The economy as it is.

[melatonin]

Hello there,

How long do you think the economy can keep going until it all goes crazy? Will it downturn very quickly at some point? Atm, here in England, things still 'seem' ok, but i know this isnt always going to be the case.
What will we see when this happens? Is there any clues to give an idea when its coming?

I ask this question because theres always people saying "next year", or "the year after".

Will it be a gangland like many doomsday preppers are saying?

 

[Mrs. Peel]

Hello there,

How long do you think the economy can keep going until it all goes crazy? Will it downturn very quickly at some point? Atm, here in England, things still 'seem' ok, but i know this isnt always going to be the case.
What will we see when this happens? Is there any clues to give an idea when its coming?

I ask this question because theres always people saying "next year", or "the year after".

Will it be a gangland like many doomsday preppers are saying?

Well, I assume you read the SOTT page? ;) Or are these questions you want to ask the C's? I don't think anyone here can give you "hard predictions" as to what exact day "X" is going to happen.

 

[1984]

I second Mrs Peel's question - do you read SOTT daily, and are connecting the dots? As well, are you up to date with the recommended reading here? Is your diet what it should be? Wondering about 'when' and 'what if' scenarios really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Working on the self and growing awareness is key to whatever 'may (or may not) come'. :)

 

[Joe]

Hello there,

How long do you think the economy can keep going until it all goes crazy? Will it downturn very quickly at some point? Atm, here in England, things still 'seem' ok, but i know this isnt always going to be the case.
What will we see when this happens? Is there any clues to give an idea when its coming?

I ask this question because theres always people saying "next year", or "the year after".

Will it be a gangland like many doomsday preppers are saying?

There is nothing real about 'the economy'. Our economic system is entirely manufactured and manipulated. As such, it does not have a definitive life-span and is not liable to any ailments or problems that are inherent within the system. It operates entirely on "sentiment" which is the sentiment of those who issue the money that makes up the monetary system. The economy is therefore a tool to control the population, and when it is deemed the right time to really squeeze the population, the economy can and will be 'tanked'. But it can as easily be resurrected again.

 

[Franco]

When you own all the debt and money creation, you can "crash" an economy any time.

Also, YOU might be fine, but if you take a look around in the UK and US a lot of people that were fine before are struggling.

Prices are up, jobs are down all over EU and the US, how many EU countries have basically claimed bankruptcy in the last 3 years and looking for hand outs?

Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Italy? Everyone will be touched by this at some point just be glad that you are ok right now and prepare for the worst.

 

[meta-agnostic]

One one level I agree with Perceval that the economy is totally controlled by our everyday standards. On some level, the big or small fluctuations that make it into the news are an orchestrated illusion. But factoring in the possibility of cometary/NEO bombardment, plague, ice age and who knows what other "wild cards" or "black swans" that may be in store, I'm not so sure this control can be maintained. Looking at the alternative media, quite a few people seem to be waking up to the reality of our illusory economy. Nowhere near a majority yet (although how can we really tell?), but no longer negligible. If/when one of these possible upcoming events disrupts the controlled economy and the alternative economy wonks are waiting in the wings to step in with something decentralized, will it be so easy for TPTB to get the old system going again? I'm not so sure.

 

[societe humaine]

Franco nailed it i think.

There are many people who prosper in a crashing or crashed economy. The controllers mostly, but there are plenty of sociopaths willing to fight for the right to profit from your misery. When the "economy" will "crash" for you personally, is anyone's guess. It all depends on what your morals will allow you to do in that economy to survive. legally, you can get away with murder!

I have been struggling to make a living from a business I started here in Gascone (sw france) for 5 years now. It has taken up far too much of my time, to find out the playing field is tilted way too far against me. A year ago, i decided the economy had already crashed; and have been spending time learning to live without earning money. This is all a topic for another thread I must start.

getting back to point, I certainly don't fear the economy anymore, in fact i am quietly looking forward to seeing what happens.

jeff

 

[Buddy]

I agree with others that there seems no way to know exactly what will (may) happen, when, how, etc. Interestingly, I also agree with the idea of the economy being mostly imaginary. Reason is because I think, at root, the problem is that coercive systems claim ownership of all resources and the right to distribute or ration them in whatever way they see fit. They also employ goons with guns to enforce their policies to ensure their continued dominance.

Should there be some major collapse worse than what the world has seen so far, these 'policies' may be largely unenforceable as the goons themselves will now face the question of how to survive. Maybe this will be a major opportunity for many people to roll up their sleeves in cooperation and get to work creating a new and better world.

It may be unfortunate that many people who totally depend on the system may wind up incapable of sustaining their lives, but that is why paying attention to reality and reducing dependence on the system now would likely bring much more return on how people invest their energy and time.

 

[whitecoast]

A year ago, i decided the economy had already crashed; and have been spending time learning to live without earning money. This is all a topic for another thread I must start.

I would actually be interested in hearing about this. :) I'm sure it certainly poses a different set of challenges from operating a small business or 9 to 5 job.

 

[melatonin]

I second Mrs Peel's question - do you read SOTT daily, and are connecting the dots? As well, are you up to date with the recommended reading here? Is your diet what it should be? Wondering about 'when' and 'what if' scenarios really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Working on the self and growing awareness is key to whatever 'may (or may not) come'. :)

Yeah, i read SOTT daily and i understand the work we are doing regardless of the control system. Was just intrested in peoples opinions on here. I feel like that fear of having no food etc controls me on a daily basis, finding it hard to break out of that. Ive fallen into one of their mind traps, that im sure of.

Edited to add:- Havent got the money to prepare for worst case scenario.