The physical life and the afterlife

[Majisyen]

We know from the sessions the people go to the fifth density when they die. But I have still problems with understanding that sometimes. For example, if a human brain is kept alive in a laboratory without the other organs, what would be to this humans soul?

We are not aware of us, even when we are sleeping. How can the consciousness continue without a brain in the afterlife?

Even if accept that, the soul will have a quite different personality in the afterlife. There is no time in the afterlife. Doesn't it mean the souls are in an emptiness, in an unconscious situation?

What do you think about these three questions?

 

[Buddy]

Hi Majisyen. I'm sorry I don't have any answers, but I've heard that sometimes when questions occur to us, we already have at least a vague answer for them in our mind. What do you think might be some good answers to those questions?

 

[Majisyen]

Hi Majisyen. I'm sorry I don't have any answers, but I've heard that sometimes when questions occur to us, we already have at least a vague answer for them in our mind. What do you think might be some good answers to those questions?

I think we are the results of the soul. But the connection between the body and the soul is a bit tricky to understand. If brain is alive, the soul must be in the third density.

When we are sleeping, we don't feel the time. It seems that the sleep is similar to death. We see some dreams in the sleep with the brain activities. But i am not sure about we can see these sort of things without a brain in the afterlife. Can fifth density be a sleep without dreaming?

 

[3DStudent]

I don't know for sure, but just speculating here:

We know from the sessions the people go to the fifth density when they die. But I have still problems with understanding that sometimes. For example, if a human brain is kept alive in a laboratory without the other organs, what would be to this humans soul?

Various possibilities. The soul could very well stick around with the brain. Or it could leave, seeing no use in the brain. I recall something about souls could leave the body right before a traumatic death, to avoid the traumatic exit, or "soul scar" if you will.

We are not aware of us, even when we are sleeping. How can the consciousness continue without a brain in the afterlife?

Well, there is lucid dreaming. I suspect there is more awareness in 5D than in normal sleep. I don't think consciousness needs matter (a brain) to exist. Matter is just solidified or congealed consciousness, consciousness begets matter.

Even if accept that, the soul will have a quite different personality in the afterlife. There is no time in the afterlife. Doesn't it mean the souls are in an emptiness, in an unconscious situation?

It may very well have a different, but I think much broader, personality. Although I don't think you know "everything" in 5D. But I'd think you'd have a clearer or more broad view of yourself and life lessons. I wouldn't call it emptiness or unconscious. I'd surely hope we pick our life lessons from an aware state! It's only when we get here that we generally forget our past lives and focus on the present life that we chose for ourselves.

My two cents.

 

[Mikey]

To get more ideas, Gurdjieff writes in detail about the 'functioning' of the physical and the higher being bodies in his Beelzebubs Tales to His Grandson (especially in the chapter "The Holy Planet Purgatory"). Gurdjieff says that 'three-brained beings' can have up to three 'bodies' of progressively finer 'densities' of 'substances' (i.e. the physical body, the body Kesdjan, and the higher being-body or 'soul').

Regarding your question about the brain being kept alive in a laboratory: According to him, we humans seem to have three brains (the moving center [the spine?], the emotional center [the primitive brain?], the intellectual center [the frontal cortex?]). There doesn't seem to be a simple answer because of the interconnectedness.

 

[Laura]

Majisyen, have you watched the "Knowledge and Being" videos where I talk quite a bit about the dead and afterlife and so on?

Also, have a look at this article:
http://www.sott.net/article/310302-Sensing-deceased-relatives-is-a-common-phenomenon

 

[Majisyen]

Majisyen, have you watched the "Knowledge and Being" videos where I talk quite a bit about the dead and afterlife and so on?

Also, have a look at this article:
http://www.sott.net/article/310302-Sensing-deceased-relatives-is-a-common-phenomenon

Thank you very much for the article. I had watched your videos. You drew a yin yang symbol and you talked about unconscious and conscious situations, potentials etc. But it has been a long time. Then, I am starting to watch again today. Maybe i need to watch again to understand thoroughly. Thanks again.

 

[Menna]

if a human brain is kept alive in a laboratory without the other organs, what would be to this humans soul?

A soul is developed and or grown or found within per my understanding. The brain is present before the soul some believe or before the soul is developed. Im not sure but I don't believe the brain dictates if the soul moves to another density in a way that if the brain is kept alive by electrical impulses it will then affect the soul. The soul is finer than any humanly body part.

We are not aware of us, even when we are sleeping. How can the consciousness continue without a brain in the afterlife?

The point/goal of the work is to be aware of oneself and through this something develops a "lighter" body that can last after death. I believe the universe is like a brain except it isnt and it has a consciousness of its own. Within this questions there are assumptions. Who says we need a brain to be conscious in the afterlife. Different playing field different rules I would think.

Even if accept that, the soul will have a quite different personality in the afterlife. There is no time in the afterlife. Doesn't it mean the souls are in an emptiness, in an unconscious situation?

Remember there is no time here it is an illusion and at the same time its real. I don't believe the soul has a personality a personality is artificially developed through society/personal interaction all used to be able to function within society I believe a soul is in a pure form not artificial like a fact. Can one develop an artificial personality soul? I believe that is when one crystalizes on the wrong foundation. I may be wrong but the objective is to break down or know personality to where you can control it or do away with it in order for something finer more esoteric to grow this is start of the soul or potential? I don't think anything is just emptiness here or out there theres always two sides something to work with you mentioned laura drew a ying and yang symbol that symbol in essence is duality.