The Nepalese are currently burning the government!

[Ellipse]

After the gov fired live ammunitions at a peaceful demonstration against "Internet shutdown", the Nepalese literally burnt their government today. The army did not intervene for the moment.

AI summarise if you don't want to look at the video:

- Nepal "collapsed in less than 24 hours" with the government completely gone
- Government buildings, schools, and universities are burning
- Citizens went directly to the private homes of government officials and killed them
- The Prime Minister disappeared
- The government was described as "corrupt from top to bottom" with officials getting richer while ordinary citizens struggled to survive
- The government banned all social media platforms (except TikTok, which agreed to give the government control)
- A peaceful anti-corruption movement by young Nepalese people turned violent when police used tear gas and rubber bullets
- Police shot at demonstrators (many aged 13-20) and ambulances
- The government has been completely overthrown by the people
- Perhaps the army will likely take over the country under martial law
- Certainly a loss of important data and documents and prisoners in the wild

English translation can be turned on for the video.

 

[msasa79]

After the gov fired live ammunitions at a peaceful demonstration against "Internet shutdown", the Nepalese literally burnt their government today. The army did not intervene for the moment.

Gov shooting people during protest sounds almost exactly as Maidan happening, i.e. a signature of color revolution regime change aka coup.

In the post it's stated as a fact, the shooting, where did this info come from?

P.S. Being sandwiched between China and India that finally made progress in relations a week or two ago during SCO summit, Nepal is 'ideal' for being an 'obstacle on the road'. Not to mention that recent Myanmar events are not so far away from that region.

 

[Aeneas]

What is suspicious is the fact that there were many signs as seen on the internet which were in English. The government were open towards China. The protest looks a bit like Maidan compressed into a few days and with violent reaction from protesters, beating of government officials, burning of government buildings etc.
Looking for NED and their activity in Nepal, I found one site which is from 2007 though it is unlikely that NED ever left. The site says:

Objectives
To mobilize regional support for the restoration of multi-party democracy in Nepal. Forum-Asia will organize the second regional meeting on human rights, democracy, and peace in Nepal in New Delhi, India, to engage political and civil society groups in India and other countries in an effort to create pressure for the protection of human rights and a return to constitutional democratic politics in Nepal.
Beneficiaries
NGOs
Country
Nepal

Soros and his foundation also work in Nepal, since 2007. Here is a bit from their site from 2021:

When the Open Society Foundations began work in Nepal in 2007, the country was emerging from a decade-long Maoist insurgency. Society was deeply polarized. The monarchy had just been abolished, and the country needed to elect a constituent assembly in order to draw up a permanent constitution.

In an effort to stabilize the volatile political landscape, the Open Society Foundations founded a new locally-led initiative, the Alliance for Social Dialogue, which brought the feuding groups together to renounce violence and discuss constitutional and public policy issues. We also supported education reform, independent media and investigative journalists, human rights activists and lawyers fighting for justice for conflict victims.

Today, Nepal has a functioning constitution. In 2017, Nepal held the first local elections in twenty years, a move the Alliance for Social Dialogue had long campaigned for.

There is no doubt that these regime changers are there on the ground with the fingers on the pulse ready to stimulate the grassroots if needed by the Western hegemon. Perhaps Nepal moved to close to China and now was the time to activate a bit of regime change to throw chaos China's way.
Nepal has also signed on to the One Belt One Road project with the opportunity for major investment in Nepal. Here is a bit from that site which is from 2017:

Nepal has also signed the OBOR cooperation pact on May 12 this year to participate in the initiative of its northern neighbour. The revival of the Silk Route will enhance connectivity, boost trade and investments, mobility of the people and most importantly foster the economic opportunities primarily integrating trade and investment in Eurasia. Nepal used to be an important thoroughfare of the historic commercial silk route and its revival is expected to benefit the economy.

Experts suggest that the initiative will propel Nepal’s prospects to benefit from the economic development taking place in China and will cumulate the positive spillovers from China’s development. Most importantly, OBOR provides connectivity, which is fundamental for any economy to move forward. Connectivity in all forms - physical, digital and people to people is a must to achieve benefit from the economic giant China and economies connected to the Silk Route.

[...]


China has set up the multilateral development bank, Asian Infrastructure Development Bank (AIIB), to fund the infrastructure gap of member countries.


Nepal as founding member of the AIIB will also be able to mobilise funding from the China-sponsored multilateral bank.


As per its aspiration to graduate in the league of developing nations by 2022, Nepal has been making efforts to enhance all forms of connectivity - road, rail, electricity grid, digital connectivity - with neighbouring India and China.

"Nepal's participation in OBOR will provide an opportunity to develop cross border highways, railways, transmission lines and internet connectivity, which will bring transformative changes in Nepal's socio-economic landscape," said Surya Raj Acharya, connectivity expert, "This initiative will enhance physical connectivity as well as deepen integration among Asian countries and thereby unleash the full potential of Asia as it emerges as a global economic hub."

The following article is from 2020 and deals specifically with OBOR and Nepal:

BRI 1 & 2 and Nepal:

China being the second biggest trade partner of Nepal and has a 1414 kms. Boundary with it, sincerely wishing Nepal to be the partner of BRI. Similarly, the domestic pressure had also been built inside Nepal for signing BRI with an aim to enhance economic growth and, furthermore, to reduce the dependency with India. Government could not resist these pressures, although, India and USA, EU intended to keep Nepal aside of BRI for the time being. But Nepal’s then Finance Minister, Dr. Ram Saran Mahat went to Beijing and signed in the Understanding Paper of OBOR in December 2014.

The West and India, both were suspicious about the interior intention of China as she has got the comparative advantages over the capitalist countries in the field of trade, infrastructure, pipelines, roads, highways, seaports and manufacturing goods.

One can see why the Empire of Chaos would be interested in regime change.

 

[Ellipse]

In the post it's stated as a fact, the shooting, where did this info come from?

The author said he is in contact with Nepaleses and videos of police firing at people were exchanged between people, using a peer to peer application which run on Bluetooth. Internet is not totally shut down so I guess you can still send documents outside, you just cannot post on social media.

Don't know for the regime change. Look like the current gov was already corrupted so is there something more to gain for foreign countries? Nepal is a very poor country. I'm having trouble seeing the stakes.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Nepal is a very poor country.

Yes and in contrast, the first thing the right-wing media start publishing is the old tactic "what happened to the Russian tsars". The consequences of a communist government that got rich while the people were starving.

I have seen some Colombian media, again, commenting that this should serve as an example for messing with social networks. Which countries have social media blocking? the usual enemies, Russia, China and Venezuela mainly.

Already in the following hours we will know that there is more beyond "the people were upset because they did not have social networks".

For now I can only find that kind of news and photos of the luxurious life that their government had. It's the first thing they always post.

There is no doubt that these regime changers are there on the ground with the fingers on the pulse ready to stimulate the grassroots if needed by the Western hegemon. Perhaps Nepal moved to close to China and now was the time to activate a bit of regime change to throw chaos China's way.
Nepal has also signed on to the One Belt One Road project with the opportunity for major investment in Nepal. Here is a bit from that site which is from 2017:

Interesting, so that's a bit of what I'm thinking, since we can't weaken China and Russia directly with sanctions or break it out in war, they will attack their allied countries.

 

[Beau]

Don't know for the regime change. Look like the current gov was already corrupted so is there something more to gain for foreign countries? Nepal is a very poor country. I'm having trouble seeing the stakes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965496902050611698

 

[Beau]

Don't know for the regime change. Look like the current gov was already corrupted so is there something more to gain for foreign countries? Nepal is a very poor country. I'm having trouble seeing the stakes.

Have you looked at a map and seen where Nepal is in the world?

 

[Beau]

Brian Berletic puts it pretty clearly.

US regime-change in Nepal

This is yet another US government-funded regime change operation - right on China and India's doorsteps - carried out by organizations funded by the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED) many people mistakenly believe has been dismantled.

It is simply hidden and more dangerous than ever.

The protests are "Gen Z" upset over a social media ban.

As stated earlier - the ban was because US-based companies REFUSED to follow local laws and insisted on violating, manipulating and disrupting Nepal's information space.

 

[Aeneas]

The US also 'gave' Nepal $85 million last year for education. As we know nothing comes for free from the US so that money was likely funnelled towards finding and education student protesters and organizers as this X user suggests.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965707713339686940

 

[Nević Nenad]

Its not everything in the world "colored revolution", and its not everything immediately comprehensible to the average western conformist news consumer (actually, I really think that average Nepalese, as half of the world dont even care what is "generation Z" and similar idiocy). Nepal already is under US dominance, have no natural resources that could be easily extracted, US army can get there in no time, but that, because of geography, would mean nothing to India and China. (which BTW will never have open confrontation between them in any significant scale, only slow "rivalry").

Western conformist news consumer (which we are) are fed what we can understand, what we are programmed to understand. Thats: colored revolution, generation Z, social networks and internet and similar. Its much easier to make your mind with that, than with eventual real reason for the revolution. Also, "colored revolutions" are not that simple what we (the western conformist news consumers) are programmed to think it is. There are degrees and stages of involvement of various players. If you see that some country receives "foreign aid", consider that country already bought. Nepal receives many "foreign aid", minus the need for the colored revolution. Than there is the fact that no one can organize colored revolution if there is no real reason for the people's unhappiness.

What I see from the available news on Nepal, its not "all at once", erupted over night, it was brewing for some time. The reason for sudden eruption of anger is one of the ministers' speech on TV, where he announced that the police will shoot the protesters, the next day police really did shoot at the protesters and killed 20 of them. Nepalese reacted in very normal way, by violence towards the police and government (and very mildly at that, imagine what would happen if french police shoots and kills 20 Parisians in the protest). The next thing is that the army (BTW Nepalese army is the UN army) are standing with people and even arming the people. And its over.

I dont think that this is classical colored revolution, ie. organized by some foreign government, its more like military coup with some help from some foreign elements which are not related to any foreign government. It could be even private business interest or organisations involved, such as Blackrock or similar.

My five ducats . . .

 

[Aeneas]

It could be even private business interest or organisations involved, such as Blackrock or similar.

It is near certain that there were natural grievances in Nepal, there almost always are. Some forces are good at exploiting those frictions to their benefit rather than trying to bring unity to the people. It could be that other forces were in Nepal to manipulate things, such as Blackrock as you mention.

Then again, when you see that Victoria Nuland as well as Samantha Powers both were in Nepal in 2023, then it begs the question if that was just normal behaviour or if something more nefarious was at play. Nepal is of course a known tourist place for those interested in trekking so one can not exclude that, to have been part of their reason for going there, though I doubt it. Both those two women are more like angels of death so when they come visiting it is not a good sign.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965767412768444499

Donald Lu mentioned in the tweet to also have visited in 2023 was according to Imran Khan behind the coup in Pakistan which ousted him.

In April 2022, Pakistan's then prime minister Imran Khan claimed that prior to a no-confidence motion filed against him by opposition parties, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed Khan, was warned by Assistant Secretary of State Donald Lu that Khan's continuation in office would have repercussions for bilateral ties between the two nations.

The interest by Soros, NED and USAID in Nepal as mentioned before, along with these regime changers' visit in 2023 never boded well for the people of Nepal. The timing of the unrest just a few days after the visit to China by the Nepali head of state is interesting.

 

[Ben]

Thought this was a great summary from Brian about identifying foreign backed protest movements. Whether or not they fit the definition of 'colour revolution' is probably less important than what objective they are intended to achieve and for who's benefit.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965711259162349635

If you don't know who leads or funds a protest - you know NOTHING about it at all...


People think the most important facts about analyzing a protest are the ideologies of the protesters or the ideologies of those they are protesting against.


It is not.


Some think it is about conditions in the country and whether or not grievances are legitimate.


No, it isn't.


The US very easily and often does leverage legitimate grievances to turn a population against their own nation. And it is capable of camouflaging its activities under a variety of ideologies spanning the left-right spectrum.

A government of a targeted nation doesn't need to be good - it can be outright rotten - it doesn't matter to the US. If it is disobedient, or occupies a good spot for a geopolitical fire, it will be targeted and overthrown.


To figure out whether a protest is legitimate or not is exceptionally easy...


JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY.


Again, if you can't tell me who is leading the protests and with what money and resources, you know NOTHING about the protests at all.


I don't care if you know all the slogans or you've met the government they're protesting and assure me they're horrible people.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE PROTESTING ABOUT!

It only matters why they are really out there to do which depends on who is funding and leading them.

And no matter how sympathetic you are to any particular group of people or ideology - or how repulsed you are by any targeted government - if the US is sponsoring the protests, those people will only suffer more, and someone even worse will take the place of that targeted government.

Look for:
️Funding media organizations promoting the protests like Remotivi, Project Multatuli & Tempo in Indonesia;

️US-sponsored legal groups providing legal aid to agitators like Thai Lawyers for Human Rights here in Thailand;

️US-sponsored "human rights" orgs condemning government violence while ignoring violent, even outright armed opposition - like HRW, Amnesty, and CPJ have done all across Asia and beyond;

If you can't take time to look for these simple signs and accept the implications of what their presence amid a protest means, you probably don't care about these people or their well-being nearly as much as you say or think.

 

[Ellipse]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965496902050611698

I'm not convinced by the argument at all. Nepal having a big part of its income from tourism, all people in Kathmandu speak English, especially the young and are accustomed to communicate with tourists using self made placards to advertise services. So eventually, to have a chance to export their claims and make some buzz, even only locally, the first thing they can think is to write some slogans in English. It's not like events happened in some remote city.

Have you looked at a map and seen where Nepal is in the world?

I think you're being patronising. To let you know, I have already gone to Nepal.

Now about the location between China and India, so what? Is a regime change needed? Election can't be rigged? Straw men can't be placed? Gov can't be corrupted if they want to have troops? The state is very weak, it make no sens to me.

What I see from the available news on Nepal, its not "all at once", erupted over night, it was brewing for some time. The reason for sudden eruption of anger is one of the ministers' speech on TV, where he announced that the police will shoot the protesters, the next day police really did shoot at the protesters and killed 20 of them.

Exactly and the fact that in the following night the police directly gone at home leader protesters and apparently shoot them.

I dont think that this is classical colored revolution, ie. organized by some foreign government, its more like military coup with some help from some foreign elements which are not related to any foreign government. It could be even private business interest or organisations involved, such as Blackrock or similar.

My sentiment too. Can it be the psychopathic elements who felt they were all powerful but it backlashed? Were they pushed or acted on command? A strong possibility for sure but by who? For the moment the regime change hypothesis does not make much sens for me and private interests in play is actually a possibility.

 

[Beau]

I think you're being patronising. To let you know, I have already gone to Nepal.

I'm not being patronizing. You said you were having trouble seeing the stakes. Nepal's proximity to China and India is an answer to that. Do I need to remind you of the CIA's history of destabilizing areas near the borders of countries where it wants to create conflict? With all that we've seen in the past, there's just no way it can be dismissed no matter how poor or insignificant it seems. Nepal has long been used by the West as a staging point against China. The Dalai Lama was essentially a paid CIA stooge for years.

 

[Debra]

In a strange synchronicity, my husband and I watched a movie two nights ago, highlighting the corruption and greed going on in Napal.
Albeit it is a Hollywood production, and a microcosm of a local criminal web in Napal, it was still very much on my mind when I started reading about the unrest.
Here’s a few of the details from wiki:
“[…]Mike travels to Nepal to scatter his (brothers)ashes atop Mount Everest.
In Kodari, a local opposition figure Ganesh Rai opposes a construction of hydroelectric dam in the village, which is proposed by Rudra Yash, who works on behalf of corrupt industrial company.
Ganesh's father is killed when one of the Rudra's mercenaries pushes his bus off a cliff. He reports it to the police as an accident. Upon learning, Ganesh's son Vijay realizes that his father will be next and hides him in the isolated cabin in Annapurna Highlands.[…]

The title of the movie is Ice Road, Vengence.
Please don’t judge me,
I adore Liam Neeson, and the “Ice Road” movies appear to be the new, improved “Die Hard” style franchise(If you know me, I consider Die Hard to be a Christmas movie, and watch every December)