strange dream last night

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I had a strange dream last night that left me very distraught. I have a reason to believe it may be important. I have been doing a gallbladder flush last night, and have found in the past that it brings up important emotional stuff, e.g., very realistic replays of past experiences and situations.

This one was "fictional". It had some prequel before the part I remember.

I will tell it from the point when I and a bunch of friends are standing in line in what looks like an old post office\community bank in my town. The line is to sell the gold that you don't need. Now, this detail, I know where it could have come from -- I have been invited to a "gold swap" party for next week, where you could bring your unwanted or broken jewelry and they buy it from you at what supposedly is a good price. I can't make it but was thinking of bringing a couple of broken trinkets there ahead of time.

Anyways, in a dream, we are standing in line for a friend of mine (real) and her partner (fictional) who is this huge imposing guy -- we brought them there because they needed to sell gold and didn't know where they could do it, and now are keeping them company. He seems to control her in such a way that he doesn't even have to say a word, and she already does his bidding. Their turn comes, and she takes off her the only pieces she owns, large gold earrings with rubies, and gives it to him to sell along with some chain that he has. I kinda shrug in my mind, I think it's a bad choice, the earrings are very good.

Now all of a sudden we are next in line -- and even though we weren't going to sell anything, we think, what the heck, do we have something to pitch, since we are already here. I go through my pockets and then grab myself by the neck -- and on my neck I have an old chain that I don't even remember I had. It's centerpiece --a pendant -- is missing, and it's falling apart in a few other places; it has lost its luster and is very flimsy. Well, I decide to try and sell it and go to the next window.

The woman over there looks at it through some kind of computer gadget, shrugs her shoulders dismissively and says, "well, we can only give you $38 for it". To which I answer that that's strange, a friend of mine got $70 for a similar chain just a couple of months ago, did gold really go down in price that much?

She makes a face, calls someone on the phone and comments rather loudly on some "stupid girl" -- me -- who isn't happy with a price. In an unusual reaction from me, I ask her, "why are you talking about me in this way?", reprimand her for being rude to a customer, and ask to speak to a manager. As I am doing it, she gives me a small black folder, that's what they use to give you your money for privacy reasons. As I continue to voice my disagreement with how I am being treated, I peak into it -- and see that it holds quite a bit more money than $38 or even $70.

Another woman who I assume to be a manager, comes out and sits next to me. The manager and a sales rep sort of wink at each other, trying to communicate in facial expressions, and the manager says, "I guess I agree, but ... I thought she is going to open a premier account with us as part of the deal?" I have no idea what they are talking about'; my best guess is that a "premier account" is that you bring lots of stuff to them to trade, and I certainly don't have any more gold. I say that to her in a sort of a euphemistic kind of way, saying that I am a recent immigrant and have only a vague idea about what service is supposed to be like. At this point they give me four tokens of some kind, which is also a part of the process, and I leave.

Next scene, I am at home, and right at the door I check the folder and see that it contains $1,227. I go in -- the house looks like our old apartment, the very first one, my husband he is standing on the balcony -- and I say, "remember the old broken chain I had, with tiny thin dolphins?" and he says, "yeah, I gave it to you around the time when we first met". He is a little disappointed that I had sold it, it had sentimental value. I ask him, how much was it when you bought it, and he says, $8.99. I say, you won't believe it, that gold place gave me more than 1K for it. And he says, well I don't even think it was real gold. So it's very weird.

Next, I start researching this chain, it's design, and find out that there was some antique and very rare gold chain like that that has been lost. It has some story that I don't exactly remember; the chain pieces have tiny dolphins swimming, and the center piece is white and red enamel flower-like design, with tiniest extra chains connecting it to the main chain. Plenty of knock-offs have been made in our time, but, should the original chain show up again, even w\o the centerpiece it would be worth more then $24K, and the centerpiece alone about as much.

I realize what must have happened: the gold place people must have thought that I have the real chain and do not know it's true value. They first tried to give me bare pennies for it, but I started making too much noise because the sales person was rude, and attracted attention to the situation. Then, they decided to quickly give me more money so that I left quietly. If they planned to sell the chain to collectors for 24K, that's still quite a profit for them.

Why they thought it was a real chain, I do not know -- they had all the gadgets to check it out and see it for what it is. May be, there were blinded by wishful thinking -- that was my first thought.

And then came a second thought which I realized was impossible, but couldn't help entertaining -- may be I should go back, return the money and ask for my chain back, because, if it WERE indeed the real chain [and there was no chance of that, but here I was, thinking about it], then I want to keep it to myself, to find the center piece and wear it, or may be even sell it for $24K myself.

On these two conflicting thoughts, I woke up.

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to add to it, I have been experiencing a lot of discomfort around my neck, part muscle tension part sort throat ... the symptoms seemed to be related to the imagery in the dream. I feel better today.

any comments will be much appreciated. Sorry for lengthy post.
 
Hi Hildegarda,

I am not at all clear on what this dream is about, but one thing that came instantly to mind was that the Gold may somehow represent human spirituality/natural power, or the part of us that "they" don't want us to discover. Interesting also about the chain you were researching was an antique and very rare gold chain that had been lost. Just like the ancient knowledge of human spirituality has also been lost and yet is very valuable indeed and that we are now (with the prayer and breathing exercises etc.) trying to rediscover.

this may be way off, but that was my blink when reading your dream.
 
manitoban said:
the Gold may somehow represent human spirituality/natural power, or the part of us that "they" don't want us to discover. Interesting also about the chain you were researching was an antique and very rare gold chain that had been lost. Just like the ancient knowledge of human spirituality has also been lost and yet is very valuable indeed and that we are now (with the prayer and breathing exercises etc.) trying to rediscover.

thank you so much for your prospective. The most important question seems to the the one on which the dream ended: where is that chain and how do I find it. Clearly, going through the old fake stuff isn't going to do it.
 
First let me tell you how much I envy the clarity of your dream and how much i enjoyed reading it. That may seem like a strange thing to say but for the last 9 months i've had a baby waking me up frequently enough to leave my dream life a mess of partially remembered fragments and I used to love reflecting on the meaning of them.

Here's my interpretation:

And then came a second thought which I realized was impossible, but couldn't help entertaining -- may be I should go back, return the money and ask for my chain back, because, if it WERE indeed the real chain [and there was no chance of that, but here I was, thinking about it], then I want to keep it to myself, to find the center piece and wear it, or may be even sell it for $24K myself.
And that's exactly how "they" (STS) keep us distracted and "going for the gold". -my first thought after reading the above. I think it's important to remember that you were originally there at this gold exchange place on behalf of your friend and her questionable partner and the next thing you know your looking for things to hawk yourself and by the end of it all, you've been sucked into full STS mode and are contemplating ways to be sneaky for your own gain.

If I were you, I would examine all of the people you are close with and who THEY are associated with very carefully because it seems that your subconscious is trying to warn you that someone or something is trying to pull you off of your intended course by creating a strong focus on something materially insignificant (the necklace, which you admit to your husband in the dream was old and not worth much but then become absorbed with researching and finding). Likewise, it could be that you are trying to tell yourself that your current pursuit of knowledge is old and antiquated and is causing you to remain focused in a useless mental task that at its root is STS driven or an STS make-work project- the part about you researching the necklace really sticks out for me and is not something I have ever done in a dream before.

Anyway that's it FWIW, Happy interpreting!!!
Rx
 
Hi Hildegarda,

Maybe your dream outlines a habit of self-deprecation, where you usually don't value what you have until it's too late.
Maybe it's about how you're getting rid of your riches which are material but still are a bit afraid of getting swindled ?
A difficulty to let go somehow ?

My very own subjective and probably incorrect idea of your dream ;)
 
Tigersoap said:
Hi Hildegarda,

Maybe your dream outlines a habit of self-deprecation, where you usually don't value what you have until it's too late.
Maybe it's about how you're getting rid of your riches which are material but still are a bit afraid of getting swindled ?
A difficulty to let go somehow ?

My very own subjective and probably incorrect idea of your dream ;)

Actually I think everyones managed to see peaces of the message, so not so subjective perhaps :) I was thinking the same things.

The only thing I would like to add that hasn't been said is your friends partner seemed quite negative....quite detrimental/controlling. Perhaps your friends and her 'partner' was a reflection of part of yourself, your negative (and masculine) introject perhaps? This could be useful to look at.
How much does this negative 'partner' control and influence your decisions? And like Rx mentioned about outside influences, does it fit someone external too? How does the internal and external interact to manipulate you out of your gold?

Actually going to the gold exchange (that you couldn't make) in real life also seemed odd.....but that's just my impression.
Perhaps the dream reflects something to do with this also? Usually I tend to see dreams as using the recent symbols in your life as a way to transmit information....but in this case there seems to be something more perhaps?

To expand on tigersoaps observation, it may be worth looking at how you described the necklace....
Hildegarda said:
It's centerpiece --a pendant -- is missing, and it's falling apart in a few other places; it has lost its luster and is very flimsy. Well, I decide to try and sell it and go to the next window.
...this reminds me of how our machines are dirty, corrupt, broken (in need of repair) and may well have parts missing. Also how little we value ourselves and the 'gold' we arrive with (if there is any). Manitoban's point about gold and in reference to the work may be important here.....no alchemy can take place without some gold in the first place osit.

Interestingly it reminds me of something Laura describes in the wave series....its worth rereading the whole section, but I'll quote a little bit of it.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave11d.htm
Then the old man stood up and went through a door into an "inner" room in the tent, and I knew that I was also supposed to follow. I did. In this room was a golden chest about the size of a large breadbox. He went to it and opened it taking out a large necklace. Now, this necklace was about the strangest thing I have ever seen. It was made up of a series of balls of gold that were graduated like a strand of pearls would be, only the smallest was about the size of a playing marble and the largest, in the center, was about the size of a ping-pong ball. Suspended at the center was a figured gold object set with a large stone. The figure of the piece consisted of two spiralling horns similar to Ram's horns mounted to the side of the flat surface on which the stone was fixed. The flat surface was strange in that it was both "circular" yet "triangular." How it could be both, I cannot say, but it was. The "circular" part of it seemed to be a function of the stone which was rounded like a ping-pong ball cut in half. But it was the characteristics of the stone that fascinated me. Imagine a combination between a diamond and an opal and you have some idea of what it was like. It was milky yet crystalline, flashing fire and colors like an opal, yet brilliant and transparent like a diamond. The "living nature" of this stone was apparent, and I was in awe of it.

The old man turned to me and looked at me long and carefully - searching my eyes for something. He held the necklace in both hands, suspended in air as he did so and finally said: "You understand?" I replied, "yes." And the understanding that was instantly "opened" to my mind was that, if I accepted the stone, there were "consequences." The consequences were that any manifestations of falseness in me would "turn on" me and destroy the instrument in which I was operating; i.e. the physical body of my present incarnation. It didn't matter if they were unintended. I was being charged to seek out and speak only truth with no latitude for subjective "wishful thinking."

With this understanding passed to me the enormous responsibility and risk I was accepting. It was sobering, awe inspiring and even a little frightening. But the fear passed quickly. "You accept?" the old man asked. "I do." I replied and bent my head to receive the stone. He placed it carefully around my neck, adjusting the fit at the shoulders so that the stone should rest exactly at the base of my breastbone.

I was embraced again, and pased out of the inner room to the outer where the two other men were waiting. When they saw the stone, their faces lit up with joy and they clasped their hands together and bowed as I passed. I signalled them with my eyes as I did so, knowing that I could no longer speak in that realm.

It also reminded me of this dream posted by Ruth
Electromagnetism makes my jewellry "dance"
 
Thank you all so much for the feedback. Many threads to pull on.

Perhaps your friends and her 'partner' was a reflection of part of yourself, your negative (and masculine) introject perhaps?

there is definitely something to it. The earring design that my dream friend had was a few tiered feather-like golden leaves with large rubies at the bases of each of them. I looked up feathers and they seem to represent celestial -- higher -- knowledge. For the rubies, my immediate association was the Biblical one, "rubies are for a virtuous woman", the virtue, in a large sense, being "the quality of doing what is right and avoiding what is wrong". Giving that away -- bad idea.

...this reminds me of how our machines are dirty, corrupt, broken (in need of repair) and may well have parts missing. Also how little we value ourselves and the 'gold' we arrive with (if there is any). Manitoban's point about gold and in reference to the work may be important here.....no alchemy can take place without some gold in the first place osit.


so true. Thank you very much for the Wave quote, it is so powerful and does seem very relevant. I have reread the whole chapter and couldn't stop going :)




Maybe your dream outlines a habit of self-deprecation, where you usually don't value what you have until it's too late. [..]
A difficulty to let go somehow ?

I think it's important to remember that you were originally there at this gold exchange place on behalf of your friend and her questionable partner and the next thing you know your looking for things to hawk yourself and by the end of it all, you've been sucked into full STS mode and are contemplating ways to be sneaky for your own gain. [..] Likewise, it could be that you are trying to tell yourself that your current pursuit of knowledge is old and antiquated and is causing you to remain focused in a useless mental task that at its root is STS driven or an STS make-work project



These all are related, IMO, and feel very much on the spot. The whole self-serving aspect of the dream, which I realized only upon waking up, has made me feel self-conscious and ashamed and was a real barrier to sharing the dream. Thank goodness I fought it -- you guys have pointed out so many important things :/

Basically, it feels like it comes down to feeling "fake" and worthless your whole life, and then being surprised that the faky-ness, the skills and coping strategies that one has developed, are valued by others -- the system -- so much more that you ever expected. As in, wow, as broken as I am, I function successfully and even deserve praise sometimes! With that, there is awareness of the true gold that has been broken and concealed. But, the dynamics of the world tempt one to turn that over to the dark side, too, if it's ever discovered, for a higher reward.

I am so glad that this pivotal point came up. Recently, I have just been contemplating and planning some major life changes, including resuming some things I put on a back burner and going back to school for a degree -- something that I, deep down, feel I owe to my true self. Perhaps this dream is a warning not to screw it up with a wrong or corrupted intent.


how much i enjoyed reading it. [..]for the last 9 months i've had a baby waking me up frequently enough to leave my dream life a mess of partially remembered fragments and I used to love reflecting on the meaning of them.

thank you! I remember those days :) they too will pass, but you are likely to remember them fondly, despite it all :flowers:
This is off-topic, but, have you seen this article: \\\http://www.sott.net/articles/show/188983-Children-should-sleep-with-parents-until-they-re-five- ??
I am only mentioning it because I had a much better overall quality of sleep when my son was little and slept with me, as opposed my (older) daughter who I tried to (with intermittent success) get to sleep by herself.
Still, I think I am still catching up on my sleep from all that time. :zzz:
 
I have kept all my babies with me until about age three but this last babe is really taking advantage of what I like to call "the all-night diner" for comfort lately. I think it's teething related and should be over soon but thanks anyway for the sympathetic suggestions.
 
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