I've never posed a question to the C's before but these came up during a recent conversation and, after searching for an answer, I thought I'd share it. I apologize if it's already been covered, but I couldn't remember seeing it in any sessions or topics.
First off, what is the size of this army? Due to a lot of defecting from one group to another, and the fact that we must rely on 'estimates' for each individual group, it's hard to see exactly how many terrorists have been in one country at one point or another. 2011 seemed the year when the terrorist armies really took hold in the Middle East, and the 'Army of Darkness' took down Libya and began its offensive in Syria. So I started there.
The Moriarty's claimed that up to 250,000 head-choppers were participating in the destruction of Libya. When looking at the other conflicts, and assuming that these fighters moved following the Libyan conflict, that number seems relatively reliable - after the Libyan Civil War the number of insurgent groups in Syria exploded. It is also corroborated by a Kurdish leader who stated that ISIS alone had, by 2014, at least 200,000 fighters. This from a group that was estimated to be only a couple thousand strong in in November of 2012. So this shows the problem of trying to figure out the size of this army by relying on estimates. It also brings up the possibility that one reason there's a million and a half different 'rebel groups' is to hide the sheer size of this monster. After all, the size of the contingent the C's have said was sent to Europe is estimated to be around 60,360 strong (6% of an estimated 1,006,000 refugees):
In Syria the Free Syrian Army was formed in the beginning of the civil war in 2011, and by 2012 was estimated to be about 40,000 strong. It has recently been estimated to have reached 60,000 strong. So we could probably add the 40,000 to the 250,000 original estimate, since these fighters and the Libyan ISIS fighters can probably be reliably separated. After all, the Libyan 'civil war' started in February of 2011 and the Syrian 'civil war' started not too long after that in March of 2011.
So there is reason to believe that this army is at least a couple hundred thousand in size, to be able to topple Libya and then reinforce Syria with enough strength to send 60,000 onto Europe over the course of the refugee crisis. When you factor in other groups in Russia & China that number seems pretty reliable. But doesn't it seem like it just came out of nowhere?
So now my question is where could they have come from?
It seems plausible to me that, with Western intelligence and their cronies' documented efforts to infiltrate Muslim schools worldwide, many 'actual' terrorists have probably been groomed from an early age, and for quite some time too. After all, the current elite have been working on this since the 1980's, if not longer, and there is evidence that the 'radicalization of Islam' idea stretches back at least a century to the British and German elite. The rise of Wahabbism, the schizoidal idea that obeying any law other than Islamic law makes you a non-Muslim and therefore unworthy of life, fits into this too. The seeds of ponerization have been planted and tended by Western, Turkish, and Saudi elite for quite some time. The allure for psychopaths seeking to live a life of depravity no doubt echoes around the world and contributes to the thousands that leave Europe and America to join the groups.
With the US' torture and brain-washing programs no doubt there's a lot of radicalization going on there, too. A quick glimpse into the numbers of people who were brutally tortured in Iraq around 2003 reveals a startling number of at least 14,000 (Question of Torture). No doubt there were many, many more. Torture itself is a surefire way to create a radical base.
When adding in the numbers of mercenary companies that have exploded since the dawn of the war on terror, those numbers need to be factored in, and no doubt many of them are hard-up Syrians, Iraqis, Yemenis living in hell and who still need a paycheck. And there are regular soldiers who could easily have been caught up in Arab Spring style protests and turned against their governments. This is reported to have happened in Syria.
So those are my tentative answers for where all of the terrorists have come from, and what the size of the group is. It's really just hard to believe that an actual 'Army of Darkness' has been spawned in the Middle East. So in the end I still wonder what the C's would say.
First off, what is the size of this army? Due to a lot of defecting from one group to another, and the fact that we must rely on 'estimates' for each individual group, it's hard to see exactly how many terrorists have been in one country at one point or another. 2011 seemed the year when the terrorist armies really took hold in the Middle East, and the 'Army of Darkness' took down Libya and began its offensive in Syria. So I started there.
The Moriarty's claimed that up to 250,000 head-choppers were participating in the destruction of Libya. When looking at the other conflicts, and assuming that these fighters moved following the Libyan conflict, that number seems relatively reliable - after the Libyan Civil War the number of insurgent groups in Syria exploded. It is also corroborated by a Kurdish leader who stated that ISIS alone had, by 2014, at least 200,000 fighters. This from a group that was estimated to be only a couple thousand strong in in November of 2012. So this shows the problem of trying to figure out the size of this army by relying on estimates. It also brings up the possibility that one reason there's a million and a half different 'rebel groups' is to hide the sheer size of this monster. After all, the size of the contingent the C's have said was sent to Europe is estimated to be around 60,360 strong (6% of an estimated 1,006,000 refugees):
In Syria the Free Syrian Army was formed in the beginning of the civil war in 2011, and by 2012 was estimated to be about 40,000 strong. It has recently been estimated to have reached 60,000 strong. So we could probably add the 40,000 to the 250,000 original estimate, since these fighters and the Libyan ISIS fighters can probably be reliably separated. After all, the Libyan 'civil war' started in February of 2011 and the Syrian 'civil war' started not too long after that in March of 2011.
So there is reason to believe that this army is at least a couple hundred thousand in size, to be able to topple Libya and then reinforce Syria with enough strength to send 60,000 onto Europe over the course of the refugee crisis. When you factor in other groups in Russia & China that number seems pretty reliable. But doesn't it seem like it just came out of nowhere?
So now my question is where could they have come from?
It seems plausible to me that, with Western intelligence and their cronies' documented efforts to infiltrate Muslim schools worldwide, many 'actual' terrorists have probably been groomed from an early age, and for quite some time too. After all, the current elite have been working on this since the 1980's, if not longer, and there is evidence that the 'radicalization of Islam' idea stretches back at least a century to the British and German elite. The rise of Wahabbism, the schizoidal idea that obeying any law other than Islamic law makes you a non-Muslim and therefore unworthy of life, fits into this too. The seeds of ponerization have been planted and tended by Western, Turkish, and Saudi elite for quite some time. The allure for psychopaths seeking to live a life of depravity no doubt echoes around the world and contributes to the thousands that leave Europe and America to join the groups.
With the US' torture and brain-washing programs no doubt there's a lot of radicalization going on there, too. A quick glimpse into the numbers of people who were brutally tortured in Iraq around 2003 reveals a startling number of at least 14,000 (Question of Torture). No doubt there were many, many more. Torture itself is a surefire way to create a radical base.
When adding in the numbers of mercenary companies that have exploded since the dawn of the war on terror, those numbers need to be factored in, and no doubt many of them are hard-up Syrians, Iraqis, Yemenis living in hell and who still need a paycheck. And there are regular soldiers who could easily have been caught up in Arab Spring style protests and turned against their governments. This is reported to have happened in Syria.
So those are my tentative answers for where all of the terrorists have come from, and what the size of the group is. It's really just hard to believe that an actual 'Army of Darkness' has been spawned in the Middle East. So in the end I still wonder what the C's would say.
