Spending time away from everything. Counterproductive?

tridean

Jedi Master
Hi All,
I'm getting my teeth into a lot of the material Currently reading the articles on OP.

I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times, even before I found this forum etc, but do any of you who are doing the work, spend time away from everyone else, even if just for a few days, or is that counterproductive? Do you need to be in the constant hustle and bustle and interaction with others for the work to be more genuine.

I can see that being on my own, it would be a way to help eradicate many of the body's addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus, but I can also see that the same external stimulus is what is needed to find those moments where you have the possibility of having that 'cubic centimeter of luck'

Very interested in other's views on this, as one of the big questions I kept having whilst reading the Wave material was what would one do if they were the only person on the planet. I find it strange that I was asking this question well before I even read about OP or other such similar material

Thanks
Dean
 
tridean said:
I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times, even before I found this forum etc, but do any of you who are doing the work, spend time away from everyone else, even if just for a few days, or is that counterproductive? Do you need to be in the constant hustle and bustle and interaction with others for the work to be more genuine.

Hi Dean,

as far as I understand, to be a hermit is absolutely not recommened (this would be counterproductive), because the work: -cannot happen in a vacuum-. For example, to be a hermit you would miss all the programs regarding social interaction and there would be no friction no more, because programs are triggered from outside (i.e. through other people), considering that we are reacting machines.


tridean said:
I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times [spending time away from everything]
I would like ask, why do want to do this?


tridean said:
even if just for a few days
This should be not a problem, to work things out, to relax.
 
Hi, your name is too long to type out!

Thanks for the reply. I thought as much.

abcdefghiJoerg said:
tridean said:
I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times [spending time away from everything]
I would like ask, why do want to do this?

I'm not real sure. I guess this is something I have to work out. Because my research over the past year or so taught me that many of our habits, especially thoughts are mental and bodily addictions, and that I do get fed up with having to battle the same thoughts that creep in, I just wondered what it would be like to just get away from everyone and everything and the external interactions.

However, since finding this forum, I realized that there is a definite dimension I have been missing, and that the hermit approach (as you put it) does seem similar to one of the 3 ways (which is it the monk way??).

I do like to go fishing and camping a lot, but there are times when I want to be with people, and there are times when I want to be alone. I would say that it would be about 50/50

Many thanks
Dean
 
tridean said:
what would one do if they were the only person on the planet....

But we do not live in a world where one is or ever would be "the only person on the planet". Such a scenario would be the ultimate STS fantasy, I guess, but counter to the reason we are third-density humans living on a third-density planet:

The Cassiopaeans said:
All there is is lessons. This is one infinite school. There is no other reason for anything to exist.

The Ra Material said:
The third-density entity is self-sufficient only through difficulty and deprivation. It is difficult to learn alone for there is a built-in handicap, at once the great virtue and the great handicap of third density. That is the rational/intuitive mind. Thus, the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call it, was designed to distort entities towards a predisposition to deal with each other. Thus, the lessons which approach a knowing of love can be begun. This catalyst then is shared between peoples as an important part of each self’s development as well as the experiences of the self in solitude and the synthesis of all experience through meditation. The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its being-ness. Thus, each may aid each by reflection.



tridean said:
I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times, even before I found this forum etc, but do any of you who are doing the work, spend time away from everyone else, even if just for a few days, or is that counterproductive? Do you need to be in the constant hustle and bustle and interaction with others for the work to be more genuine.

The devil is in the details. A lot would depend on one's specific situation and motivation for wanting to "spend time away from everyone else", and the effect that taking such a "vacation" would have on the other people in your life. In one situation it might stem from a selfish desire to escape one's responsibilities; in another it might naturally result from a need to create balance, in a life that offers few opportunities for the kind solitude that we all need for the "synthesis" of one's experiences.

Everyone needs time to oneself now and then, being with others ideally should be balanced by time spent alone. I have personally rarely felt the need to take a "vacation from others" for a significant period of time, because I usually have the necessary opportunities for "solitude" on a daily basis. That's not just happenstance, I've actually worked hard to set up "boundaries" between myself and others, in order to create a balance between interacting with others and alone time. If someone were to lack such boundaries , then I could see how they could periodically become "overwhelmed" and preoccupied with a desire to "get away". And I could see how "getting away" might relieve that pressure temporarily. But one would always come back to the same situation. So, sooner or later, they would need to start working on negotiating boundaries with others, to find a longer-term solution and sense of balance.

tridean said:
I can see that being on my own, it would be a way to help eradicate many of the body's addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus....

I don't know what you mean by "many of the body's addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus". Can you provide an example of what you mean, even a hypothetical one?

tridean said:
I find it strange that I was asking this question well before I even read about OP or other such similar material

I'm not sure I understand the reference to OPs. The C's have mentioned that a characteristic of OPs is that they "spend inordinate amounts of time in solitude". Has it been a pattern at any time in your life to "spend inordinate amounts of time in solitude"? Or is it simply something that you fantasize about doing, due to a lack of time to yourself?
 
tridean said:
I was curious, as I have been motivated to do this quite a few times, even before I found this forum etc, but do any of you who are doing the work, spend time away from everyone else, even if just for a few days, or is that counterproductive? Do you need to be in the constant hustle and bustle and interaction with others for the work to be more genuine.

When I'm doing some hard thinking and recapitulation, I need some time alone, but the amount of time needed varies widely. Even when I'm interrupted, it's a good thing because it gives me the chance to break the chain of thoughts and then come back to it fresh.

The "hustle and bustle and interaction with others" is crucial for living with eyes open, gathering knowledge and observing yourself in relation to others and the environment. It also provides opportunities to see confirmation or correction of what you may be learning if you pay attention to the feedback.
 
tridean,

I can understand having the thought of getting away from it all to get yourself together and digest all the material you have recently been reading. It is a trick being played on you by one of your programs and will result in much wasted time (IMHO). I made this same mistake several years ago, and the results were reading a lot of material and books and not much else. :huh: Without the benefits of sharing and learning from the network offered here, I wasted a lot of time and did not grow or increase my knowledge and understanding much at all.

I first failed to grasp the importance of learning to understand myself first, before trying to work on other things and it was a disaster IMO. I can't stress enough how important it is to read and understand the books related to Psychology:

Mask of Sanity - Hervey Cleckley
Trapped in the Mirror - Elan Golomb
Unholy Hungers - Barbara E. Hort
In Sheep's Clothing - George K. Simon
Operators and Things - Barbara O'Brien
Myth of Sanity - Martha Stout

These books will help you gain a better understanding of yourself, and networking with the forum will allow you to get solid footing to move forward.

I think it is one thing to separate oneself and take a moment to collect ones thoughts and a whole different thing to withdraw from this world and try to do it all alone. One thing that I was able to finally figure out is that this is not a race or contest. It is a process and a long one at that. So take it from someone who has been there and done that. Just relax and do what you can to grow your knowledge and awareness, and take full advantage of the networking available to you here. It's called the 'Work' for a valid reason. One builds a house correctly by building a strong foundation first and then continues with adding one board or brick at a time.

FWIW,

gwb
 
Hi All,
Many thanks for replies. I actually have some stuff I'd like to say in reply but can someone please tell me how you quote multiple sources in the one reply. For example PepperFritz, you quoted from three different sources.

Thanks
Dean
 
pepperfritz said:
I'm not sure I understand the reference to OPs. The C's have mentioned that a characteristic of OPs is that they "spend inordinate amounts of time in solitude". Has it been a pattern at any time in your life to "spend inordinate amounts of time in solitude"? Or is it simply something that you fantasize about doing, due to a lack of time to yourself?

Just a note that OPs are virtually indistinguishable from humans with a 'seed of a soul' - in fact, only after long and detailed observation can one begin to discern whether someone might or might not be an OP, though this is rather futile, ultimately, since OPs are as natural a part of the landscape as humans with the 'seed of a soul'. The C's did not say that spending inordinate amounts of time alone was a characteristic of OPs -- they mentioned that it is a characteristic of reanimated 'robotoids'. Here is the relevant transcript:

901021 said:
Q: (L) Do they ever pick up dead bodies, you know, right
after, and reanimate them?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) When they pick them up and reanimate them, do they
reanimate them with the souls that left them? Do they like,
catch the soul and put it back in?
A: No.
Q: (L) When they reanimate them, do they reanimate them
with an alien soul?
A: Multiple possibilities.
Q: (L) If they reanimate them, is it possible to reanimate them
with no soul?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK, when they reanimate them with no soul, do they
have kind of like a zombie-like situation?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, could you give us a little more information on this
particular aspect? If they reanimate them with no soul, what is
the animating force or energy?
A: Indistinguishable from other humans.
Q: (L) They're indistinguishable from other humans. (LM)
How is that possible?
A: Technology makes all things possible!!!
Q: (L) Of course, you are talking about 4th density
technology?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What form of... Now, a reanimated corpse that has
been animated by infusion of some form of an energy
pattern... (SV) Is it 'chi' energy, maybe? (L) What if the
reanimated corpse dies again, I mean, you have got to
understand here, that we perceive the soul as being the
animating force of the physical body, and when the soul is
gone, the body dies. Is that correct?
A: You are making assumptions based on limited data.
Q: (L) OK, well, will you expand my database by telling me
how a corpse can be reanimated if not done by a... if not with
a soul?
A: Complex technology, using electronic biogeneration
frequency matching, combined with extremely high frequency
radio beacon transmitters for tracking and control of all
functions, including thought pattern mimic and emotional
frequency vibrational rate modulation!!!!
Q: (L) If they're doing this, does it make the physical body...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) The blood, the heartbeat and everything...
A: All functions, including cellular, duplicated.
Q: (SV) What about the aura? (L) Would a being such as this
still have an aura?
A: Projected.
Q: (L) OK, that would be projected, along with all of the
frequencies, and everything else. Now... (SV) Are there a lot
of dead people walking around?
A: This is method used for subjects discussed in "Matrix
Material" instead of "Robots", as suggested.
Q: (L) Is there any way that a normal person would be able
to identify such a being?
A: No.
Q: (L) Approximately how many of this type of being are
walking around on our planet, acting like normal people?
A: 2,000,000.
Q: (L) Approximately 2 million?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK...
A: You, Laura, have come in contact with 7 of them!
Q: (L) Who are they?
A: Discover.
Q: (L) Can you give me a clue, has it been within the last...
(SV) Am I one of them? [Laughter] Well, you never know!
(L) Are any of us one of them?
A: Discover.
Q: (SV) Ask if you've done spirit release on any of these
seven? (L) Has this contact happened within the past year?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Are you going to tell me anything about it at all? If
there is any question I could ask to get any information
concerning this, consider it asked.
A: Who is nutritionist?
Q: (SV) Is that the one who wrote the book? SVS***? (L)
She's not a nutritionist. (SV) Who do you know that's a
nutritionist? Isn't she a nutritionist, the one that wrote that
book? (L) Do you mean SVS***?
A: Yes.
Q: (LM) I find that hard to believe. (F) Is SVS*** a robot?
(LM) When did she die?
A: Open. All it takes is a "hospital visit." [Laura's note: To my
knowledge, SVS*** has been hospitalized for surgery at
least twice.]
Q: (LM) Then what happens? (SV) All what takes? (LM) It
doesn't make sense. (L) Maybe there's a death certificate for
her...
A: Yes it does.
Q: (L) Does this mean if one goes into a hospital for surgery,
that it's possible for them to die and be reanimated in this
manner? Without anybody being aware of what happened?
A: Yes.
Q: (LM) Why? (L) Well, we know why, because they're
creating a force, you know, putting it in place all over the
planet so they can take over... We already know that! Is that
correct?
A: Open.
Q: (LM) What's open mean? (L) Open means that's not
absolutely determined yet, at this time, that's not something
that they're just... it could be, yes. (L) So, you're saying that
SVS*** was one of these robotoids, is that what you 're
saying?
A: We gave you one for your own knowledge and protection,
but cannot give you others at this juncture. [Laura's note:
Does this mean they can be given at another time, after a
particular, destined interaction takes place?]
Q: (L) Is it up to me to figure out what characteristics these
individuals have, in order to...
A: Based upon data given, yes.
Q: (L) OK, is one of the, I mean, I'm clicking right now, one
of the characteristics I think, that these kind of individuals
might have, since they have this projected emotional
frequency, would be a repeating emotional pattern, that they
just simply, in spite of seeming intelligence, do not seem to
learn from anything; that it just repeats over and over again, is
that a clue?
A: Yes.
Q: (SV) Wait a minute, was that her idea, that we should eat
like the monkeys do? (L) Yes. (SV) And then you've read
about... saw the Jane Goodall film that talked about the fact
that monkeys like to eat... (L) Other monkeys, yes. (SV) And
what did she say when you told her about that? (L) She said,
, "Well, I'll just say:" and she changed the entire paragraph to
read "That in the wild, primates eat primarily vegetation with
some amounts of protein," and no specification as to where
the protein came from. (L) That's really stretching it. (SV) She
should have just left it out... (LM) That doesn't make any
sense... (L) Now, she does... there are some strange things
about her, I'll have to admit that. OK, then, this same inability
to get a clue about what's going on... OK, that's a clue, right
there. Is there any kind of instinctual sensation that one would
get about these types of individuals?
A: Bland.
Q: (L) That they're bland in some way? Is that it, that these
individuals are bland individuals?
A: Spend inordinate amounts of "time" in solitude.
 
tridean said:
can someone please tell me how you quote multiple sources in the one reply. For example PepperFritz, you quoted from three different sources.


Step 1:
Copy and paste into your reply box the text you wish to quote.

Step 2:
Place the following code at the beginning of the text (minus the spaces): [ quote ]
And place the following code at the end of the text (minus the spaces): [ /quote ]

Step 3:
If you wish to identify the quote as coming from a specific person, say Buddy, change the code at the beginning to read as follows (minus the spaces): [ quote=Buddy ]

Hope that's clear....
 
anart said:
The C's did not say that spending inordinate amounts of time alone was a characteristic of OPs -- they mentioned that it is a characteristic of reanimated 'robotoids'.....


Oops. My mistake. Thank you for correcting that, Anart.

Tridean: I don't understand your reference to OPs at all, then. Perhaps you could elaborate? :)
 
Tridean: I don't understand your reference to OPs at all, then. Perhaps you could elaborate? Smiley

PepperFritz,
I'm going to respond to one point or question at a time.

This was simply based on the following from this article
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

in which I found the following towards the end of page 1

The principal role of the OP is now to prevent the genuine seeker from advancing along the Way.

This is clear when we look at the following:

1. OPs collect soul energy from souled individuals.
2. This energy is transmitted to 4D STS.
3. OPs are intermixed in families with souled individuals.
4. When a souled individual makes the commitment to the “work,” he or she needs to learn to conserve the soul energy for without it the work cannot be done.
5. When one makes a commitment to the “work,” one comes under attack.
6. This “attack” comes from those closest to you: family and friends.
7. “BUT, when someone is in the process of ‘growing’ and strengthening the soul, the Control System will seek to insert even more ‘units’ into that person’s life.”

So my original take on what I read here was that part of the battle was going to take place very close to home, and that there will come a time when one needs rest and a break from it. So this was the only reference to OP's.

The majority of what you said (pepperfritz), when you referenced C's and Ra, and what Joerg and Buddy said certainly makes sense and did basically answer my primary question on spending time away as part of the 'work', as opposed to just finding time for some rest, which I do anyway, although I wish I could do it more regularly, and this is something I can work on.

I don't know what you mean by "many of the body's addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus". Can you provide an example of what you mean, even a hypothetical one?

Most of my research on the habitual behaviours of man, and the reason people fail when attempting to succeed at something, spurred on by seeing my parents squander half a million dollars (lotto win), was thanks to a book called 'Evolve your Brain' by Joe Dispenza. It is a scientific book on how our brains are molded and the science of changing your mind. It's a big book, and it goes into a lot of detail on the process of neural (cortical) mapping, which are the central structures of our beliefs, thoughts and habits, and how these neural networks are joined to a process of chemical addiction within our bodies.

Every thought we have, can not exist without a neural network, whether it is something already established or is something being created with the help of already established neural networks. Each of these networks has signatures which correspond to certain chemicals, which when triggered will release chemicals into our body, which are received by receptors on our cells. After a while we can become addicted to these chemicals, and this is why we find it hard to break habits, stop mind chatter, respond instead of react and so on. In fact the majority of our time is spent accommodating the requests of our body cells receptors.

However, many times the brain needs triggering from the use of our senses. If the body can not trick the brain into releasing the needed chemicals by triggering memories (neural networks), it will use the reticular formation (an old term for parts of the mid brain), to scan the external world for something to trigger it off. Likewise, external stimulus accounts for urges through the same process. If a smoker sees someone on TV smoking, it will give them the urge to smoke because it fires of the neural networks formed in the smoker form the process of smoking.

Now this is what I learned from this book. In the last two to three pages of Riding the Wave, Laura basically makes the same case, albeit with slightly different examples and wording, what I got was the same explanation for our habitual ways.

When I referred to this when asking about 'time away', it was merely that I saw the choice of taking time away from everything as a way to clean house. But on reflection, there are two major issues. Habits take quite a long time to break down. There is a theory that at least 30 days is required, not sure if this is true or not, however the breaking of a habit will require the breaking down of the neural networks associated with it, along with the gradual removal of the receptors created for the chemicals, and I guess the stronger a habit it, the longer it would take. The second issue is that although time away may break a habit, there is still the underlying reason a habit is created in the first place, and time away most probably would not address this issue.

I am not suggesting that what I 'know' about bodily addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus is correct, but it has sure answered many questions for me over the last year or so, and I'm very open to expanding on this which it seems a lot of the material presented here, including the people on this forum will help do.

tridean,

I can understand having the thought of getting away from it all to get yourself together and digest all the material you have recently been reading. It is a trick being played on you by one of your programs and will result in much wasted time (IMHO). I made this same mistake several years ago, and the results were reading a lot of material and books and not much else. Huh? Without the benefits of sharing and learning from the network offered here, I wasted a lot of time and did not grow or increase my knowledge and understanding much at all.

I first failed to grasp the importance of learning to understand myself first, before trying to work on other things and it was a disaster IMO. I can't stress enough how important it is to read and understand the books related to Psychology:

Mask of Sanity - Hervey Cleckley
Trapped in the Mirror - Elan Golomb
Unholy Hungers - Barbara E. Hort
In Sheep's Clothing - George K. Simon
Operators and Things - Barbara O'Brien
Myth of Sanity - Martha Stout

These books will help you gain a better understanding of yourself, and networking with the forum will allow you to get solid footing to move forward.

I think it is one thing to separate oneself and take a moment to collect ones thoughts and a whole different thing to withdraw from this world and try to do it all alone. One thing that I was able to finally figure out is that this is not a race or contest. It is a process and a long one at that. So take it from someone who has been there and done that. Just relax and do what you can to grow your knowledge and awareness, and take full advantage of the networking available to you here. It's called the 'Work' for a valid reason. One builds a house correctly by building a strong foundation first and then continues with adding one board or brick at a time.

FWIW,

gwb

Thank you. I am starting to see a pattern already. I am following too many links for starters. Take this example, I started on the Cassiopaean Experiement introduction, which I have yet to finish, but in the same browser, I have a tab linked to the post Depression as a stepping stone, Organic portals, psycopaths, SOTT, and its getting too much. I don't know whether to follow each link and then spend the hours required to read it, often forgetting what sent me there, or just ignore the links, go back to reading the Experiement, and take it from there. However, if I didn't follow the link to the OP's article, I wouldn't have started this post (at least not yet), but I am glad I did.

But regarding doing too much reading and not enough doing, I can say that I am at least doing work. I have recently caught myself getting down and then being able to determine what triggered it, and then having a handle on what was causing it, although I know this needs much more. I'd like to be able to at least read some of the material first before sharing my 'work'.

Thanks guys
Dean
 
tridean said:
I don't know what you mean by "many of the body's addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus". Can you provide an example of what you mean, even a hypothetical one?

Most of my research on the habitual behaviours of man, and the reason people fail when attempting to succeed at something, spurred on by seeing my parents squander half a million dollars (lotto win), was thanks to a book called 'Evolve your Brain' by Joe Dispenza. It is a scientific book on how our brains are molded and the science of changing your mind. It's a big book, and it goes into a lot of detail on the process of neural (cortical) mapping, which are the central structures of our beliefs, thoughts and habits, and how these neural networks are joined to a process of chemical addiction within our bodies.

Every thought we have, can not exist without a neural network, whether it is something already established or is something being created with the help of already established neural networks. Each of these networks has signatures which correspond to certain chemicals, which when triggered will release chemicals into our body, which are received by receptors on our cells. After a while we can become addicted to these chemicals, and this is why we find it hard to break habits, stop mind chatter, respond instead of react and so on. In fact the majority of our time is spent accommodating the requests of our body cells receptors.

However, many times the brain needs triggering from the use of our senses. If the body can not trick the brain into releasing the needed chemicals by triggering memories (neural networks), it will use the reticular formation (an old term for parts of the mid brain), to scan the external world for something to trigger it off. Likewise, external stimulus accounts for urges through the same process. If a smoker sees someone on TV smoking, it will give them the urge to smoke because it fires of the neural networks formed in the smoker form the process of smoking.

Now this is what I learned from this book. In the last two to three pages of Riding the Wave, Laura basically makes the same case, albeit with slightly different examples and wording, what I got was the same explanation for our habitual ways.

Yep -the point being that we are addicts in our own skin...


dean said:
When I referred to this when asking about 'time away', it was merely that I saw the choice of taking time away from everything as a way to clean house. But on reflection, there are two major issues. Habits take quite a long time to break down. There is a theory that at least 30 days is required, not sure if this is true or not, however the breaking of a habit will require the breaking down of the neural networks associated with it, along with the gradual removal of the receptors created for the chemicals, and I guess the stronger a habit it, the longer it would take. The second issue is that although time away may break a habit, there is still the underlying reason a habit is created in the first place, and time away most probably would not address this issue.

I am not suggesting that what I 'know' about bodily addictions connected to the mind which are triggered by external stimulus is correct, but it has sure answered many questions for me over the last year or so, and I'm very open to expanding on this which it seems a lot of the material presented here, including the people on this forum will help do.

You will find that the 'heat of the crucible' will help to 'break the habits' as well - rather speeds it up, as it were, and this is directly related to the Work.

tridean said:
Thank you. I am starting to see a pattern already. I am following too many links for starters. Take this example, I started on the Cassiopaean Experiement introduction, which I have yet to finish, but in the same browser, I have a tab linked to the post Depression as a stepping stone, Organic portals, psycopaths, SOTT, and its getting too much. I don't know whether to follow each link and then spend the hours required to read it, often forgetting what sent me there, or just ignore the links, go back to reading the Experiement, and take it from there. However, if I didn't follow the link to the OP's article, I wouldn't have started this post (at least not yet), but I am glad I did.

I think that makes sense - finish the Experiment and move on from there - take notes on points of confusion or inquiry and let your mind do what it does - and give yourself time to actually acclimate to the increase in information.

td said:
But regarding doing too much reading and not enough doing, I can say that I am at least doing work. I have recently caught myself getting down and then being able to determine what triggered it, and then having a handle on what was causing it, although I know this needs much more. I'd like to be able to at least read some of the material first before sharing my 'work'.

My suggestion would be to not worry about doing anything at this point - continue to gather information and acclimate to it - self observation will continue to develop and you'll find yourself questioning more and more of your automatic mental processes - let it proceed as it proceeds as you are gathering information. Don't worry about getting it all at once - don't worry about not having enough time or having too much to read or any of that - do what is in you to do. Continue to gather the information and allow yourself the time to let it sink in a bit before trying to change the world (which is you). fwiw.
 
Tridean
do any of you who are doing the work, spend time away from everyone else, even if just for a few days, or is that counterproductive? Do you need to be in the constant hustle and bustle and interaction with others for the work to be more genuine.
This is one of many issues in life that do not have an all or nothing solution. Like Peperfritz said:
Pepperfritz
Everyone needs time to oneself now and then, being with others ideally should be balanced by time spent alone.

I think there are interesting things to learn about oneself by spending several days in a row alone on occasion. Being alone a week or two, or living alone revealed a lot to me about how much self-discipline I have, my procrastinating--laziness factor, how much of what I do is in response to the needs/requirements (job) of others.

Now days my alone time is essential for recharging, thinking, reading, meditating, exercise etc., but IMO, the most important lessons I've learned regarding The Work have been in the presence of my "petty tyrants." And--the happiest moments on this 3D "mortal coil" earth are in the company of my loved ones.

So, I say seek balance and be as present as possible in every situation.
shellycheval
 
In response to myself--or the self that was writing this yesterday morning:
Now days my alone time is essential for recharging, thinking, reading, meditating, exercise etc.,

Another "I" must point out that while this has become the IDEAL use of my alone time--I still struggle with procrastination, laziness, sloth, mind chatter, TV, inertia, the shoulds, codependency, etc., and trying to remain present through it all!

"Wherever you go--there you are." "you" being the common denominator means the work goes on regardless of whether we are alone or not--both experiences have their uses.

the collective group of "i"s known here as shellycheval
 

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