THE MISTERY OF BELICENA VILLCA

[ana]

There is a book I am reading now "The mistery of Belicena Villca" wich really has shocked me. , I found it in a blog of a member of this forum,
Here you are some paragraphs: "I'll try to translate it as best as possible, because the book is in Spanish"
Also compared with some Cass transcripts...



This instrument allows to Hiperboreans Initiates know the extraterrestrial origin of the human spirit
and acquire the enough wisdom to return to the origin, finally leaving the demential Universe of Matter and Energy, of the Created Forms.

The unknowable God, from whom nothing can be said here, Navután, and other gods, were angry because a sector of the Spirit of the Race was arrested in the Universe of Matter and the anger was not directed only against the Powers of Matter that kept the spirits, but also against the weak spirit, against the Spirit with lack of grace will to break the illusion of the Great Deception and free itself.
On Earth, the Spirit had been chained to the animal man in order to make his volitional strength accelerate the evolution of the psychic structure of it.
and the chain was so tight, the Spirit was so immersed in the psychic nature of the animal man that he had forgotten his origin and believed to be a product of the Nature and the Powers of Matter , a creation of the Gods.
Since the Spirit remained on Earth, the liberating gods, their spirit brothers came to his aid, and many were released, for that reason terrible battles were fought against the Powers of Matter.
Recently, for example, had crossed the Origin, and was presented to the men of Atlantis the major head of all the Hiperborean prisioner race,
Lord of the uncreated beauty of Forms, the Lord of Absolute Value , the Lord of the uncreated Light, the envoy of the unknowable god to free the spirit, (The Kristos of uncreated light, Luci Bel, Kristos Lucifer) But the manifestation of Lucifer Kristo in Atlantis caused the destruction of the material civilization.
Battle of Atlantis ended with the sinking of the continent long after they had returned to the origin.

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Q: (L) Can you tell us more about the six billion people on the planet at the time of Noah's flood. Where were most of
these beings living?
A: Atlantis.

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Q: (L) Who is Lucifer?
A: You. The human race.


The spirit is uncreated , ie not created by the Creator God therefore anything that happens here can tarnish essentially, the Spirit is innocent and pure in the eternity of Origin, That's why Navutan says the Hiperborean spirit, belonging to a warrior race warrior, can only express a critical attitude of hostility towards the world of God the Creator, can only rebel to the material order, can only doubt the reality of the world of the Great Deception can only reject as false or foe anything that is not a product itself, ie the Spirit and can only encourage Wisdom with a single purpose: to leave the world of God,the Creator,where he is a slave and return to the unknowable world, where it will be a god again.

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Q: (A) God is also an illusion?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Illusion to whom?
A: To those not on level 7. Your learning naturally dictates your experiences. Once you no longer require something, you
naturally move beyond it. However, you retain it as a function of understanding.

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Q: (DM) Everyone has a creator.
A: We are not creator any more than you are. We are all creator!

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Q: (L) What creates this environment of limitation?
A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of learning.
Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place?
A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you and us and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice
versa. And so is everything else.
Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion?
A: Basically, yes.

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Q: (L) Does this mean that to worry about the body in any way is wrong?
A: Close. Don't concentrate on life in the body. Concentrate on the spirit.


The covenant of culture on wich the dark atlanteans based their partnership was essentially different from the Covenant of Blood
That agreement was based on the perpetual support of a Cult, The cult demanded the unconditional adoration of the members of the native people to a god, and the fulfillment of His Will, which is manifested through their representatives, formed a priestly caste, educated by the dark Atlanteans. Their mission was to build a great civilization out of which, at the end of time, would be a chosen people of God which would be given reign over all the peoples of the Earth, but it was written that this could not materialize without expelled from the Earth the enemies of Creation who dared to discover the plans of God to men who rebelled and get away from their designs. Then will come the final battle between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness, between those who worship the Creator God with heart and those who understand the serpent with the mind.

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Q: (L) What happened to free will?
A: Brotherhood AKA Lizards AKA antichrist has interfered with free will for 309000 years. They are getting desperate
as we near the change.

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Q: (L) Who was Yahweh?
A: False teacher.
Q: (RC) Who was Jehovah?
A: Moniker variance of previous answer.
Q: (L) And what was the desired result of the Hebrew genetic manipulation?
A: Further control through the fostering of mistrust and hostility, leading to enslavement and warring.

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Q: (L) How is infinite power acquired by knowing this code? If you don't know the correspondences, how can you use a
numerical code?
A: Lord of Serpent promises its followers infinite power which they must seek infinite knowledge to gain, for which they
pledge allegiance infinitely for which they possess for all eternity, so long as they find infinite wisdom, for which they
search for all infinity.


The liberating Gods never spoke of peace but of War and Strategy and then the strategy was to stay on alert and preserve the agreed site with the white Atlanteans until the day that the theater of the Esencial War move back to Earth, But fulfilling the mission, with the Covenant of Blood keep the people on alert, required some technical a special way of life that allows them to live as aliens on Earth.
There were three concepts, the principle of the occupation, the top of fence, and the principle of the Wall. First, should never forget the principle of territorial occupation and would have to finally dispense with the principle of land ownership. In other words the habited land was occupied land not own land, ¿occupied to whom? To the enemy the powers of matter.
Understood and accepted the principle of Occupation should come second,the fence off the occupied territory Why? because the top of the fence allowed to separate the occupied territory from enemy territory (internal and external meaning) when you have a fenced the occupied area will be possible to produce plant and soil.
The principle of the Wall was the application of the fence, the real projection.
According to the Wisdom of the white Atlantians , there are many worlds in which the Spirit was a prisoner and each of them required a different specification of principles of the Wall.
They advised to "look with an eye toward the wall and the other to the origin" which would only be possible if the wall was in any way relating to the origin

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Q: That means that they can control your thoughts and emotions, put ideas into your head, and you think it is a good idea
to "save" someone. You don't know. It is taught in our religions and culture to give until it hurts, and, in fact, to give
because it hurts. The whole situation is designed and controlled from another level. Any further comment on this subject?
A: Once you have truly learned the program, just plug it in.

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Q: (AM) Take a deep breath and hold... [aura photo of L is taken] (L) [looking at aura photo of self] This is very
strange, guys. How come I am not in this picture and F shows up in his? Why have I physically disappeared?
A: Learning builds spiritual growth, and awareness "solidifies" knowledge

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Q: (L) What did the Atlanteans do to bring this on us?
A: We cannot answer you at this time.
Q: (L) What can protect us?
A: Knowledge.
Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?
A: You are being given it through this source now.
Q: (L) What knowledge do you mean?
A: You have it.
Q: (L) How does the knowledge of what you have told us help us?
A: Gives great defense.
Q: (L) What knowledge gives defense?
A: Just knowing about it gives psychic defense.

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Q: (L) Do demons and evil spirits fear anything?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they fear any power that we, as humans, possess?
A: Yes. Knowledge


And these would be condemned by YHVH, especially those emerging from the White Race, the ones wich will not forget their origin, which will make the stone seed germinate in the man of mud, will set off the rebellion against the Law of YHVH and the hatred to the Creation.

Collectively, therefore, the greatest wisdom is revealed at the end during the final battle at a time that all Warriors Wise simultaneously recognize

How? the opportunity would be recognized with the pure blood, in an internal perception, or with the "Stone of Venus."


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Q: Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar format as it did at its inception?
A: Yes
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the Quorum?
A: No.
Q: Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in opposition, or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.
Q: Is there any particular thing about this that I ought to ask at the moment that I am not going to discover in the course
of my research? The mail group asked a few questions about this, so I thought I ought to approach the subject. Is the
Nordic Covenant made between people who are blond and blue-eyed?
A: Not the central issue.
Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular
bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.
Q: What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!
Q: Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the same ones involved with the genetic engineering of new
bodies for the Lizzies to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
A: No.
Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and
all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.
Q: You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it could be positive or negative. So, if that is the negative
side of it, is the positive the same, or different?
A: Too complex for your current understanding.
Q: Is the 'buried treasure' of the Templars or Cathars, or whoever, manuscripts from the Alexandrian library telling about
the true origin and nature of man?
A: Well if so, maybe that would explain the structure you live under.

Well what do you think? Did any of you read the book?

 

[ana]

A little bit more...



Anyone who has lived closing his/her eyes to the Truth, has become too weak to hold the gaze of the great deceiver.

Cunning is the result of an evolutionary instinct animal and characterizes the behavior of an animal man or soul man, ie, the man with created body and soul. Remember only that in the sleeping man, the lost " self" is immersed in the individual conscious mind, ie confused with the evolutionary soul.

I have chosen to consider here the lost self directly linked to the reason, ie, to the subject rational mind, by virtue of being this subject who is closer to the World and whoever receives the first impressions of the external entities.
By "reason" in any case has to be understood, "the subject of evolutionary mind" own of animal man
who evolves through the action of the confused " self ", the manifestation of the chain Spirit.

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A: Just because their conscious minds rationalize a "psychic" impulse of awareness at another level does not
mean they are right.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there is a psychic impulse, or awareness at another level, of something going on,
and this cues them into the fact that something is going to appear, and they have come up with a rational
explanation for it that may or may not be correct. In other words, because they had awareness, because
they showed up and saw lights in the sky, does not mean that these lights are necessarily UFOs as they are
commonly understood, is that it?
A: Yes.





1.)

a - The prisoner is at the mercy of their guards, who kept in perpetual bondage.
b - The Self of the slept man , is the perpetual prisoner of the "reason", ie of the evolutive soul.

c - The "prisoner" and the self are analogs



2.)

a - The "guardians" are the dynamic intermediaries, among the "prisoner" and the "outside world

b - The "reason" is the intermediary dynamic, very poor, between the self and the "outside world" (in the asleep
man).

c - The "guards" and "reason" are analogs (remember that when reason develops a "law of nature" intervenes the mathematical principles and the "pre-eminent cultural assumptions").



3.)

a - The "guards" rely on an "own language", different from the language of the prisoner, which he has forgotten

b - The "reason" uses logical methods, different from the "primary Hyperborean language "original from the asleep man who have missed it for its strategic confusion

c - The "own language" of the guardians is analogous to the logical forms of cultural structure, The "mother tongue" of the prisoner is analogous to the "Hyperborean language" of the asleep man.



4.)

a - The first enviroment of the "prisoner" is its "cell" of the tower which contains almost entirely with the exception of some openings (door and window) where only very weakly can extend the senses.

b - The first environment of the self is the "shadow area", which contains almost completely.

c - The "cell" of the tower is analog to the shadow area of the asleep man



5.)

a - In the "cell" there is a little window through which the prisoner gets a poor image, but "direct" from the outside world.

b - Establishing a permanent contact with the self there is "the sensory sphere" through which it obtains a poor image, but directç

c -The window is analog to the "sensory sphere"(or senses) in the asleep man



6.)

a - In the cell there is a "gated door" by which enter the guards, and with them the news censored, ie, where the prisoner gets an "indirect" image from the outside world.

b - The self can form an indirect image from the outside world through "reflection" ie, the act by which information is received "reasonable."

c - The gated door is analog to the act of reflection


7.)
a - The cell of the "prisoner" is in a "tower" and this is in a "walled garden". Around the walls there are "deep pits,and then other walls and moats; and so on to complete seven laps of wall and moat.The seven circuits up this formidable "prison" are connected together by "drawbridges, gates, railings liftgate, etc.Beyond the wall extends the "outside world", the country's Enemy.In short: is the "prison" a static structure that stands between the prisoner and the outside world

b - Between the self and the outside world gets a static complex structure called the "cultural".
The "reason" to make "reasonable" information from the outside world, relies on certain elements of the static structure or "cultural", eg "pre-eminent cultural premises,"
concepts on the perceptions of the entities or external objects.

c - The "prison" is analogous to the "cultural structure".Also: some parts of the "prison", walls, ditches, bridges, etc., Are analogous to certain parts of the "cultural structure", ie the "pre-eminent cultural assumptions."
In the allegory, both the "guards" and "prison" are intermediaries between the prisoner and the outside world But the guards are dynamic intemediaries
(analogous to the "reason" in the asleep man) while the "prison" is a static intermediary (analogous to the "cultural structure" of the sleeping man).

8.)

a - Beyond the last wall of the prison stretches the "outside world"that reality wich can never be seen by the "prisoner" because the structure of the "prison" is limiting his movement as a "guard" having permanent care to maintain this situation.

b - The Self, in the man asleep, is normally submerged in the depths of the cultural structure floating lost in its artificial and static elements and at the mercy of the ruthless tyranny exercised by reason.The cultural structure completely surrounds the self, except for some cracks, where looks weak the sensory sphere , Beyond the cultural structure, as the object of instinctive and sensory areas, it extends the "outside world"reality that can never be "seen" (in truth, "as is") by the lost self.

c - The "outside world" beyond the prison is analogous to the "outside world" beyond the "cultural structure" that holds the self in the asleep man.


9.)

a - In a nearby mountain, are the Kameraden trying to help the "prisoner" to escape the "prison".
To do this send they a message in their native language, using the acoustic meansIn that message there is a "children's song", to "wake up" the prisoner
and a "love song" with the "key of the ring" to find the secret exit and flee.

b -In a hidden "center" called Agartha, Fair Gods are trying to help people sleep to break the chains that remain chained to the material world of the Demiurge.For this charismatically send a message in "the language of birds, using the Vrunas of Navután. In that message there is a "primary memory" to awaken and guide the man, and a "Song of death" with the "key of the ring"to find the center, return to the origin, and quit as a God, the Lord of Hell material Jehova Satan.


c - can be established between a and b, many similarities. Just highlight the most important: The Kameraden are analogous to liberating gods



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Q: (L) Well, how do these beings get here crossing such vast
reaches of space?
A: As we have told you, there are seven levels of density
which involves, among other things, not only state of being
physically, spiritually and etherically, and materially, but also,
more importantly, state of awareness. You see, state of
awareness is the key element to all existence in creation. You
have undoubtedly remembered that we have told you that this
is, after all, a grand illusion, have you not? So, therefore, if it is
a grand illusion, what is more important, physical structure or
state of awareness???
Q: (L) State of awareness?
A: Exactly. Now, when we go from the measuring system,
which of course has been nicely formulated so that you can
understand it, of density levels one through seven, the key
concept, of course, is state of awareness. All the way through.
So, once you rise to a higher state of awareness, such things
as physical limitation evaporate. And, when they evaporate,
vast distances, as you perceive them, become non-existent.
So, just because you are unable to see and understand has
absolutely no bearing whatsoever on what is or is not
possible. Except within your own level of density. And this is
what almost no one on your current level of density is able to
understand. If you can understand it and convey it to them,
you will be performing the greatest service that your kind has
ever seen. Think about that for a moment. Let it seep into
your consciousness. Analyze it. Dissect it. Look at it carefully
and then put it back together again.

 

[Windmill knight]

I once started reading it (years ago) but I dropped it as it became rather obvious that it was getting racist and discriminatory. It sounded like it was suggesting that white people got the spirit, people with darker skin do not, and all Jews are evil.

I also disliked the point of view about matter vs spirit. I prefer to think of matter as the battleground of different types of spirituality.

Also, the site where the book was hosted had a series of posts by the author's mother that were really bizarre. She couldn't put a clear paragraph together and she kept talking about aliens having abducted and killed her son, and replacing him with a replica; and about how evil Jews were and so on. She sounded paranoid-schizophrenic to me, to be honest.

Having said that, some things in the book were kind of interesting, and some may even be useful if they are taken as metaphors of the real spiritual battle, and not literally.

 

[ana]

I once started reading it (years ago) but I dropped it as it became rather obvious that it was getting racist and discriminatory. It sounded like it was suggesting that white people got the spirit, people with darker skin do not, and all Jews are evil.

Seems to me the book is really giving importance to the spirit race and not the body, although also possible as the Cass says that the vehicle matches the characteristics of the spirit in some cases.


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Q: (L) What is it that causes individuals to commit crimes?
A: Well, now you see, that too, has many answers. We will choose one and then let you contemplate. One answer is, of
course, as we mentioned previously, the alteration of blood, body and brain chemistry through the use of ultra- high
frequency sound waves. Of course, as you can well imagine, one effect that this may have would be what you would
refer to as anti-social behavior. Do you not see this?
Q: (L) I do. Okay, is there anything about a person of a particular race or body type which makes them more susceptible
to this manipulation than another race or person?
A: Well now, that brings into question the physical differences between races, including the obvious body chemistry
differences, a subject that has not been adequately explored on the third density level of existence. For example, it is very
obvious the different "races" as it is called, are human beings that have different chemical make-up in their bodies. Would
you not say this?
Q: (L) I would say that might be probable.
A: Now, if one takes this one step further, perhaps if one race has a brain chemistry make-up or blood chemistry
make-up that can alter the emotions in such a way so as to commit what is called anti-social behavior, at least in social
environment to which you are accustomed, then this, perhaps, would explain why there may be a higher percentage of
crimes committed by persons of a particular race as opposed to persons of a different particular race.
Q: (L) Are there any specific chemicals that we could isolate or name that would be involved with this condition?
A: Tumoxifene.
Q: (L) And, what is that?
A: A hormone secreted by the pituitary gland. You'll find this particular hormone to be in high concentrations in persons
of what is referred to as the Negro race.



Of course none of this should be an absolute rule, As I see it for an advanced being is it  possible to use any of the terrestriall vehicles, but sure there would be some vehicles wich offers greater resistance or facilitate interaction or purpose of the being.
Thinking about battles or the superiority of the types of vehicles is insubstantial...




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Q: (L) Were the Lizards the ones who led the Jews to the "Promised Land?"
A: No. Were not led; followed their own paths in effort to escape the effects of cataclysms.
Q: (L) Why have they got this big legend about being chosen and led to the promised land?
A: More brotherhood influence and nonsense.



Jews as many others are not evil, they are just believers, but if you think about it carefully for someone who fights against the lie towards the freedom of his/her spirit, the believer becomes somehow another enemy...

I also disliked the point of view about matter vs spirit. I prefer to think of matter as the battleground of different types of spirituality.

"I Prefer to think" ..... Windmill if you are thinking you are not prefering...



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Q: (L) Can a spiritual being become entrapped in physical
matter?
A: It's possible but very unlikely.
Q: (L) Are human beings entrapped in physical matter?
A: By choice.

Also, the site where the book was hosted had a series of posts by the author's mother that were really bizarre. She couldn't put a clear paragraph together and she kept talking about aliens having abducted and killed her son, and replacing him with a replica; and about how evil Jews were and so on. She sounded paranoid-schizophrenic to me, to be honest.

I found it here, _http://gabadiario.blogspot.com/2005/03/gral-y-parsifal.html
I doubt we speak the same site..

Having said that, some things in the book were kind of interesting, and some may even be useful if they are taken as metaphors of the real spiritual battle, and not literally.

Yes that's the matter.

 

[anart]

"I Prefer to think" ..... Windmill if you are thinking you are not prefering...

Hi Pryf,

What, exactly, does the above mean, and why would you think it is the truth?

I'm also curious as to why you appear to have taken a 'tone' with windmill knight? Are you so identified with this material that any criticism of it is objectionable to you?

 

[ana]

"I Prefer to think" ..... Windmill if you are thinking you are not prefering...

Hi Pryf,

What, exactly, does the above mean, and why would you think it is the truth?

I'm also curious as to why you appear to have taken a 'tone' with windmill knight? Are you so identified with this material that any criticism of it is objectionable to you?

Anart I am receiving this material carefully, and I talk about it here precisely to know what do you think about it and to have my own mirror session.

Windmill my apologies, narcissism is a silent Dwarf
:/

 

[Windmill knight]

Seems to me the book is really giving importance to the spirit race and not the body, although also possible as the Cass says that the vehicle matches the characteristics of the spirit in some cases.

I think that 'spirit race' is already kind of problematic. It kind of suggests that we are predetermined to certain paths and not free to choose. To some extent, I agree that each one of us has natural tendencies towards one or another path. But the problem with the book is that it clearly identifies the 'good' guys with white races and the 'bad' guys with pretty much everyone else. At least that's how I read it, although I suppose it's possible (though not very probable) that I misinterpreted it.

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Q: (L) And, what is that?
A: A hormone secreted by the pituitary gland. You'll find this particular hormone to be in high concentrations in persons
of what is referred to as the Negro race. [/b]

Two things to consider here. First, the above session was a direct channelling session, which have been observed to have a higher degree of corruption than those via the ouija board. Second, the Cs have also pointed out repeatedly that it is the soul that matters; and that ALL races have great potential for both good and evil.

I think of it as motor vehicles. Some are good for the highway, others for racing, others for carrying great loads of material or people, etc. However, a vehicle depends entirely on the ability of the driver. The best vehicle will do nothing with a bad driver; an average vehicle will do wonders in the hands of an expert.

I didn't see any of these subtleties in the Bellicena book.

Of course none of this should be an absolute rule, As I see it for an advanced being is it possible to use any of the terrestriall vehicles, but sure there would be some vehicles wich offers greater resistance or facilitate interaction or purpose of the being.
Thinking about battles or the superiority of the types of vehicles is insubstantial...

Ok, we agree on that point. But I doubt that the Bellicena book agrees with us.

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Q: (L) Were the Lizards the ones who led the Jews to the "Promised Land?"
A: No. Were not led; followed their own paths in effort to escape the effects of cataclysms.
Q: (L) Why have they got this big legend about being chosen and led to the promised land?
A: More brotherhood influence and nonsense.


Jews as many others are not evil, they are just believers, but if you think about it carefully for someone who fights against the lie towards the freedom of his/her spirit, the believer becomes somehow another enemy...

This is another problem I have with the book. At moments it sounds like the concepts of 'war', 'battles' and 'enemies' are taken in a literal and not in a spiritual sense.

Come to think about it, people who want to keep us asleep are not so much our 'enemies'; they are more like a mechanical force of nature that we must learn to be aware of. That is assuming that we are also making battle with the 'enemy' within, i.e. the predator's mind constituted by all our programs and illusions, which is also quite literally a force of nature.

I also disliked the point of view about matter vs spirit. I prefer to think of matter as the battleground of different types of spirituality.

"I Prefer to think" ..... Windmill if you are thinking you are not prefering...

Usually I prefer to think what makes more sense, whether the evidence supports it or because it helps explain reality more accurately. That is why I prefer to think that the battle is more complex than spirit vs matter; because that is what observation shows to me.

It should be obvious that it was in this sense that I was using the word 'prefer'.

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Q: (L) Can a spiritual being become entrapped in physical
matter?
A: It's possible but very unlikely.
Q: (L) Are human beings entrapped in physical matter?
A: By choice.

That doesn't exclude the possibility that spiritual beings can make use of physical matter for something positive, like learning, growing or teaching. Likewise, others may use it for something negative or selfish, like self-gratification.

Also, consider that reducing the problem to spirit vs matter obscures the fact that there are at least two types of spirituality: STS and STO.

Also, the site where the book was hosted had a series of posts by the author's mother that were really bizarre. She couldn't put a clear paragraph together and she kept talking about aliens having abducted and killed her son, and replacing him with a replica; and about how evil Jews were and so on. She sounded paranoid-schizophrenic to me, to be honest.

I found it here, _http://gabadiario.blogspot.com/2005/03/gral-y-parsifal.html
I doubt we speak the same site..

Nope, that is not where it's hosted.

This is where you can read the bizarre posts by the mother: _http://www.quintadominica.com.ar/

 

[ana]

Seems to me the book is really giving importance to the spirit race and not the body, although also possible as the Cass says that the vehicle matches the characteristics of the spirit in some cases.

I think that 'spirit race' is already kind of problematic. It kind of suggests that we are predetermined to certain paths and not free to choose. To some extent, I agree that each one of us has natural tendencies towards one or another path. But the problem with the book is that it clearly identifies the 'good' guys with white races and the 'bad' guys with pretty much everyone else. At least that's how I read it, although I suppose it's possible (though not very probable) that I misinterpreted it.

Well then I think the problem on how I'm interpreting the book is that I am taking only those parts wich match with my own understanding of the matter; ie, when I think of "spirit white race I think of beings who have hard worked to free themselves and had choosen to help to free the spirit inside the "animal man" , and of black race as those on the higher level of STS who because of their path can not continue being without consuming the energy released from the spirit that inhabits the " animal man".
Also think that white race (STO service) do it, because their own existence depends on the release of his own spirit in other degrees of evolution, as we are all the same in fact.

[...]
Q: (L) And, what is that?
A: A hormone secreted by the pituitary gland. You'll find this particular hormone to be in high concentrations in persons
of what is referred to as the Negro race. [/b]

Two things to consider here. First, the above session was a direct channelling session, which have been observed to have a higher degree of corruption than those via the ouija board. Second, the Cs have also pointed out repeatedly that it is the soul that matters; and that ALL races have great potential for both good and evil.
I think of it as motor vehicles. Some are good for the highway, others for racing, others for carrying great loads of material or people, etc. However, a vehicle depends entirely on the ability of the driver. The best vehicle will do nothing with a bad driver; an average vehicle will do wonders in the hands of an expert.
I didn't see any of these subtleties in the Bellicena book.

So, some of you can chanell directly the Cass or the higher self, is this corruption going on because of the own belief systems of the chaneller? Or what kind of corruption..

I totally agree with your allegory of the motor vehicles.

This is another problem I have with the book. At moments it sounds like the concepts of 'war', 'battles' and 'enemies' are taken in a literal and not in a spiritual sense.

Come to think about it, people who want to keep us asleep are not so much our 'enemies'; they are more like a mechanical force of nature that we must learn to be aware of. That is assuming that we are also making battle with the 'enemy' within, i.e. the predator's mind constituted by all our programs and illusions, which is also quite literally a force of nature.

Understand.

I also disliked the point of view about matter vs spirit. I prefer to think of matter as the battleground of different types of spirituality

"I Prefer to think" ..... Windmill if you are thinking you are not prefering...

Usually I prefer to think what makes more sense, whether the evidence supports it or because it helps explain reality more accurately. That is why I prefer to think that the battle is more complex than spirit vs matter; because that is what observation shows to me.

It should be obvious that it was in this sense that I was using the word 'prefer'.

Sorry I reacted mechanically :(

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Q: (L) Can a spiritual being become entrapped in physical
matter?
A: It's possible but very unlikely.
Q: (L) Are human beings entrapped in physical matter?
A: By choice.

That doesn't exclude the possibility that spiritual beings can make use of physical matter for something positive, like learning, growing or teaching. Likewise, others may use it for something negative or selfish, like self-gratification.
Also, consider that reducing the problem to spirit vs matter obscures the fact that there are at least two types of spirituality: STS and STO.

Yes That's True

Also, the site where the book was hosted had a series of posts by the author's mother that were really bizarre. She couldn't put a clear paragraph together and she kept talking about aliens having abducted and killed her son, and replacing him with a replica; and about how evil Jews were and so on. She sounded paranoid-schizophrenic to me, to be honest.

I found it here, _http://gabadiario.blogspot.com/2005/03/gral-y-parsifal.html
I doubt we speak the same site..

Nope, that is not where it's hosted.
This is where you can read the bizarre posts by the mother: _http://www.quintadominica.com.ar/

Terrifying.. :P

 

[tio]

Hi Ana,I was searching for otherthings and I found your comment about the book THE MISTERY OF BELICENA VILLCA,I am part of this group in Argentina and the one who wrote this book is our friend and guide that we fallowing for many years,now we have a new guide who went to the same path like Felipe and came back and wrote four book in Spanish "YOGA HIPERBOREO" the later and others to,if you want to contact me I live in New York send me and email to give you Moore info,thanks Ana ....bye....Jorge

 

[ana]

No, thanks.

 

[Rud]

For all
Your individual interpretation concerning the Romance doesn't alter in anything the Reality. Analyze what they happens around yourselfs at all levels: today and from only some hundreds of years for not going far away. What you think? Have you a compromise?

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi Rud,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, how they found the cass material, and how much of the work here they have read. Thanks.

 

[nocternity]

hello. first post.
The Mistery of Belicena Villca was recently translated in english

 

[shijing]

hello. first post.
The Mistery of Belicena Villca was recently translated in english

Hi nocternity, and welcome to the forum. Please see Vulcan59's post to Rud directly above -- the same applies for you as well. I look forward to seeing your introduction :)

 

[Wolfherz]

Ana

I know a lot of people who read Belicena Villca, and it`s extremely important that the translator do not to make any mistake, what it´s very probable considering the huge differences between any latin language and english.

Ana, do you have the other books of "Nimrod de Rosario" ? Unhappily no one should translate it, what would to deteriorate the gnostic and runic effect of the books.

There are already several study groups around the world, contact me for for to share some informations

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