synthétic DNA through vaccines

[aristar8]

Hello to all
I have a question that popped into my mind. Does someone knows if it is possible to implant synthetic ADN through vaccines so the persons would become programmable. It sounds a little weird but could that be done without the person's knowledge.

 

[Laura]

Aristar8, I changed the subject field to read "DNA" since that is how "ADN" is written in English.

I have never heard of synthetic DNA - has anyone else?

 

[Tomek]

Nop...

 

[Ellipse]

Re: synthétic DNA through vaccines

J.P Petit have wrote an article untitled "How to put a chip in your brain". The idea is to use the particularity of blood vessels in our inner ear which can be seen as a "bubbles trap". If the chip have the required size (think nanotechnology), it can be injected in the body with a vaccine an be trapped in the inner ear or small vessels in the brain.

_http://www.alientechnology.com/ (chips dealer, not a joke)
http://www.jp-petit.org/Presse/puce_dans_cerveau.htm (french article)

 

[Biomiast]

Re: synthétic DNA through vaccines

There are various synthetic DNAs for various purposes. There are even synthetic organisms that completely created in a laboratory. Although there are synthetic DNAs, they aren't different from a normal DNA.

It isn't necessary to use synthetic DNA to program you. Since DNA is in the cell, various drugs, environmental factors, neurochemicals, hormones etc. can program you and they can be placed in a vaccine to cause some programming in you.

If you mean changing the DNA of a person with an outside DNA source(synthetic or normal) through the vaccines, I would say it is possible. There is a field in genetics called Gene Therapy which cuts your defective gene and put a new, intact, functional gene in its place.

If you look at the technology that is currently available to normal scientists, gene therapy isn't an answer to the question you are asking because, as one of my professors who study gene therapy would like to say, there are three problems in gene therapy: Delivery, delivery, delivery. It is possible that people who work at top secret projects already get beyond those problems, and using vaccines to do such a thing.

For today, there are two classes of gene delivery method, one of them is viral gene delivery. I would imagine it is easy to take out the genetic material of a flu virus, place a programming DNA and label it as vaccine, but it may cause severe problems to the people who get the shots since scientists must calculate the docking site of the genetic material and its proliferation rate. If you want to kill everybody with vaccines, careless gene therapy is a perfect choice because you are basically creating a new virus! Have you watched "I am Legend" where they specifically talk about gene therapy and its outcomes?

The other is nonviral gene delivery, it has a few methods like liposomes etc but one of the methods is using nanoparticles to send DNA to a specific cell type so it is also easy for them to do such a thing in a vaccine.

In the end, it seems taking a vaccine can be more dangerous than we initially thought, if they want to do something bad to you. Considering H1N1 vaccines going around, I wonder what is in them...

 
edit: I think I didn't fully explain what is a synthetic DNA. It has the same building blocks of normal DNA, and Adenine Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine bases as usual, but its sequence is determined by the researcher. For example, they are used in the Polymerase Chain Reaction where you want to multiply a DNA segment, but you need a small complementary DNA fragment for DNA polymerase to hold onto your template and initiate chain reaction. For this reason you design a primer, 15-20 base pair and you send its sequence to companies. They create this synthetic DNA and send it to you for your use.

 

[RyanX]

My understanding is that there is plenty of DNA coming from animals (and in some cases fetuses) that enters the vaccines from the vaccine manufacture process. If this DNA comes from healthy, normal cells, it can program the immune system to attack similar healthy tissue in the body, thus causing various auto-immune disorders. At least that is one working hypothesis. I don't know if that's the sort of programming you're referring to?

Synthetic chemicals are already added to vaccines, so it's possible that synthetic biologicals will be added at some point as well.

 

[combsbt]

These two articles posted on SOTT may shed some light on your question:

It seems they have now synthesized RNA, but I am not aware of any full synthesis of DNA.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/184639-Life-s-First-Spark-Re-Created-in-the-Laboratory

It also appears that there may be less intrusive ways of changing our DNA than a direct injection of synthetic genetic material.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/184641-Pollution-Can-Change-Your-DNA-in-3-Days-Study-Suggests

There are various synthetic DNAs for various purposes. There are even synthetic organisms that completely created in a laboratory. Although there are synthetic DNAs, they aren't different from a normal DNA.

This I have not heard of... do you perhaps have some evidence to back this up?

 

[Biomiast]

Re: synthétic DNA through vaccines

This I have not heard of... do you perhaps have some evidence to back this up?

Here is a small wikipedia article about subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_Genomics

Here is a few links by the company who is doing it:

http://www.jcvi.org/cms/research/groups/synthetic-biology-bioenergy/

http://www.syntheticgenomics.com/index.htm

It seems they have now synthesized RNA, but I am not aware of any full synthesis of DNA.

This is a research that is done to understand which macromolecules came into the existence first, DNA, RNA or protein in an evolutionary sense. Its purpose isn't creating a synthetic DNA or RNA for our uses, but seeing whether it is possible to do it on early Earth, as the article says:

"The chemistry works very effectively from simple precursors, and the conditions required are not distinct from what one might imagine took place on the early Earth."

This was one of the fundamental questions of molecular biology, years ago, Francis Crick declared a "Central Dogma" that: "DNA makes RNA and RNA makes proteins." Lately, we have seen that RNA can make DNA with Reverse Transcriptase, so a popular claim is that RNA made both proteins and DNA and this is how evolution started. Up until now, nobody could create RNA in laboratory conditions(not that they couldn't create synthetic RNA, there are synthetic RNAs as well, used as "small interfering RNA" in RNA interference). They couldn't create it from inorganic compounds that one expect to see on early Earth.

 

[combsbt]

I was not able to find anything on the site that indicated they had created life from scratch (meaning fully synthetic). It all seems to be altering of life on a very fundamental physical level synthetically but not producing life synthetically. Maybe this is what you meant in the first place.

 

[Biomiast]

I was not able to find anything on the site that indicated they had created life from scratch (meaning fully synthetic). It all seems to be altering of life on a very fundamental physical level synthetically but not producing life synthetically. Maybe this is what you meant in the first place.

I think you are right. That word "completely" in my post is totally misleading. I apologize for my enthusiastic claim that they completely create synthetic organisms.