The Prayer of the Apostle Paul

The Prayer of the Apostle Paul

Make sure that nobody makes prey of you by philosophy or by mere deceit,
depending on human tradition derived from elements of nature
and not according to Christ—for only in Him
the whole fullness of the Divinity lives bodily.
Only in Him is all complete,
since He is the source and the power of it all.

Grant me your mercy
My Redeemer, redeem me,
for I am yours;
I have come from you.

You are my mind:
bring me forth.
You are my treasury:
open me.
You are my fullness:
accept me.
You are <my> rest:
give me incomprehensible perfection.

I call upon you,
you who exist and preexisted,
in the name exalted above every name,
through Jesus Christ,
Lord of lords,
King of the eternal realms.
Give me your gifts, with no regret,
through the Son of Humanity,
the Spirit,
the Advocate of truth.
Give me authority, I ask of you,
give healing for my body, since I ask you through the preacher of the gospel,
and redeem my eternal enlightened soul and my spirit,
and disclose to my mind the firstborn of the fullness of grace.

Grant what eyes of angels have not seen,
what ears of rulers have not heard,
and what has not arisen in the human heart,
which became angelic,
made in the image of the animate God
when it was formed in the beginning.
I have faith and hope.
And bestow upon me
your beloved, chosen, blessed majesty,
the firstborn, the first-begotten,
beyond the three mental,
the wonderful mystery of your house.
For yours is power and glory,
and praise and greatness,
forever and ever.

Amen.
 
Roland JP said:
The Prayer of the Apostle Paul

Roland JP - what is your intent behind your post here? You offer no explanation so it leaves the forum guessing - which, of course, is not externally considerate.
 
Not to mention lack of sourcing. Are we to believe that this is actually a prayer of the apostle Paul??
 
Laura said:
Not to mention lack of sourcing. Are we to believe that this is actually a prayer of the apostle Paul??

Here is a link to a book "Literature of Gnostic Wisdom" that mentions some sourcing. Footnotes page 333. fwiw

http://books.google.by/books?id=MImaI4bS6-0C&pg=PA334&lpg=PA334&dq=%22Grant+what+eyes+of+angels+have+not+seen%22&source=bl&ots=75Q8aUuBgd&sig=ps_1UMyf6WLRF2BVxS_q6sfbFTc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=95wET7KACIfxsgbgj-3JDw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
Roland JP - what is your intent behind your post here? You offer no explanation so it leaves the forum guessing - which, of course, is not externally considerate.

I put it up there because its a prayer. I wanted to put a prayer out there. Without having an explanation or a reason to explain my self. I wanted it to be pure and allow it to be as it is without attachment. Kinda of like sending a blessing to whom ever and myself. More times than not but not always I'm living as if I'm going to die the next day or even hour or be ostracized so I work from that point mostly and act in urgency.
 
Not to mention lack of sourcing. Are we to believe that this is actually a prayer of the apostle Paul??


My apology, my intent or thought was why source it? Just let it be! Why accredited it for it to be of value! I wasn't considering others preferences.

its source is the Nag Hammadi Scriptures, The Revised And Updated Translation of scared Gnostic Texts
Complete In One Volume
Edited By Marvin Mayer
The Prayer Of The Apostle Paul, pg.15.......whoops I mean pg. 17


The first paragraph is added and sourced from Gnosis I Chp. VI, pg43

And, "Beyond the three mental", at the bottom of the prayer was also added from Gnosis I Chp. VI pg. 45
 
Roland JP said:
I put it up there because its a prayer. I wanted to put a prayer out there. Without having an explanation or a reason to explain my self. I wanted it to be pure and allow it to be as it is without attachment. Kinda of like sending a blessing to whom ever and myself. More times than not but not always I'm living as if I'm going to die the next day or even hour or be ostracized so I work from that point mostly and act in urgency.

Just a little note to ask if you notice that all you are concerned with in the above post is you. It is all about what you want. It is as if you are the only person who exists. I'd not be at all surprised to find out that when you wrote it, you thought it was the opposite, that it was 'for others'. Fascinating how it always works that way.
 
Just a little note to ask if you notice that all you are concerned with in the above post is you. It is all about what you want. It is as if you are the only person who exists. I'd not be at all surprised to find out that when you wrote it, you thought it was the opposite, that it was 'for others'. Fascinating how it always works that way.

It was for anyone and myself who found it to be helpful.
 
Roland JP said:
Just a little note to ask if you notice that all you are concerned with in the above post is you. It is all about what you want. It is as if you are the only person who exists. I'd not be at all surprised to find out that when you wrote it, you thought it was the opposite, that it was 'for others'. Fascinating how it always works that way.

It was for anyone and myself who found it to be helpful.

Hi Roland. Personally, I think Paul was onto something, but as it happens, that's beside the point. In case it's worth anything, I've done, and probably on occasion still do, the same thing being mentioned here. I suspect it's mostly just an unnoticed reversal. IOW, I will discover something within a context, understand and benefit from it, but present it to others without a context, thinking that the full meaning or value is contained within the presentation, itself. What I usually discover is that it is not and that I was merely projecting the "others" that would benefit. The replies tend to tell a more realistic story and that's the reality I must face. :)

So, not saying you did that, just hoping this explanation helps. All is just lessons, hey?
 
Hi Roland. Personally, I think Paul was onto something, but as it happens, that's beside the point. In case it's worth anything, I've done, and probably on occasion still do, the same thing being mentioned here. I suspect it's mostly just an unnoticed reversal. IOW, I will discover something within a context, understand and benefit from it, but present it to others without a context, thinking that the full meaning or value is contained within the presentation, itself. What I usually discover is that it is not and that I was merely projecting the "others" that would benefit. The replies tend to tell a more realistic story and that's the reality I must face. :)

So, not saying you did that, just hoping this explanation helps. All is just lessons, hey?


Yeah I tend to do that. I'll find something interesting or I will get excited for something I've noticed or learned and I'll put it out there as soon as possible. Because I rather share it even if at times I don't understand it completely myself or at all. Like baking something and sharing it before you taste it yourself. Which if I added to much of an ingredient I'll find out if nobody wants seconds. :barf: Should have test tasted it. :oops: So anyway I skip the context and deliver it as is without explaining it. I'm not very good at communicating "reasons" at times. Yeah!
 
Roland JP said:
Just a little note to ask if you notice that all you are concerned with in the above post is you. It is all about what you want. It is as if you are the only person who exists. I'd not be at all surprised to find out that when you wrote it, you thought it was the opposite, that it was 'for others'. Fascinating how it always works that way.

It was for anyone and myself who found it to be helpful.

Did you miss my point that completely?

Buddy said:
IOW, I will discover something within a context, understand and benefit from it, but present it to others without a context, thinking that the full meaning or value is contained within the presentation, itself. What I usually discover is that it is not and that I was merely projecting the "others" that would benefit.

Yep, it's narcissistic to expect others to read our minds, and extremely common. Unfortunately, unless a person is actually willing to look at themselves to see it happening, they have no opportunity to change.
 
Roland JP said:
Yeah I tend to do that. I'll find something interesting or I will get excited for something I've noticed or learned and I'll put it out there as soon as possible. Because I rather share it even if at times I don't understand it completely myself or at all.

So, you have something that you know you have to work on. You need to develop external consideration in your posting - that is no small thing, so it's quite worth the time and effort.
 
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