The face of dark matters

joejoeba

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I am sure I am jumping the gun but I couldn't help posting upon it now.

Ironically I find something quite empty in this front page article. Now I am sure that it is a breakthrough to have images of what looks like primordial gloop in some respects but the article itself seems devoid of explaination of it's true significance


For full article and picture:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2134891.ece

"The universe gives up its deepest secret


It is the invisible material that makes up most of the cosmos. Now, scientists have created the first image of dark matter
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Published: 08 January 2007
One of the greatest mysteries of the universe is about to be unravelled with the first detailed, three-dimensional map of dark matter - the invisible material that makes up most of the cosmos. "

Astronomers announced yesterday that they have achieved the apparently impossible task of creating a picture of something that has defied every attempt to detect it since its existence was first postulated in 1933.

Scientists have known for many years that there is more to the universe than can be seen or detected through their telescopes but it is only now that they have been able to capture the first significant 3D-image of this otherwise invisible material.

Unlike the ordinary matter of the planets, stars and galaxies, which can be seen through telescopes or detected by scientific instruments, nobody has seen dark matter or knows what it is made of, though calculations suggest that it is at least six times bigger than the rest of the visible universe combined.

A team of 70 astronomers from Europe, America and Japan used the Hubble space telescope to build up a picture of dark matter in a vast region of space where some of the galaxies date back to half the age of the universe - nearly 7 billion years.

They used a phenomenon known as gravitational lensing, first predicted by Albert Einstein, to investigate an area of the sky nine times the size of a full moon. Gravitational lensing occurs when light from distant galaxies is bent by the gravitational influence of any matter that it passes on its journey through space.

The scientists were able to exploit the technique by collecting the distorted light from half a million faraway galaxies to reconstruct some of the missing mass of the universe which is otherwise invisible to conventional telescopes.

"We have, for the first time, mapped the large-scale distribution of dark matter in the universe," said Richard Massey of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, one of the lead scientists in the team. "Dark matter is a mysterious and invisible form of matter, about which we know very little, yet it dominates the mass of the universe."

One of the most important discoveries to emerge from the study is that dark matter appears to form an invisible scaffold or skeleton around which the visible universe has formed.

Although cosmologists have theorised that this would be the case, the findings are dramatic proof that their calculations are correct and that, without dark matter, the known universe that we can see would not be able to exist.

"A filamentary web of dark matter is threaded through the entire universe, and acts as scaffolding within which the ordinary matter - including stars, galaxies and planets - can later be built," Dr Massey said. "The most surprising aspect of our map is how unsurprising it is. Overall, we seem to understand really well what happens during the formation of structure and the evolution of the universe," he said.

The three-dimensional map of dark matter was built up by taking slices through different regions of space much like a medical CT scanner build a 3-D image of the body by taking different X-ray "slices" in two dimensions.

Data from the Hubble telescope was supplemented by measurements from telescopes on the ground, such as the Very Large Telescope of the European Southern Observatory in Chile and the Japanese Subaru telescope in Hawaii.

Details of the dark matter map were released yesterday at the annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Seattle and published online by the journal Nature. The map stretches half way back to the beginning of the universe and shows that dark matter has formed into "clumps" as it collapsed under gravity. Other matter then grouped around these clumps to form the visible stars, galaxies and planets.

"The 3-D information is vital to studying the evolution of the structures over cosmic time," said Jason Rhodes of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.

Astronomers have compared the task of detecting dark matter to the difficulty of photographing a city at night from the air when only street lights are visible.

Scientists said the new images were equivalent to seeing a city, its suburbs and country roads in daylight for the first time. Major arteries and intersections become evident and a variety of neighbourhoods are revealed.

"Now that we have begun to map out where dark matter is, the next challenge is to determine what it is, and specifically its relationship to normal matter," Dr Massey said. "We have answered the first question about where the dark matter it, but the ultimate goal will be to determine what it is."

Various experiments on Earth are under way to try to find out what dark matter is made of. One theory is that it is composed of mysterious sub-atomic particles that are difficult to detect because they do not interact with ordinary matter and so cannot be picked up and identified by conventional scientific instruments. Comparing the maps of visible matter and dark matter have already pointed to anomalies that could prove critical to the understanding of what constitutes dark matter."

What can we glean from this? Where does the differentiation between 2D and 3D happen here. We have an image. We know where it is but not what it is. The whole thing seems to suggest some weird other purpose. To understand this is vastly beyond me and that may be why I feel in my gut that all is highly dubious in it's professed breakthrough. " an invisible scaffold or skeleton around which the visible universe has formed" in pictures. Is this big news? I mean it is fascinating but WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN for us?? Does knowing this change anything? A gravitational lense.
Sounds impressive. But you could just make this up!!

Maybe someone could enlighten me a bit.
 
More here: http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMZ6GSVYVE_index_1.html

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Thanks for the illustration Johnno. The formation seems to resemble something close to salt crystal formation. It's a bit like lagoon blue ectoplasm.

Theres some of that dark matter in us all.
 
Gravitational lensing is a real technique. Some of the galactic dark matter observations may also involve dark energy. The link below has some more pictures and very detailed physics related to the pictures. What does it all mean? It's a lot about trying to have models and observations agree and it does not have to be that one model is right and the others wrong; various aspects of different models can be right. For me, from a SOTT point of view, it's more evidence for why Ark uses the word "conformal" so much. The idea of dark matter as Planck Mass black holes (very small ones) could have esoteric SOTT-related significance but that is jumping the gun. It's OK to entertain ideas that jump the gun as long as you don't overplay the ideas to the point where you and others end up on wild goose chases too often (unfortuneately the rather large superstring physics community may be quite guilty of this).


http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/Aug06SuppDMDE.pdf
 
appreciate The link.

I read that the quality of the dark energy is smooth and spread evenly about space, and slowly evolves, if at all.

Can you apply the term evolution to what you'd think is a mineral of some sort? I think that 70% of the earth being water and also the universe being dark matter, there is a correlation there of sorts. Of all minerals I would call the changes in water's form, and the life supporting qualities of it, the most similar to being a live being.

Is this dark matter and energy the ocean of space where all other matter dwells? restricted only in infinity my where it has not yet reached?

or is that overplaying ideas.........
 
If you pretended the earth was expanding while perhaps the land masses were staying rigid during the expansion and that the dark energy/vacuum/conformal gravity/complex spacetime was represented by the earth's interior then you might have an analogy for what is going on. The land masses though would need some parts that weren't effected when land masses collide. Since I mentioned vacuum in relation to dark energy then relative to us you can think of dark energy as where things come from but at the most fundamental 7th density level you probably don't have this concept of dark energy and the infinity you talk about may be something more like a pool of pure math information from which one can draw from as needed without draining the pool. Even if you were starting to overplay, you'd need to do it for a long time and get others involved to really be overplaying and if one is really worried about overplaying then one can always stick the idea in the entertainment category when budgeting your time.
 
Hi JayMark, did you notice that you're responding to a thread that is 5.5 years old?
 
anart said:
Hi JayMark, did you notice that you're responding to a thread that is 5.5 years old?

Ahhh... am I?

*Looks at thread date*

And...

*Looks at current date*

Hummm, I am quite indeed.

*Coughs*

Thanks for the notice anart.

:-[
 
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