Spelling, dyslexia, and being 'lazy'

[RedFox]

I recently had a PM exchange with 3D Resident where I learnt something rather interesting about myself, and with permission given from 3D Resident to paste them here I'd like to share it with the forum. Also, it may be useful in another regard as the 'predators mind' does like to hide in the shadows away from the network.

Hi RedFox

Your input has been most valuable and I always read your posts with interest. The only thing about your posts which I have noticed consistently and which requires improvement is your use of the words there, their and they're, as well as you're and your. (Check out _http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They're and _http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your for some helpful tips.)

I know this might sound quite trivial in the scheme of things, however the better we all write, the clearer will be our communication, and the easier it will be for everyone to understand what's being said. Also don't forget that there are a lot of people on these boards for whom English is not their first language and who are currently in the process of learning English, so using certain words incorrectly will only add to their confusion and make it that little bit harder for them to understand what's being said.

Hi 3D Resident

Thanks for pointing that out (and taking the time to do so)!
I had forgotten about that problem many years ago (I'm dyslexic, so have had trouble with spellings), I've always had trouble with there/their. I will check out the links and do my best to improve this.
I must admit the "your you're" was probably me rushing a little. Whoops.

If its not much to ask, should you notice any other consistant spelling problems I'd be grateful if you point them out. Ironically my ability to spell correctly has improved no end from posting here! Hopefully those are the last spellings I need to look at.

I do note that sometimes I have had problems relaying things clearly (usually I don't notice until much later), it always seems clearer in my head than when I write it down. Just posting here is a lesson in external considering :)
I will add spellings to my overall self checking when posting.

Kind regards

RedFox

Hi RedFox

I have a cousin who is dyslexic, so I certainly understand the problem. Despite this, it hadn't occurred to me beforehand that you might have a problem like dyslexia, and so I proceeded with my message as if you might just be "slack". So if I feel the need to point out language errors in future to another person, I will be that much more conscious of the possibility that the person may have dyslexia, and so I will change my approach somewhat.

After I sent that private message to you, I actually felt a little bit "guilty", brought about be feelings of "I'm so petty" and "how trivial", especially in the scheme of things. However your reply has made me change my perspective on that, and it has been a lesson for both of us!

As you wish, I will point out any further inconsistencies I notice. One that springs to mind right now is "it's" and "its". I'm sure WikiHelp has a link of those words also. However, I will understand fully if you still have trouble with certain words. I must say, though, that despite your dyslexia, you still write very well. Your spelling is excellent.

And even though my spelling is generally quite good, I admit that I still get words wrong. Luckily I'm using a Macintosh computer, which checks spelling as you type, no matter what application you're using at the time. This includes typing in internet forums. So I do cheat in that department!

Anyway, happy "Working"!!!

Kind regards,

3DR

Hi 3D Resident

I have a cousin who is dyslexic, so I certainly understand the problem. Despite this, it hadn't occurred to me beforehand that you might have a problem like dyslexia, and so I proceeded with my message as if you might just be "slack". So if I feel the need to point out language errors in future to another person, I will be that much more conscious of the possibility that the person may have dyslexia, and so I will change my approach somewhat.

After I sent that private message to you, I actually felt a little bit "guilty", brought about be feelings of "I'm so petty" and "how trivial", especially in the scheme of things. However your reply has made me change my perspective on that, and it has been a lesson for both of us!

It's funny how these interaction can highlight our own programs. I did detect that I was reacting whilst writing the reply so edited it. I debated as to whether (weather/whether - that another one, I just looked it up!) or not to mention the dyslexia, I'm glad I did because I can now see it was still a reaction......this is important.
The "slack" you mention, I now realise triggered the "I'm dyslexic" comment. I can be very lazy at times, and it dawned on me that I was called "lazy" before being diagnosed as dyslexic. So it seems dyslexia, the learning of words (and perhaps my attitude to work/Work and learning in general) and the concept of laziness (and me "being mostly lazy") are all intwined! It is time I untangled this mess. One does not imply the other.
When I was a kid I had trouble remembering the spellings/meanings of words, I have not tested this since then and had assumed "I had not changed" in this regard, so I tested this after your message and you know what? I have changed and I can remember spellings/meanings! This may not seem like a big deal to most (perhaps?) but for me this is pretty amazing.
To brake a personal negative (self limiting) belief I took as gospel (and as such had forgotten it existed) is amazing. Learning is fun!
This really has got at some core things for me! I never realised how much of a crutch my dyslexia (and hence 'laziness' that I couldn't alter) was for me. Wow.

As to my spelling, I use the spell check every time I post.....after your message however I used it, then manually went and corrected the spelling myself, so as to learn the correct spelling (i.e. not be lazy in that regard). It is good to know (again linked to all the above I think) that I write well, it is something I did not think I was capable about myself until now osit.

To realise it was a self limiting belief and not me that was the 'problem' is mind blowing.

Perhaps we should post this discussion on the forum as it has been so enlightening to me, other may find it useful?

Kind regards

RedFox

Hi Redfox

I'm very glad to see that you have gained something positive from this experience! Clearly it's gone well beyond merely correcting spelling/grammatical errors, since, as you said, in the past you have allowed your dyslexia and "laziness" to somehow become entangled, to the point where it became difficult to distinguish one problem from the other. By overcoming your "laziness", you have revealed to yourself the *true* extent of any dyslexia, which is a very positive step towards doing real Work, or so it seems to me. After all, Work requires one to banish laziness.

As for me, I will admit now that the primary reason for pointing out those errors to you was because they really irritated ME. I know it has benefited you in the end, but that was not my primary motivation. In other words, it was purely STS-motivated. I didn't really care how you solved the problem, as long as you solved it, so I didn't have to suffer the annoyance of seeing your mistakes. I am quite ashamed that I felt this way, and afterwards I realised that my primary motivation should have been STO-oriented -- in other words, helping someone with something so that it benefits that person, as well as others in this particular case. This might account for my feelings of guilt that I felt afterwards which I mentioned earlier. I felt guilty because deep down I knew that my primary motivation was not STO. And you will note in my original post to you, that I veiled the true STS intent of the message by claiming that it will benefit people who are learning English. In truth, I didn't really care how it was going to benefit others, all I cared about was the fact that it would benefit me! (However, the primary reason for making the message private, instead of public, was due to the fact that I didn't want to "embarrass" you. So perhaps I wasn't being 100% STS.)

Anyway, a valuable lesson to both of us. Feel free to copy and paste our private conversations into the main discussion forum for others to learn from.

Kind regards,

3D Resident

Something from the last reply I just wanted to note

This might account for my feelings of guilt that I felt afterwards which I mentioned earlier.

This could well be the predators mind/negative introject feeding off you having led you into a STS trap. It gets you to beat yourself up so as to feed off you.

(However, the primary reason for making the message private, instead of public, was due to the fact that I didn't want to "embarrass" you. So perhaps I wasn't being 100% STS.)

Actually, I think it may be the predators mind that did not want to be exposed that made it private fwiw
Hopefully others may be able to comment on what neither of us have spotted?

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Something from the last reply I just wanted to note

This might account for my feelings of guilt that I felt afterwards which I mentioned earlier.

This could well be the predators mind/negative introject feeding off you having led you into a STS trap. It gets you to beat yourself up so as to feed off you.

Agreed, and it never occurred to me to look at it like that.

(However, the primary reason for making the message private, instead of public, was due to the fact that I didn't want to "embarrass" you. So perhaps I wasn't being 100% STS.)

Actually, I think it may be the predators mind that did not want to be exposed that made it private fwiw
Hopefully others may be able to comment on what neither of us have spotted?

That thought actually did occur to me after I sent the last message. I'm glad it's been pointed out now.

 

[anart]

I'm just curious, after the in-depth discussion on the forum about why the Personal Message system should not be used, why a PM conversation took place at all?

 

[RedFox]

I'm just curious, after the in-depth discussion on the forum about why the Personal Message system should not be used, why a PM conversation took place at all?

Forum Personal Messages and Predators

With the advent of our new forum, we now have the capability to send personal messages to other forum members. This can be a good thing, or a bad thing. The internet is filled to the brim with predators, as is 'real life' - sexual predators, emotional predators, psychological predators - and this forum, being public, is not immune to such types. In fact, due to the nature of what we discuss, it attracts them.

For this reason, this post is a strong reminder that just because someone in a member of this forum does NOT mean they are 'safe'. While 'off-list' contact between those doing the Work is highly discouraged due to the high likelihood for manipulation and emotional feeding (conscious or unconscious) on both parts, personal messaging on the forum presents an even more dangerous situation since this is a public venue and not a 'school' per se.

This is mostly a notice for new members, since long time members fully understand the dynamic and issues that can arise from private communication. If you ever receive a personal message from someone on this board that makes you even vaguely uncomfortable - or if you have no idea why you received it (you don't 'know' the person, it was just 'idle chit chat' or 'flirting' or 'fishing for information' ) then please notify a moderator so the situation can be taken care of.

Unfortunately, such measures are necessary in this world, where sheep walk among wolves - so - as always - knowledge protects and remember to be vigilant at all times! :)

Honestly, I don't know. This is quite perplexing..... I feel I may have let myself/the forum down in some way?
I had read and was aware of that post about PM's when it was made. I have even reported a PM in the past because of the above thread.
I guess I didn't see any danger in replying to 3D Residents PM.....perhaps this then was quite a foolish thing to do.

I do not wish to encourage such communications, far from it....it just seemed to bring something to light in me that was such an old program I'd not even questioned it until that point, I was pretty exited about it and wanted to share the exchange in case anyone else has similar issues and it may be of help. Perhaps this was just inner considering on my part??

Now I am just confused, and quite worried I could forget the warning about PM's to the point where I felt it did not apply in my situation.
Perhaps there was some 'be nice' program in all this...that and it did press a button (hence the examination of what it pushed).

I don't know what to say...this is quite a shock to me.

*edit*
Did I do wrong by posting this?

 

[anart]

Well, I think bringing the PM conversation to the forum was the right thing to do - and, in doing so, you have a chance to further investigate your (and 3D resident's) motivations, so this is also good. I realize that it might seem like making a mountain out of a molehill - all the warnings about using PM on this forum - but until one has seen first hand the damage that can result from communication outside the eyes of the network (especially on a public forum) then it really can be very hard to understand. When discussing energetic feeding or influence, it can very much seem like 'much ado about nothing' - but it isn't - the 'reality of non-physical attack' cannot be overstated. I think this thread is always a good reminder of what is possible in this regard, when it comes to a public forum...

 

[RedFox]

Well, I think bringing the PM conversation to the forum was the right thing to do - and, in doing so, you have a chance to further investigate your (and 3D resident's) motivations, so this is also good. I realize that it might seem like making a mountain out of a molehill - all the warnings about using PM on this forum - but until one has seen first hand the damage that can result from communication outside the eyes of the network (especially on a public forum) then it really can be very hard to understand.

It may take some time to investigate all my motivations, I don't think it's making a mountain out of a molehill either.
I think I am starting to understand the potential damage that can be caused.

When discussing energetic feeding or influence, it can very much seem like 'much ado about nothing' - but it isn't - the 'reality of non-physical attack' cannot be overstated. I think this thread is always a good reminder of what is possible in this regard, when it comes to a public forum...

I came across and read that thread a second time a month ago.....I will read it again

Q: Well, I guess that all of us tend to keep one or another area sacrosanct and think that it is not subject to attack, or that we can use logic and 3rd density thinking to explain it or "fix it." Until a person realizes that attack can come through even one's self, wives and husbands, children and parents, friends, virtually ANYBODY - NOBODY is exempt.

A: The block is a lack of faith in the concept. Remember, when one has been indoctrinated by religion, culture and/or science, they are predisposed to view all things in the sense of the measureable physical reality exclusively. Humans need to be cured of their lack of faith in the reality of non-physical attack.

I read the quote above yesterday and have been pondering its meaning...

It seems this is extra shocking to me because it brings me back to the community I got involved with (to some extent) before finding sott during my depression.
This is pretty hard for me to write about, but I think I'd rather bring it out in to the open and expose it to the light, whatever that may bring with it (part of me is Very worried what mentioning this will bring). My apologies if this is going off topic to much/potentially a bit long, or if it sounds too much like baked noodles.

Two things where happening at the time, firstly something was hanging around (which I mentioned in one of my early posts here) the second was I was dealing with my depression....and looking back it seems I had a need to identify myself with something. Whilst searching on line for things to explain what may be hanging around me, I came across the idea of energy vampires.
This however was not what I thought it was, it was a human (mostly internet based) sub culture with the idea that they are vampires and as such require an external source of energy (another sub class being literal blood drinkers)....the list of 'symptoms' posted on one of there message boards fitted my 'symptoms' (those I'd now class as depression due to toxic overload) so I began to explore this. Long story short I discovered that I can feed off the energy of other people/plants/places/things (either in person or remotely), which is just (to me) the direction of energy via the use of will (conscious or otherwise). I'm pleased to say that the idea of taking another energy without permission was not something I ever wanted to do, so I learnt to feed of general atmospheres and plants to some extent, but mostly go out in nature and just fill up from the surroundings as it where.
In this time I did experience and counter non-physical attacks directed at myself (end even defend some friends remotely). After a while I decided (due to improving my health through diet and exercise) that I wasn't a vampire (despite what I appeared to be capable of). But I wasn't done with the wishful thinking yet....turns out there are some other sub cultures closely related, called otherkin.
During some shared (energetic) visualisation and some (unguided, unseeded) meditations, others saw me (mentally) as a dragon, and I had images of a dragon appear to me in my minds eye. Yeah I know....if only I'd read the wave then! So I decided that I was otherkin, dragonkinn specifically. I even saw small ghost like Chinese dragons in my room once (reminds me of some of what John Keel has writtern). All of this it seems because I needed to identify with something (external) and because as a kid (and later during this period) I had some of the most beautiful/tactile dreams I can recall, of being a 'dragon' and flying over lakes and mountains.

Needless to say when I did discover and read the wave, several aspects where doubly shocking to me. Along with wondering if I was an OP or psychopath, I wondered if I was a lizard in human form... I put those whole period to the back of my mind until now.
I realise I've not let go of this past completely it seems....I think part of me still thinks (rightly or wrongly) that I can detect and defend myself against non-physical attacks (as if I'm on a level playing field!) which is egotistical/arrogant and dangerous of me. This it seems may be one reason I felt safe to communicate via PM....
That and it seemed because something 'good' came of the interaction, nothing 'bad' could......black and white thinking.

I hope it is appropriate to mention all this on the forum (rather than in a journal), simply because I feel I need to exercise my personal demons and shine a light on all of my past (I know of no brighter light than this forum). Time to recaptulate and let go of all those identifications.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

I'm just curious, after the in-depth discussion on the forum about why the Personal Message system should not be used, why a PM conversation took place at all?

You ask a very good question. Although I was well aware of the discussion relating to not using the PM system, I went ahead in any case with the PM for two reasons:

1. I thought I was being considerate to RedFox by not highlighting his spelling issue in public. Past experience has led me to believe that some people can be quite sensitive to having their spelling errors pointed out in public. And for some reason I didn't think that the issue of spelling fell into the category of self-reflection and Work.

2. I was also concerned what others might think of me for bringing up something "trivial" and "petty".

But I now know that none of the above excuses are valid in this forum. I have learned a lot from this experience and won't be using the PM system again.