Some thoughts about public health

Yas

The Living Force
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Hi all,

I wanted to share some thoughts about an experience I had recently. For a context, I've been sick and I had to stay at a public hospital, but what I want to tell you about is what I discovered about the health system in my country.

I haven't got a private insurance ATM, so I am relying on the public health insurance. This health insurance isn't free, its money comes from tax payers, so I pay 10% of my salary each month and my employer also has to pay a percentage for each employee. This tax is called the IPS fee (IPS stands for Social Prevision Institution in Spanish) and it includes health insurance and pension for retirement after 25 years of contribution.

So, I've been paying this tax since I started working 8 years ago, which means that I have mandatory health insurance that covers absolutely everything... And I mean everything really. For example, if I need surgery, I don't have to spend a pence, if I need to stay at the hospital for whatever amount of time, I don't have to pay for it, if I need medicine, I get it for free (unless the medicine isn't available, which is a problem I'm going to tell you about later).

Isn't it amazing? And I tell you more, if you're sick and a physician thinks you need 10 days of rest (sick leave), be it at the hospital or at home, they give you a certificate for your job AND they pay you for those days you couldn't work!!! I didn't know this and I was truly surprised when I found out. Employers are supposed to pay as well, but most of them don't do it, so this institution pays you based on an average of what you earn per day of work.

I was truly pleased to learn there is such an insurance, since this service is used by most people in my country, even people who aren't tax contributors themselves, because if you have family members who aren't tax payers (e.g. children or people who don't have a formal job), they can benefit from your insurance as well.

The downside of it comes to corruption that is widely spread in my country (and mostly everywhere). I've come to see how the employees there try hard to be excellent, they are empathetic and responsible, they work really hard and their salary is very low. There's also a lack of medicine and beds, the system is overdue because of this and therefore its bureaucracy is also HUGE, unfortunately. This comes because, as usual, people at the top steal a great deal of money coming from tax payers and the government budget. And that's so sad and infuriating. Imagine just how amazing this system could be if there wasn't that kind of corruption where greedy unconscious people steal from something that is so crucial as public health. And I suppose this applies to every country.

I stayed in a room with other people there, and even though I knew that public health is so important, I now realized with this experience how crucial it really is. Private health care is unbelievably expensive and greedy people there are out of any control (e.g. they can say you need a surgery just because they will be paid more with that, and when you are so desperate with pain, you usually say "YES, open up! Do whatever you need to"). In this public hospital, people get surgeries and everything they need for free, and many lives are saved thanks to it. They are also more ethical, so they want to make sure if it's really necessary to go to surgery (well, that's also because there is limited budget). But still there are people that lack so much in conscience that they are capable of stealing from this life saving institution that helps so many people in this country... now that's what psychopathy and ponerization stand for. And it makes me sad…

Yet, overall, I'm grateful for learning this and I wanted to share the experience just as another “look at the world”, I hope it isn't too irrelevant.
 
Thanks for sharing your experiences Yas, it is always shock when we come face to face with the ridiculousness of the pathological system at play. And you are right to point out that this system is corrupt in most if not all places.
 
Its not just in Spain. I live in Macedonia and situation in Public health is even worst.For example , public hospital rooms looks like disaster and they dont have any medicines. If you go there , the doctors will tell you what you need and you have to go to the pharmacy to buy the drugs and bring them in hospital so they can treat you. I saw that when my father was in hospital for a few days.
On the other hand , private health clinics are very, very expensive and their rooms look like luxury hotel rooms. But one MRI for example in those clinics cost as much as a regular month salary.
So only those who have a lot of money could afford it.
Its not just Spain or just Macedonia. Its everywhere. The whole system is corrupted.In fact , today the whole medicine as a science is corrupted.
They have made a business of it , and you cant expect that it can be good since now we are just a customers for them.
Public health should be brought back to the people, it should be free, efficient, and available to all people.
 
Yes Konstantin, I think the whole system is upside down. But I was impressed to see that there even is such a system in my country.

It is not in Spain, but Paraguay, a small country in the centre of Latin America, that is poor and its government isn't one of the progressive governments that we had in Latin America until recently. I would have never expected to have a place where people can have health attention for free over here, so that's why the finding is kind of bittersweet. On one side, I'm glad that there is at least something like that that is actually working and many people are benefiting from it, but on the on the other side, I think about what it could have been if these greedy psychos weren't allowed to rule and steal the money from something as crucial as public health, and it makes me sad and angry.

I don't know how long it is going to last though. From what I hear and read here, this institution got to where it is during the government of our former president who was a bit progressive and was overthrown by a "soft Coup", very similar to what they are attempting in Brazil now. People say that this institution got really good during his government and that it is decaying now. And the current government wants to change policies regarding the retirement pensions, so that they can steal our pensions as well. It doesn't seem, then, that things will get any better, as you say... not here, nor almost anywhere in the world. :(
 
Yas said:
I don't know how long it is going to last though. From what I hear and read here, this institution got to where it is during the government of our former president who was a bit progressive and was overthrown by a "soft Coup", very similar to what they are attempting in Brazil now. People say that this institution got really good during his government and that it is decaying now. And the current government wants to change policies regarding the retirement pensions, so that they can steal our pensions as well. It doesn't seem, then, that things will get any better, as you say... not here, nor almost anywhere in the world. :(

Thanks for sharing, Yas. It's an excellent example of how imperial meddling both directly and indirectly ruins lives. Your post made me want to look more into this 'soft coup' and I found this:

The US also supported a 2009 coup that overthrew elected Honduran president Manuel Zelaya, who had raised the minimum wage paid by US corporations in the textile industry and blocked privatisations. In the past decade, it has also been implicated in failed coup attempts against elected governments in Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador.

However, whether the key movers were the Paraguayan oligarchs or US forces is a secondary consideration. The US state and US corporations operate through local intermediaries — the Paraguayan oligarchy — and have made no effort to conceal their intentions to use the recent coup to advance their agenda.

The coup has provided the US with a golden opportunity to work to reverse its declining influence in the region — and send a clear message to those willing to challenge its interests.

Paraguay is nestled between South America’s two largest economies — Argentina and Brazil — and its membership of regional integration bodies such as the Union of South American Nations (Unasur) and the Common Market of the South (Mercosur) gives it strategic importance for US interests.

By removing Lugo via an illegitimate coup only nine months out from elections, the US and its allies sent a message that, having lost the ability to keep control through formal democratic means, they are willing to use others.

The coup also gave the US an opportunity to escalate its military presence in the region.

The same day Lugo was impeached by Congress, a delegation of Paraguayan politicians, led by the head of the parliamentary defence committee and opposition member Jose Lopez Chavez, met with US military chiefs to negotiate the establishment of a US military base in the Chaco region.

Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/paraguay-us-sponsored-soft-coup/31928

Anything to keep the people down and psychopaths/corruption firmly in control. Well anyways, I hope that you're feeling better!
 
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