The importance of the Universe being bigger than I thought it was.

Menna

The Living Force
http://www.sott.net/article/292517-Where-are-we-in-the-universe-Most-detailed-map-yet

The above article contains a video and can be found on the SOTT website. Thanks to laura for posting this article.

After reading the article and watching the video I thought to myself "Wow the universe is bigger than anyone ever thought or can comprehend there are so many moving parts the energy must be endless."

After this thought popped into my head I started to think how can this new discovery of the size of the Universe have a direct impact on my life and everyone else's.

The first thought that popped into my mind was non-anticipation. There is a C's session about the importants of non anticipating however because of recent events I can not locate and post the session here.

I posted this in "The Work" section because so many of us have done "The work" to learn about ourselves, life and how to better ourselves and how to better interact with life, people, places and things here on earth. This is all well and good but there is another compnent that I believe should be recognized. It has been documented that there are powers/energy that influences our lives outside of this earth this is where non anticipation comes in. I believe a very important part of "The Work" is working on Non-anticipation improving week by week month by month to allow the Universe to work for you. If you expect or anticipate certain results you are constricting the flow of the universe as you can see from the article/video we are no match for it and will never be smarter or more powerful I believe more success can come from trusting its workings not trying to control it.

You see if we chose to be here on some level and our souls are all part of the one, after seeing this video I truly believe that the universe has enough energy/power or whatever you want to call it to provide us with the opportunities we need IF WE LET IT and are able to recognize it. The best way to let the universe help you is by non anticipation this is the first part and the second part is being able to recognize when opportunities are presented to you. The third part would be to do your duties whatever that may be within the opportunity and look at the results (check with life to see if you on the right path).

1)Non anticipation to allow the universe to provide for you in its fullest...

(2) Work on self to learn about self, life and others to recognize the opportunities...

(3) Develop your will/improve your physical, mental, emotional health to be able to work/complete tasks within the opportunities.

(4) Observe the results to see if you are on the right path.

After reading the article and watching the video I have bumped working on non-anticipation up on my "Work" list...

These are my thoughts... :cool:
 
Menna said:
You see if we chose to be here on some level and our souls are all part of the one, after seeing this video I truly believe that the universe has enough energy/power or whatever you want to call it to provide us with the opportunities we need IF WE LET IT and are able to recognize it. The best way to let the universe help you is by non anticipation this is the first part and the second part is being able to recognize when opportunities are presented to you. The third part would be to do your duties whatever that may be within the opportunity and look at the results (check with life to see if you on the right path). (

1)Non anticipation to allow the universe to provide for you in its fullest...

(2) Work on self to learn about self, life and others to recognize the opportunities...

(3) Develop your will/heal improve your health to be able to work/complete tasks within the opportunities.

I agree. I like to look at in this way, partially inspired by philosopher William Dembski's book Being as Communion: at the most basic level, we are information receivers/transducers/creators. As above, so below. As parts of the whole, we are made in such a way as to allow for the possibility of recognizing, becoming, and actualizing universal goals, what Tom Nagel might call the natural teleological laws of the cosmos. Like you say, we need to recognize the opportunities - we need to have enough awareness in order to SEE the possibilities. So, as information processors, we need to utilize the three main functions: expand the information inputted into our consciousness, by continually learning. (Caesar: 'experience is the teacher of all things') We need the being and experience to respond to that information and process it. And we need the will to turn that into action in the world, to use our inherent causal power to bring about certain ends. By achieving these small goals (from our perspective), we can possibly contribute to goals much larger than we are aware of. As the universe's 'debugging units'.
 
Menna said:
After reading the article and watching the video I thought to myself "Wow the universe is bigger than anyone ever thought or can comprehend there are so many moving parts the energy must be endless."

After this thought popped into my head I started to think how can this new discovery of the size of the Universe have a direct impact on my life and everyone else's.

I thought that it was long ago that the universe is believed to be infinite, at least I remember going a bit crazy when at age 3 or 4 I asked my parents what was behind the universe, and they said just more of the same, and it was just too big to fit in my head, and I got rather uncomfortable and kept trying to imagine infinity (which is bigger than bigger), and gave me a feeling of falling through space infinitively, and so in the end to calm myself, and not go insane, I decided that behind the universe there was these colored wooden blocks I played with at the time, so I could move on to paint horses on the walls of the living room and such normal kid stuff.

Since that I have not been surprised that the universe is bigger than thought, as I already thought about it.

Menna said:
(4) Observe the results to see if you are on the right path.

Though this is certainly true at times, there is also sometimes that one meets a lot of resistance when on the right path, so sometimes things not going so well, are not an indicator of not being on the right path OSIT

But working on not anticipating is valuable work indeed!
 
I like the C's words 'Universe only exist for experience'. The definition of experience varies depending many factors. The experience of molecule at the edge of dendrite in our brain has its own experience/challenges and we as a human have our own. It's reasonable to think that Planets, solar systems, Galaxies, super clusters and beyond have their own. Just like conscientious CEO feel for the company and people impacted by it. One common factor at all level may be input/output/processing whether conscious or unconscious which create experience.
 
I think another point is also important and complementary: every one has to work hard. There's no sitting back and doing nothing and simultaneously allowing the universe to provide everything.

After doing hard work, then that's where the non anticipation comes in. Because hard work does not guarantee desired results.
 
I thought that it was long ago that the universe is believed to be infinite, at least I remember going a bit crazy when at age 3 or 4 I asked my parents what was behind the universe, and they said just more of the same, and it was just too big to fit in my head, and I got rather uncomfortable and kept trying to imagine infinity (which is bigger than bigger), and gave me a feeling of falling through space infinitively, and so in the end to calm myself, and not go insane, I decided that behind the universe there was these colored wooden blocks I played with at the time, so I could move on to paint horses on the walls of the living room and such normal kid stuff.

Since that I have not been surprised that the universe is bigger than thought, as I already thought about it.

There is a difference between hearing someone say the universe is infinite at 3 years old and watching and reading the truth in your late 20's after 7 years of research and "The Work" I am not saying this to compaire or to put down I am saying this to point out that the two people can come across the same information however their experience in life and how the information is presented will impact a person differently. Also to hear something from someone has a different impact on ones being than seeing and reading the same information

You mention the word resistance this is not what I am talking about. If you drive to work every morning and there is traffic (resistance) should you quit your job and go home obviously no. Some resistance is part of the way life is. However if you lets say apply for over 100 jobs in your field and don't get called in for an interview or you are training to be a professional swimmer for the last 5yrs following all training protacol, diet swimming practice 6x a week and so on and year after year you come in last maybe life is telling you to go do something else. Resistance is expected because it is organic to life
 
I think another point is also important and complementary: every one has to work hard. There's no sitting back and doing nothing and simultaneously allowing the universe to provide everything.

After doing hard work, then that's where the non anticipation comes in. Because hard work does not guarantee desired results.

Thank you for posting this by putting non anticipation first and keeping it there I feel I was influenced by black and white thinking. Non anticipation should come before, during and after every step in the first post and second one in this thread.

Very true about hard work just like good intentions doesn't mean good results. "Even if you are on the right path you will get run over if you just sit there" hard work with balance mixed in is needed I agree and in my first post this is what I ment when I said doing your duties.

I definitely didn't start this thread thinking that my thought would solve everyone's problem and people can just sit back and non anticipate and a pot of gold will be delivered to them. Life is hard, tricky and unfair at times no way around it however as people know through "The Work" and information presented here on the forum there are certain peices of knowledge that can help one through life more effectively/efficiently all I hope is that this information strikes some as a tool they can use to make their life better in some type of way
 
Menna said:
Life is hard, tricky and unfair at times no way around it however as people know through "The Work" and information presented here on the forum there are certain peices of knowledge that can help one through life more effectively/efficiently all I hope is that this information strikes some as a tool they can use to make their life better in some type of way

It does menna, thank you for bringing this issue, makes reading this thread, I remembered as a child while, I was amazed at the vastness of the universe, with a lot of unanswered questions, after reading your post, personally I have to fight with the anticipation, I think it's one of my enemy, I have to learn to just do things, and let the universe take care of the rest, I think it has blocked some things in my life with anticipation.
 
Menna said:
I think another point is also important and complementary: every one has to work hard. There's no sitting back and doing nothing and simultaneously allowing the universe to provide everything.

After doing hard work, then that's where the non anticipation comes in. Because hard work does not guarantee desired results.

Thank you for posting this by putting non anticipation first and keeping it there I feel I was influenced by black and white thinking. Non anticipation should come before, during and after every step in the first post and second one in this thread.

Very true about hard work just like good intentions doesn't mean good results. "Even if you are on the right path you will get run over if you just sit there" hard work with balance mixed in is needed I agree and in my first post this is what I ment when I said doing your duties.

I definitely didn't start this thread thinking that my thought would solve everyone's problem and people can just sit back and non anticipate and a pot of gold will be delivered to them. Life is hard, tricky and unfair at times no way around it however as people know through "The Work" and information presented here on the forum there are certain peices of knowledge that can help one through life more effectively/efficiently all I hope is that this information strikes some as a tool they can use to make their life better in some type of way

Thank you Menna, I needed this reminder. Narcissism sneaks over and over again in my mind ("fueled" by bitterness and wish-thinking).
The sticking point is likely that it is hard to find the balance. One should parallel to the non-anticipation also working on his/her trauma and ego, so that this can be achieved.
 
Menna said:
I thought that it was long ago that the universe is believed to be infinite, at least I remember going a bit crazy when at age 3 or 4 I asked my parents what was behind the universe, and they said just more of the same, and it was just too big to fit in my head, and I got rather uncomfortable and kept trying to imagine infinity (which is bigger than bigger), and gave me a feeling of falling through space infinitively, and so in the end to calm myself, and not go insane, I decided that behind the universe there was these colored wooden blocks I played with at the time, so I could move on to paint horses on the walls of the living room and such normal kid stuff.

Since that I have not been surprised that the universe is bigger than thought, as I already thought about it.

There is a difference between hearing someone say the universe is infinite at 3 years old and watching and reading the truth in your late 20's after 7 years of research and "The Work" I am not saying this to compaire or to put down I am saying this to point out that the two people can come across the same information however their experience in life and how the information is presented will impact a person differently. Also to hear something from someone has a different impact on ones being than seeing and reading the same information

I thought that I had maybe sounded arrogant later after posting, and I'm sorry if I did. I just thought it strange that one can be surprised that something infinite is bigger than thought, which reminded me of the first time I heard about infinity...

Menna said:
You mention the word resistance this is not what I am talking about. If you drive to work every morning and there is traffic (resistance) should you quit your job and go home obviously no. Some resistance is part of the way life is. However if you lets say apply for over 100 jobs in your field and don't get called in for an interview or you are training to be a professional swimmer for the last 5yrs following all training protacol, diet swimming practice 6x a week and so on and year after year you come in last maybe life is telling you to go do something else. Resistance is expected because it is organic to life

Could you give an example of what would be a result that would tell you that you are on the right path?
 
viewing and reading the objective facts for me have had a bigger influence on me than someone saying "it's infinite". The article put the word infinite and the Universe into perspective more so than someone saying the word "Infinite"

For example someone saying graduating with a PHD in núrophysics is "hard" yes we all hear its hard and can imagine its hard however to put the word hard into perspective by showing someone how much work is required IMO will have a different impact than just hearing its hard by seeing and read about all the material required to complete the PHD you get a perspective of how hard it will be. To me this example relates to a parent saying the universe is infinite to a child ok great but actually gaining a perspective on infinity by seeing how big it is known to be now based on new information has a different impact on me than just hearing someone say "The universe is infinite" I guess this article puts the word infinite into perspective for me.

An example of being on the right track would be the opposite of the examples I gave. Applying for 5 jobs being called in for 3 interviews and getting hired. Dedicating yourself to a required training protocol and placing high in the rankings
 
Menna said:
To my previous post viewing and reading the objective facts for me have had a bigger influence on me then someone saying "it's infinite" has bigger meaning is the universe infinite? I don't think we objectively know however we do objectively know how big it is based on the new information in the article.

For example someone saying graduating with a PHD in núrophysics is "hard" yes we all hear its hard and can imagine its hard however to put the word hard into perspective by showing someone how much work is required IMO will have a different impact than just hearing its hard by seeing and read about all the material required to complete the PHD you get an objective idea how hard it will be for you. To me this example relates to a parent saying the universe is infinite to a child ok great but actually gaining a perspective on infinity by seeing how big it is known to be now based on new information has a different impact on me than just hearing someone say "The universe is infinite" I guess this article puts the word infinite into perspective for me.

I understand.
Maybe it is not normal to have thought about it in the way I did -trying to find the limits of infinity, by mentally traveling out to find them , and realizing what infinity means, or at least that it is so enormous that one has to give up in the end and put colored wooden blocks there to find peace (I knew better than to ask myself what was then behind the colored wooden blocks, and have not since traveled out to see if they are still there, as the experience was quite overwhelming so I still get a bit shaky by the thought )

Menna said:
An example of being on the right track would be the opposite of the examples I gave. Applying for 5 jobs being called in for 3 interviews and getting hired dedicating yourself to a required protocol and placing high in the rankings

I think this can both be true and not.
It also depends what "being on the right track" means. Sometimes worldly success (like getting the job you want) is not showing that you have come further in "the work", and sometimes the times of very little worldly success are the times when one is evolving mostly "work"wise (at least it has been for me at times)

I think it is a little like the law of attraction. It's true to some extend. What we give out we get back. But sometimes the best people are the ones with the worst luck (being poor, sick, or traumatized). It might be that it is still a sign that one is doing something wrong, but I think it is dangerous to think that the people who have good health and good jobs are further in the work than people who are sick and having a bad job or no job, which one can tend to think when measuring if one is on the right track by worldly success..
 
Miss.K said:
I think this can both be true and not.
It also depends what "being on the right track" means. Sometimes worldly success (like getting the job you want) is not showing that you have come further in "the work", and sometimes the times of very little worldly success are the times when one is evolving mostly "work"wise (at least it has been for me at times)

I think it is a little like the law of attraction. It's true to some extend. What we give out we get back. But sometimes the best people are the ones with the worst luck (being poor, sick, or traumatized). It might be that it is still a sign that one is doing something wrong, but I think it is dangerous to think that the people who have good health and good jobs are further in the work than people who are sick and having a bad job or no job, which one can tend to think when measuring if one is on the right track by worldly success..

If someone stands for truth and dedicates themselves to the Work, the General Law/4DSTS will go to all measures to stop that person making any progress.
[quote author=Cs]Q: Are you suggesting that this sickness of his mother's has been caused from 4th density STS?
A: Lesson number 1: Always expect attack. Lesson number 2: Know the modes of same. Lesson number 3: Know how to counteract same. [/quote]

Attack can and will come in any form - your job, your health, family etc
With this in mind, being on the "right track" would be paying attention to objective reality, making choices based on your knowledge and acting accordingly. If someone is doing this then the universe recognizes this attempt to align with itself, and naturally opens up all possibilities for that individual. This could manifest as new job opportunities, health issues clearing up, new relationships or in fact anywhere that is currently "blocked" in ones life.

"Blocks" in ones life are usually because the person does not pay attention to reality and make choices which would benefit them due to any number of reasons. So it is not necessarily measuring ones progress in the Work by "worldly success", its more about those who have removed blocks in their lives due to making the right choices IMO.
 
hlat said:
I think another point is also important and complementary: every one has to work hard. There's no sitting back and doing nothing and simultaneously allowing the universe to provide everything.

After doing hard work, then that's where the non anticipation comes in. Because hard work does not guarantee desired results.

I also think that's very important. To me, non-anticipation at the moment usually is about not imagining the future (both short term and long term) and instead focus on what needs immediate attention. For example, when I get caught up in thoughts like "where will I be in 2 years?", "How will I survive?", "what would be the best outcome of this or that?", I try to force myself to think about something tangible, like "I need to clean the yard", "what can I do now in this moment that would be a good act towards someone", "why don't I post something on the forum/social media", "what is expected from me job-wise at the moment and what can I do now to better meet these expectations" etc. And from my experience, the universe really does give back when I follow that path, though usually in unexpected ways and not always immediately! I think it's important to observe reality closely to notice these things, which in turn strengthens your faith in the universe/DCM.
 
but I think it is dangerous to think that the people who have good health and good jobs are further in the work than people who are sick and having a bad job or no job,

Although I agree with your statement I don't see where you infer that is what anyone said here in this thread. I am posting this to hopefully help people through life. There was no remark about if you are rich you are far along in the work.

which one can tend to think when measuring if one is on the right track by worldly success..

I think you have miss understood me. "The Work" is important however I think it is more important to be practical and adjust/adapt to life. I am not saying material success is a direct correlation to your success in the work and IMO the opposite is true. What I am saying regardless of "The Work" is you have to pay bills, shelter clothes food with enough time and energy to pursue other areas such as "The Work" so my example was about if you are pursing something and its taking up your energy, time and providing little to support you and your family than life might be telling you to change it up. When I used the word path I didn't mean "The work" i meant practical life path that is suppose to provide the necessary "stuff" for you to live the life you want.
 

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