Strange symbol on train?

[webglider]

Today I used the Flushing #7 line on the NYC subway system - a line I almost never use. I was startled to notice that that the symbol for the train - the #7 was a 7 enclosed in a diamond surrounded by an intense green circle that had an hynotic effect on me. I don't remember the colors for the other 7 and the circle, but they were duller and I had to really concentrate to separate the 7 from the diamond. Both were overpowered by the green which seemed to scintillate. I had to force myself to look away.

I kept thinking that this may be some kind of mind control technique. I haven't seen this kind of set up on any other line. The people who live along the 7 line are mostly Asian, Hispanic, East Indian immigrants. Is there a connection or am I just paranoid?

 

[Meg]

Hi Webglider,
The number 7 and the color green have quite a bit of symbolism in myth, nature and religion. Maybe the meaning/symbolism of the number 7 and the color green are what drew your attention?

 

[combsbt]

Funny, there's a wiki article on the 7 line (there's a wiki for everything nowadays) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_(New_York_City_Subway_service)

But both that and a google image search returned no results of the 7 having a green circle around it. Weird.

 

[webglider]

It's not just that the circle is green, it's that it is illuminated so that it is even difficult to focus on the number.

The reason that I am focusing on this is that the effect is like strobe headlights of cars. There was mention of this in one of the C's transcripts - that strobes have an hypnotic effect, and I was wondering if the circle was a strobe light, and why in the world would it be on that particular train.

I don't use all the New York subway lines, but I use quite a few and I've never seen anything like that light before.

 

[webglider]

Something else. There was an announcement that the last stop on the train would be one station before the usual last stop. When we reached that station a lot of people rose to get off, but there were a few people still on the train. I said to the guy next to me that he said firmly, "No it isn't".

Then, when I mentioned the annoouncement, and he pointed out that we were still on the track that would lead to the last station, so I and everyone else sat down and the train did pull into the last station.

I was wondering if this was an experiment in obeying authority, and if that green light were a means of distracting focus so that people wouldn't notice that the train was still on the same track.

I thought of 911 and how someone told people to return to the buildings and people did. I always wondered about that - how people would listen when they saw the the building was on fire.

 

[Buddy]

Hi webglider;

Those speculations are interesting. I don't suppose you could take and post a picture...perhaps with a camera-phone or something?
It could be a big help to those with knowledge of 'symbols'.

Another idea...is it possible to ask someone in the maintenance dept. of the NYC subway authority about this? Or someone who rides the train often who might have been witness to the painting or 'gossip' concerning it?

...just a coupla' ideas, fwiw

 

[webglider]

Another idea...is it possible to ask someone in the maintenance dept. of the NYC subway authority about this? Or someone who rides the train often who might have been witness to the painting or 'gossip' concerning it?

I'll take a picture next week, and try to find someone to help me post it.

A picture would help, I think. It seems my description is not clear.

The part of the logo that concerns me is not the "7" or the diamond that encloses it, but the circle of LIGHT that surrounds the two which seems to pulsate. The light is so intense that the symbols are sort of under awareness.
If there is some programming going on, the light seems to be a major factor.

I own no t.v. so when I'm in the presence of one, it has a strong effect on me. It's hard for me to pull myself away even if the channel is tuned to something in which I am not in the least interested. It's as though I am hypnotized, and I felt that effect as I stared at the circle of green light around the diamond encased "7". This train used to just have just an ordinary logo like all the others. None of the others I've seen, and I take the trains frequently, (but not all lines as I mentioned previously), have a have circles of light around eye level that pulls one in.

Years ago, before reading The Wave, I would never have given it a second thought. But after reading that strobe lights have the effect of making one unaware of what one sees, something as intense as that green circular light was a real shock. Or, as I also said previously, maybe it's just me...

 

[SeekingtheTruth]

I decided to do a search on the net for the symbol/logo that you've mentioned and this is what I found:

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2481

On No. 7 trains, red diamond means express, a green circle for local
BY PETE DONOHUE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
April 1st 2008


M. Roberts for NewsNo. 7 train riders looking to race from the subway platform to home plate at Shea Stadium should look for the diamond.

NYC Transit has begun rolling out subway trains with new digital signs brightly declaring if they are running express or local: a red diamond for express, a green circle for local.

The first train fully loaded with the broadsides hit the rails during last night's rush. More subway cars will be rigged in the coming weeks and months.

"It looks sharp," No. 7 line General Manager Louis Brusati said of the markings. "It will immediately tell people what train it is."


M. Roberts for NewsNYC Transit President Howard Roberts said: "It is another step in making the ride on the No. 7 line as smooth and effortless as possible."

Transit officials hope to trim train delays by making it easier to identify express and local trains. Service announcements are made on trains and in stations, but riders often are puzzled.

Straphangers regularly board trains before hustling back to the platform after learning they're on the wrong one. It's also common for someone to hold a train's doors open while asking those inside if the train is a local or express.

"That would be helpful," said Michel Vasiliou, a 31-year-old computer technician. "The drawback on the announcements is that sometimes they're not loud enough and you can't hear what train it is."

Audrey Molinare, a 28-year-old Queens nanny, also approved. "It's definitely a good idea if it would help with consistency," Molinare said.

Meanwhile, both No. 7 and L line riders will be the first to see a new transit communications strategy tested: digital signs or message boards in token booths and on station mezzanines. The wireless system will be used to tell riders about delays, route changes or other important information, Brusati said.

The first station in the six-station pilot may go online in about six or seven weeks, Brusati said.

The No. 7 and L lines are the first to feature a new management structure designed to increase accountability and improve service. Each line has a general manager instructed to run their line as if it's an independent railroad.

Images of the symbol/logo:

 

[webglider]

wow, seeking the truth, how fantastic that you found that information. I've been searching myself, but found nothing as illuminating, (pardon the pun), as this!!!

Well, what do you think? Is it what they say it is? It sounds plausible, but the light, (the photo did not capture its intensity), did have quite a powerful effect on me.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.....?

 

[Mountain Crown]

Transit officials hope to trim train delays by making it easier to identify express and local trains. Service announcements are made on trains and in stations, but riders often are puzzled.

The question that comes to mind then, is strobing necessary?

 

[Divide by Zero]

I've worked with LED's. Sometimes LED's strobe because they ideally run on DC-direct (steady) current. However, the power on the train for lighting is AC-alternating current, like your house which cycles 60 times a second back and forth. To convert this AC to DC, modern systems use transistors to pulse the power to make the right voltage for the bulbs, which induces flicker. The older style LED's do not flicker because they are fed a smoother power, instead of using pulsing.

You can also notice this effect on newer cars (Cadillacs) that have LED tailights.

Unfortunately, with the advent of switching power supplies (cheaper and more efficient), more and more lights are being run on this pulsed electricity.

 

[webglider]

Thank you Divide By Zero. When I rode that line again this week, I realized that the lights were LEDs, not strobes. Still, the pulsing is disturbing. This time I noticed that the circle of light existed outside the train, sort of suspended in air like a hologram.

What, if any, effect might this type of light have on the mind and the emotions?

 

[Beau]

What, if any, effect might this type of light have on the mind and the emotions?

Strobe lights are known to produce a hypnotic effect and make one more open to suggestion. Hence the use of strobe lights in television sets and computer screens. I think the C's talked about it somewhere, but I can't open the executable file on a Mac so I can't search the transcripts for the appropriate session.

 

[Pierre]

Strobe lights are known to produce a hypnotic effect and make one more open to suggestion. Hence the use of strobe lights in television sets and computer screens. I think the C's talked about it somewhere, but I can't open the executable file on a Mac so I can't search the transcripts for the appropriate seesion.

Here is a transcript excerpt that seems relevant :

Q: (L) Okay. You mentioned the strobe lights. Are these strobe lights that are used to control minds, are these something that we would or might come in contact with on a daily basis?
A: Do you not already know? We didn't say: some strobe lights, we said: strobe lights, i.e. all inclusive!
Q: (T) Strobe lights come in many forms and types. TV is a strobe light. Computer screens are a strobe light. light bulbs strobe. Fluorescents strobe. Streetlights strobe.
A: Police cars, ambulances, fire trucks... How long has this been true? Have you noticed any changes lately??!!??
Q: (F) Twenty years ago there were no strobe lights on any of those vehicles mentioned. They had the old flasher type lights. Now, more and more and more there are strobe lights appearing in all kinds of places. (L) And now, they even have them on school buses! (T) And the regular city buses have them too, now. (L) Okay, is the strobing of a strobe light, set at a certain frequency in order to do certain things?
A: Hypnotic opener.
Q: (L) Can we say that this is something we are being acclimated to, so that other things that happen to us in terms of our interactions... it just keeps one in a continual state of hypnosis?
A: Assumptions restrict the flow!
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the hypnotic opener being used
in this way?
A: You don't notice the craft.
Q: (L) Ohhhhhhhh! So we may be being continuously flown over by alien craft...
A: Assumption!
Q: (L) Sorry! (T) Okay, we don't notice the craft because we see the strobes. They are hypnotic openers and are inducing a hypnotic effect...
A: Assumption!
Q: (T) Okay, continue, then.
A: Well, ask a question, then!
Q: (L) Okay, they are telling us not to assume, but to ask. (T) Okay, what craft are we NOT seeing?
A: Opener. Is precursor to suggestion, which is auditory in nature.
Q: (T) What suggestion?
A: Put on your thinking caps. Networking is not making assumptions. Bold unilateral statement of "fact" is.
Q: (T) Oh. Phrase your statements in the form of a question! I'd like "Hypnotic Openers" for $200, Alex! Cosmic
Jeopardy! (L) Okay, you said the "suggestion is auditory in nature." If this is the case, where is the suggestion coming from auditory?
A: Where do you normally receive auditory suggestions from?
Q: (L) Radio, television... (T) Telephone... (L) Is that what we are talking about?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If you encounter a strobe while driving, or you are sitting in front of your television, then the suggestions can be put into you better because of this hypnotically opened state? Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What are these suggestions designed to do, to suggest? In a general sense?
A: Review.
Q: (L) Not see the craft?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Do we get these signals from the radio in the car even if it is turned off?
A: Depends upon whether or not there is another source

 

[webglider]

Q: (L) If you encounter a strobe while driving, or you are sitting in front of your television, then the suggestions can be put into you better because of this hypnotically opened state? Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What are these suggestions designed to do, to suggest? In a general sense?
A: Review.
Q: (L) Not see the craft?
A: Yes.

What does "craft" mean in this case: UFOs?, the method used to induce a suggestive state? or something else?

The 7 train serve areas in Queens which are near both Laguardia and Kennedy airports. That is why I ask about the meaning of "craft" in the above session.