StarshipCapricorn - like entering Bizarro World

[PopHistorian]

I found a similar forum to ours (same software and everything), based on the channelings (automatic writing, about five per week, ~350 words each) of a guy named Lavar who has been in communication with Captain Helena of the Starship Capricorn since 2004. The gist of the messages is almost exactly like Sheldan Nidle's and Mike Quinsey's, with seemingly special emphasis on NESARA. They have a forum with 478 registered users and 25,000+ posts.

Notably, most posts have a few to zero replies, so it's hardly a "discussion," and very, very little that is critical in any way. Thus, the "bizarro world" feeling. I found one topic called "Helena's Sources" that registered the fed-up feeling of one poster who was sick of NESARA being "announced" falsely every week, which generated a bit of discussion. A 1500-post member, Northern Spirit, seems to be in an admin-type role and throws the word "truth" around a lot.

Worth a glimpse to see what others are up to. Makes me appreciate the relative "rowdiness" of this forum. I don't have time to dig into it deeply, so it might be worth posting about it here if you see anything extraordinary.

hXXp://www.starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/upload/index.php

 

[Rich]

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Bizarre indeed! it is all good news, love, light and nice, pollution-cleaning aliens! from the Communications with Helena, Commander of Capricorn:

Helena: Good morning. I am pleased to communicate with you this morning. This is a great time for you and your country. There will soon be a great announcement from your government about the changes that will be coming, especially because of the great amount of funds that have been released to many of your U.S.
citizens.

I shall be pleased to soon be able to send some of our shuttles to come and go among you. It has been a long wait for us to be able to land and be able to help in the great assignment we have been given to clean up Mother Earth's atmosphere. We are pleased that you have already made significant progress in working on technology that can provide energy without pollution. We shall be pleased to have two of our crew members to come and work with you in your laboratory. Are you ready for us to come and help you?

er no thanks.

 

[anart]

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There will soon be a great announcement from your government about the changes that will be coming, especially because of the great amount of funds that have been released to many of your U.S.
citizens.

~looks around~ hmmm - where is my great amount of government released funds???

 

[PopHistorian]

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You said it, anart -- when there's no one over there researching any of Helena's claims, there's no one to say that these payments aren't really being made. NESARA is such a sickening scam that it may be the most prominent Achille's heel of that forum in the end.

By the way, on another site that promotes Starship Capricorn material, there is notice for readers who'd like to have the ET shuttle land in their backyard, too, to hook up with their friendly neighborhood telepath, who can make contact and order one up for you.

 

[Cyre2067]

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By the way, on another site that promotes Starship Capricorn material, there is notice for readers who'd like to have the ET shuttle land in their backyard, too, to hook up with their friendly neighborhood telepath, who can make contact and order one up for you.

Uhmmmm no thanks?

::still awaiting his government released funds::

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

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Helena: You are doing much good for us with your communication
with us each week day. There are many who receive your
communication with us and are looking forward to our coming to be
among you. Keep up your prayers and your daily contact with me.
You will be rewarded for your efforts.

I was gonna try to paraphrase but, what the hell... can anyone possibly imagine an STO being ever saying anything even remotely similar? Jeez... that just totally says it all about their intentions, polarity, etc.. *shivers*


Ok but cut to over a year earlier to December 2005:

Our choosing and that of our fellow aliens is to come
to the United States, first, which is the world's biggest
polluting nation. That is the major point of our landing and
fly-overs that are planned. The choice of landing in your valley
is a bit more complicated. First, you and some of your friends
expect it to happen. You have prepared for a landing. You have
the contacts to have the media present and, in addition, one of...
here are others who have
similarly prepared but as it is planned, the first landing will
be there in your valley, if all goes according to the present
plans. At any rate, it does appear that our time of coming and
showing ourselves to you is soon to happen. We have given you
the day and time of our landing but not the Saturday date.
Hopefully that will soon be made available to us and to you.
That is my message this morning. Do you have any questions?

Can you just see how his question should be "Uh yeah, could you tell me more about those landings and fly-overs? What's your favorite gas station?"

Cut to 10 years earlier.... (some more of the same crap about upcoming landings and fly-overs)....

...You will soon see us, or some of us,
when we land among you and later when we come to visit you in
your laboratory.

o_O ... ... if you thought power rangers was repetitive, oh ho ho you ain't seen nothin yet...
I dare somebody to find a message that doesn't mention the "anytime now" landings and fly-overs! Oh and the damn laboratory... :D

 

[ArdVan]

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o_O ... ... if you thought power rangers was repetitive, oh ho ho you ain't seen nothin yet...
I dare somebody to find a message that doesn't mention the "anytime now" landings and fly-overs! Oh and the damn laboratory... :D

Yes I read about six messages in the archive and the word "soon" is used in abundance. The more they say it, doesn't makes it more true. And that for me creepy mentioning of a laboratory reminded every time about a SF movie from the 50's where some gruesome experimental creatures are hidden. :P

 

[Peam]

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I was looking in the “feedback re: Lavar’s messages" forum, and found a thread titled “Who is Lavar?"
Where ‘Organic’ wrote:
hXXp://www.starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/upload/viewtopic.php?id=1587

I only present the facts as Lavar already presents them to the world himself. For those of you who are unaware, Lavar is also the channeler for Sananda at the nesara int'l site, something he doesn't want people to know.

Also further down on the same page:

I'm sure that Lavar/Harold L. Fox is a kind and gentle man. I worked on a project for him. Very courteous and also very scatter brained. I'm sure he is a dedicated scientist and is proficient at his job. I'm sure he is genuine in wanting to clean up mother earth and to get his energy gizmos up and running. I'm sure he thinks he has real telepathic abilitiies. No comment there. I know he is devoted to the mormon church. Very passionate there. I defended Lavar to no end when I used to post on the Capricorn guestbook. I was one of his biggest fans.

So this lab that the Helena messages refer could be this Harold L fox somewhere in Utah.

 

[j0da]

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Hey, it seems Helena has some book published :D

Some of you may be aware of the connection of Lavar and Helen Engels. It is the latter who first taught Lavar the principles of telepathy. As mentioned in his messages from the Starship Capricorn, and others not posted here (messages from Sananda) Helen has been putting a book on telepathy together which is now available for $20 plus shipping.

Helen has created her website dedicated to this subject, and it is where you can order this book:

hxxp://www(dot)telepathycourse(dot)com/

I ordered the book out of couriosity, and if I remember to do so, I will give a little review after I have received and read it.

Now, however you seem to have no stash of money coming your way, US citizens, but... You can learn TELEPATHY! For mere $20! So wipe your tears and learn this handy skill in no time!

Sotapanno did the review as promised, so I'll cite the best parts.

As I mentioned in the Lavar feedback section much of the book material was originally designed for a classroom course. The entire text is geared towards that purpose; as such it is not a text-book, but a very concise, very restricted to its purpose, providing only the absolutely essential details necessary for a beginner. The book also contains a section for a facilitator, guidelines on how to teach telepathy, though it too is worthwhile reading for the beginner.

The learning process of telepathy very strongly resembles the process of channeling in general (yes - I got a book on that too), the only difference is that in most channeling (the 'big guys') the conscious mind moves out completely and the entity giving the message has control over the body for the time of the channeling.

I also realized that meditation practice absolutely will help, as the mind has to be still, one must not 'think' - latter was stressed several times in the course. A form of meditation is actually one of the principles, and the student is being asked to practice meditation. Interestingly Helen and the Pleiadians recommend a breathing technique first mentioned by Drunvalo Melchezidek (“The Flower Of Life� and sacred geometry, Merkaba teachings) ... personally I have found this breathing technique quite excellent, when correctly done it really clears the mind and energizes. Combine this with prana breathing (as Drunvalo himself recommends, and really is part of it) and one just might be well on the way to being receptive to telepathy.

Courage is needed one way or the other, since it is a whole new UNKNOWN world, a kind of trepidation if not outright fear sets in - that was my own personal feeling. Instructions are present covering that very topic, stressing that it is something that must be overcome. Underlying subconscious fears can prevent one from learning, and connecting receiving.

The book emphasizes that the Pleiadians have purposefully set up a telepathic network to aid newcomers to telepathy - they are apparently hoping for a lot of people to do so. Part of this network are computers, not the kind we know, but advanced, specialized, and intelligent artificial systems (and with a reminder in the book that all things are conscious!), capable of receiving telepathic messages, and with the ability to connect a human telepath with other living beings, and boost the signal as well (since newbie’s are a bit weak). Once you are practiced, and wish to proceed with more contact you will actually have such a 'personal computer' assigned to you.

After reading the book, combined with my personal experience in telepathy and meditation, I really started to understand why Lavar for example has such trouble, and why the messages are repetitive. It is not because he does not want to, it is because it requires a certain type of focus. For one thing YOU MUST NOT THINK!

Only a person absolutely certain, with a big passion wanting to connect with galactic beings and other entities should do so. That is not just learn out of curiosity but wanting to DO IT. The book emphasizes, is almost its sole purpose, that if you follow the procedures and connect with the galactics you will make a commitment to earth and its people, a commitment to the family of light. You will be put to (light)work!

Hey, no financial risk at all. Even if you won't get the telepathy skill under your belt, after having followed Helen's instructions you got a high chance of learning how to FLY - levitating girl from "The Exorcist" style, babe!

 

[Peam]

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Found a conection between Harold Fox and the Helena channellings here:

hXXp://www.telepathycourse.com/hal-fox/index.php

Harold Fox is senior scientist and president of Emerging Energy Marketing Firm, Inc. based in Utah, a company geared to manufacture a new-energy device. One of the first scientists taught by Helen to actively channel Helena, Commander Starship Capricorn.

 

[Azur]

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There will soon be a great announcement from your government about the changes that will be coming, especially because of the great amount of funds that have been released to many of your U.S.
citizens.

~looks around~ hmmm - where is my great amount of government released funds???

Could this be what they are talking about?

http:(xx)www(d)petitiononline(d)com/nes911/petition.html

I've no idea what the link here is, except both speak of money falling into individuals hands (or forgive individual debt) and have the same name.

Is there ANY way of knowing if this bill did indeed get passed? This is a solid claim that is being made, and should be verifiable.


Here is another link with more info, again with the strange link of UFOs and congress actually passing a bill?

http:(xx)ca(d)groups(d)yahoo(d)com/group/nesarainternational/



There is a movie, too! http:(xx)www(d)ifilm.com/video/2747092

Dollars to donuts they'll be no trace of this "Bill" in any official way...


I also fail to see how people will suddenly be "liberated" when the credit card debt they rang up buying big screen TVs and cases of beer and burritos, is magically forgiven.

Free money? Oh yeah, sure, that's what it'll be. And then magically the food will grow itself without any need to work, etc, etc... Ever wonder why so many communes collapse? (I wish it were different).

Is this the ultimate in escapism?

????



Cheers.

 

[anart]

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Is there ANY way of knowing if this bill did indeed get passed?

What's your guess on that one?

 

[Azur]

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Is there ANY way of knowing if this bill did indeed get passed?

What's your guess on that one?

From above:

Dollars to donuts they'll be no trace of this "Bill" in any official way...

;)

 

[Laura]

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Is there ANY way of knowing if this bill did indeed get passed? This is a solid claim that is being made, and should be verifiable.

It doesn't exist, it never existed, it's all a psy-op - like the Aussie Bloke thing - designed to keep the ignorant masses spinning their wheels in what amounts to little more than a Cargo Cult mentality.

 

[Don Genaro]

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It seems Lavar's computer's health is failing. I don't think he's posted since last December. This thread _http://www.starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/upload/viewtopic.php?id=9081 tells the tale. People posting and asking after him. Then it's revealed that Lavar is really old and his computer, it seems, is possibly even older (where's all that technology when you need it!). But still nothing from Lavar. Do you think maybe he got bored with his project because only real learning is fun? "Lavar" means "wash" in Spanish- as in "brainwash"?