate attack, although at this stage I have no idea what mechanism or thought process might assist in countering.

 

[Cyre2067]

Thank you, Nienna. I will attempt to remain vigilant in order to recognize any tidbits that might indicate attack, although at this stage I have no idea what mechanism or thought process might assist in countering.

It really is as the C's say, Always expect attack, Know methods of same, Know how to counteract same. For example, if you have small children - provide as much supervision for them as possible. Read up on sexual predators and how they operate (martha stout's the sociopath next door is an excellent resource there). If you work in a business environment that is competitive you might want to read up about psychopathy in the corporate environment - Snakes in Suits by Hare & Babiak would be apropos for that. Any addictions? Those are easily portals of attack and distraction. Health issues? Check out the Diet and Health section....

Any vigilance is going to have to be custom tailored to your life and environment. Since none of us here are you we can't really anticipate how you'll be attacked. I wouldn't get caught up in 'What If' scenario's - those aren't helpful, but do try to see the potential results of the actions you take, especially if it could result in an attack. Take extra precautions, and leave as little to chance as possible.

and remember - Learning is Fun :D

 

[Nienna]

Thank you, Nienna. I will attempt to remain vigilant in order to recognize any tidbits that might indicate attack, although at this stage I have no idea what mechanism or thought process might assist in countering.

Basically, as Autobot said, look around you at what could possibly hurt you or draw you back to sleep, then learn about it as best you can so that you know what to do to either prevent it before it happens or know what to do when it happens.

Remember, "knowledge protects, ignorance endangers." Anything that looks/feels not quite right probably isn't.

But reading up on how these things work will help you understand things better. Also, have you read the Adventures with Cassiopaea and The Wave, yet?

There is quite a bit about the attacks that Laura and Ark went through that gives a general idea of what they learned from it. And, heck, they are full of a lot of important information.

Oh, and never think that, "Hey, I'm a nobody, who would care if I am starting the Work?" Because as the C's say, "Nobody is a Nobody!" When the Matrix becomes aware of you wanting to wake up and really see what is going on, it will do whatever it takes to put you back to sleep so the feeding can continue.

And not all attacks are ATTACKS. It could be something like a distraction to get you to go back to sleep. So stay vigilant and learn as much as you can. As Autobot said, learning is fun!

 

[MrGullible]

Thank you both for you insights!

Autobot, I was blindly expecting attacks through external things, and I didn't think about my known (i.e. that I am acutely aware of) personal weaknesses, of which addictions and health are both prominent.

Nienna, I have read both of the sets you mention and I hope I have gleaned some ways to be instinctively sensitive to some methods. It has been a while since I read them, but I can't recall any instances where an "attack" was noted and prevented or averted as opposed to analyzed and learned from after the fact. Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, or have the wrong expectation of what can be achieved. I'm simplistically imagining at this moment something along the lines of "If the bad stuff decides to attack me by killing my Mother-In-Law, how can I recognize it and more importantly how can I stop them from killing her". I may be thinking in means that are way to worldly and physical.

 

[Hildegarda]

"If the bad stuff decides to attack me by killing my Mother-In-Law, how can I recognize it and more importantly how can I stop them from killing her". I may be thinking in means that are way to worldly and physical.

this topic has really made me think. I have some trouble accepting that the Universe, or GL, would purposely harm and kill another individual with his\her own life path and set of lessons, just to teach another person not to stick their neck out too much.

well, I guess it can. My question is though, should we view everything bad that happens to people around us as a sign to us personally, and think ourselves responsible in one way or the other? You can see how this could lead towards an YCYOR type of thinking. Where does the boundary lie?

 

[spyraal]

this topic has really made me think. I have some trouble accepting that the Universe, or GL, would purposely harm and kill another individual with his\her own life path and set of lessons, just to teach another person not to stick their neck out too much.

well, I guess it can. My question is though, should we view everything bad that happens to people around us as a sign to us personally, and think ourselves responsible in one way or the other? You can see how this could lead towards an YCYOR type of thinking. Where does the boundary lie?

That is a good question indeed. After giving some thought to it, i think a good place to start before considering the bad things that happen to people around us as a personal sign (which still might be the case of course), is first having the attitude of trying to learn from observing the mistakes of others. The fact that some people around us, or even ourselves maybe, are available for becoming a conduit of attack to someone else, is probably due to a general or temporary lack of free will and awareness. It makes sense to me for any nonphysical attack to be carried through the most available "subject". Maybe it is like the Matrix movie, where random characters who were still connected to the machine could become or be replaced temporarily by agents to execute a task. Thus, If every attack we witness can strengthen us in a way by becoming a personal reminder of how vigilant, concentrated and aware we should try to be at all times, then maybe this way a final "account" of the attack might prove that it was more beneficial even though damaging to an extend. Maybe that is a way to neutralize some of these attacks or at least "transmute" some of their negativity into something positive.

Still, the thought of someone being manipulated with problems, sickness or even death because someone else (or us) is trying to escape the General Law is upsetting (to say the least!), but this might be how things work in a grand scale and maybe this comes to be one of the greatest pains we have to bear through our lives... Just some thoughts on this. Thank all for your input on this thread.

:)