spiral in the sky

tridean

tridean

Jedi Master
As I am very new in understanding UFO's etc, I wanted to post this to see others thoughts on it as it looks fake to me, but then so does almost everything I see on the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfy2JMcyMyA&feature=topvideos
 
Hi Dingo. Did you have any comments to add, or a description to help others decide if they want to take their time to watch the video link? Posting only a link is lacking in external consideration, since no one other than you has any idea what it is.

With that said, I watched it and it looks fake to me. Just my take, though.
 
An elder here told me that it was a fake. Check out this article here. On the other hand, all one has to do is to call it a fake and produce someone who claims he/she did it. That would stop or at least slow down any further investigations into the phenomenon. So at this point, we need more data to be conclusive. :)
 
The video reminded me of the spiral in Norway a month or two back. Interestingly enough, the individual who claims to have manufactured this incident did a 'debunking' video of the spiral in Norway. The debunking wasn't to show that what was being seen in the sky wasn't real, but that it was most likely a missile as reported. Okay, but doesn't he find the strange lights a wee bit curious?
 
It is fake because the spiral and lights really looks CGI to me and I think that the background does not match the flying lights.
 
Tigersoap said:
It is fake because the spiral and lights really looks CGI to me and I think that the background does not match the flying lights.
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I agree with that. It is very obvious that computer animation.
 
Here is another story about the Canadian "spiral lights". This one suggests that the "spiral" was real and gives another youtube link claiming that this is the real video. About a three and half minute video. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsn1jGYA-k0
 
Thanks Vulcan. I have to admit, I find it difficult to get excited or interested in the whole Alien thing. Don't get me wrong, it is not that I don't believe in them, on the contrary, I find it difficult to understand how anyone who realizes the sheer size of our galaxy alone is able to stand there and firmly dismiss the existence of other life forms. But, I have yet to find any material, video, images, research etc that makes me stand up and say, there is no way I can doubt this.

It's like the crop circles. I watched a documentary on them and felt myself getting annoyed at those naysayers who refuse to open their minds to the possibility that they are created by something other than man. My reasons were quite simple, if man is doing them all, you'd think at some point they would make mistakes that are so obvious to the eye to prove they are man made...yet that was never discussed in the documentary. Surely, someone would have stuffed up by now, why not use a stuffed up crop circle and end the debate once and for all, but they can't. Nor has a farmer ever caught them in the act. Surely a farmer would have caught someone by now, and why not use that in the documentary, but again, they did not. Having said that...I still was not convinced by the other side of the argument, there simply was not enough information to make me say...yes, I agree that these are most likely created by something alien.

And this is the problem I am having with the aliens.

I do fully understand that the majority on this forum are leaning more towards the fact that aliens do exist and are here, so is it possible that someone here can point me to some compelling evidence that supports this? That would be great. I am assuming that there is a lot of information presented here somewhere in QFS, SOTT or this forum, but what would you think is the most compelling evidence that most would agree is probably the most informative in this regard, if indeed something like this exists.

Many thanks :)

Dean
 
A different view from an airplane of this mysterious (or faked?) spiral event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQSJFaEMcFo&feature=related

"Another video has just surfaced to us from in a jet airliner at 25,000 feet above the Pacific Ocean, northwest of Washington State."

Dunno - doesn't seem like the plane is moving at all.

Close up video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZnkQPdyRmM&feature=related

cosmicpreachers — May 23, 2010 — 5-26-2010Breaking News: Martin retracts hoax statement, says he was told to keep quiet---A UFO was seen over Western Canada on Friday night. It became an internet buzz and one person stepped forward.

Kevin Martin, a Southern California resident, told TheWeatherSpace.com that he was the hoaxer. He even provided a video example on how he could do it. Some say it did not add up. Martin was not too front with some questions we had to ask.

Martin has retracted his statement.
 
Dingo said:
I do fully understand that the majority on this forum are leaning more towards the fact that aliens do exist and are here, so is it possible that someone here can point me to some compelling evidence that supports this? That would be great. I am assuming that there is a lot of information presented here somewhere in QFS, SOTT or this forum, but what would you think is the most compelling evidence that most would agree is probably the most informative in this regard, if indeed something like this exists.

Many thanks :)

Dean
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Have you read the Wave Series? Or High Strangeness? All by Laura. Or Richard Dolan's books, UFOs and the National Security State 1941-1973 and UFOs and the National Security State 1973-1991?

If not, those would be some good things to read if you are interested.
 
I do fully understand that the majority on this forum are leaning more towards the fact that aliens do exist and are here, so is it possible that someone here can point me to some compelling evidence that supports this?
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Hi Dingo,

I found Morris K Jessup's, The Case for the UFO to be pretty compelling.

You can find the PDF, here

http://www.quantumfuture.net/store/downloads.php

Though I think the Wave would be much more important to read first.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Dingo said:
I do fully understand that the majority on this forum are leaning more towards the fact that aliens do exist and are here, so is it possible that someone here can point me to some compelling evidence that supports this? That would be great. I am assuming that there is a lot of information presented here somewhere in QFS, SOTT or this forum, but what would you think is the most compelling evidence that most would agree is probably the most informative in this regard, if indeed something like this exists.

Many thanks :)

Dean
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Have you read the Wave Series? Or High Strangeness? All by Laura. Or Richard Dolan's books, UFOs and the National Security State 1941-1973 and UFOs and the National Security State 1973-1991?

If not, those would be some good things to read if you are interested.
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The basic theory is that UFO's are not necessarily aliens in the traditional sense of 'beings from another planet', but something more akin to 'ultraterrestrials' ie: our perception of beings that inhabit a different realm that intersects with ours. And furthermore, that we represent 'food' for them, in the same way that livestock on this planet represents 'food' for us. There is a rather long and winding trail of circumstantial evidence that points to this as a distinct possibility, which includes consistent elements from mythology and historical record, whereby 'someone' interferes with our lives, and that someone is often ascribed/interpretted as paranormal phenomena or 'gods' or 'aliens' or somesuch, depending on social and historical context, but is most likely all part of the same picture.

It's rather difficult to summarise when there are kinda related threads of information all over the place, that start to make sense and drop into place when considering this hypothesis. You'd probably be interested by John Keel's 'Operation Trojan Horse', and also William Bramley's 'Gods of Eden' which comes at the same problem from various angles. Oh, and also Laura's 'Secret History of the World'. There is also remarkable overlap from concepts contained within the works of Gurdjieff, Castaneda, and others, but maybe that's enough to be getting on with!
 
I thought I'd use this thread to bring up the spiral UFO seen over eastern Australia within the last 24 hours. SOTT has already picked it up here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/209894-UFO-Spotted-Over-Eastern-Australia

I found this story fascinating because the same object was seen over a 1000-km stretch within a 15-minute period according to the times mentioned in the article. The story even made it to the top of some online mainstream news sites in Australia. It's one of those sightings that seems hard to dismiss due to the fact that nothing natural can really be used to explain the spiral appearance. It seems to me as if UFO sightings are getting less ambiguous with more of a "wow" factor that even skeptics would find hard to dismiss. It's almost like when crop circles first appeared in the late 1980s, they were just simple circles and nothing more. Then in 1990 they suddenly got complex and amazed many people at the time.
 
Thanks for all the help guys

3D Resident said:
I thought I'd use this thread to bring up the spiral UFO seen over eastern Australia within the last 24 hours. SOTT has already picked it up here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/209894-UFO-Spotted-Over-Eastern-Australia

I found this story fascinating because the same object was seen over a 1000-km stretch within a 15-minute period according to the times mentioned in the article. The story even made it to the top of some online mainstream news sites in Australia. It's one of those sightings that seems hard to dismiss due to the fact that nothing natural can really be used to explain the spiral appearance. It seems to me as if UFO sightings are getting less ambiguous with more of a "wow" factor that even skeptics would find hard to dismiss. It's almost like when crop circles first appeared in the late 1980s, they were just simple circles and nothing more. Then in 1990 they suddenly got complex and amazed many people at the time.
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Our news said it was a rocket launched from Florida an hour earlier. Interesting!! Is this the same explanation for the other sightings?
 
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