Time...Emotions...Thinking

[Menna]

I had a thought recently about how in my experiences it seems that Time or the constant now moments in ones life has an impact on ones previous thoughts/feelings about an experience or emotions in general.

For example the quote "Time heals all wounds" In a sense yes however if I look at this deeper I believe there is a esoteric working going on behind the scenes to this quote. A more exact quote for me is "Time" enables the change of thinking/feeling. The wound isn't healed as it can't be it happened but it is looked at differently

When an experience happens we feel a certain way about it in the moment and think/feel after. The emotion we felt at the time can not change because the situation will never be re created and we will never be exactly the same. To me the first emotion to the experience serves as a landmark for who we were in that "emotion in time" moment in time. Thinking/feeling may or may not change depending on the person however with "Time" passing there can be a different thinking/feeling about a situation that once made someone angry or happy. Its not so much that "Time" heals all wounds IMO "Time: can lead to different Thinking/Feeling. The wound emotion in the moment will always be there

These different perspectives that "Time" allows one to have enables changes in the persons intellectual center. IMO the process goes like this. 1) experience happens 2) Emotion evoked 3) feel/think certain way about experience based on emotion of experience 3) "Time" changes happen 4) new perspective on number 1) possibility for number 3) to change number 2) serves as benchmark for you to compare your new emotion with old emotion.

"Time" is very important new experiences are important even with minimal experiences I feel that the vibration of 'Time" has a great affect on our thinking/feeling from an esoteric standpoint and because of this we can see our growth or our different beings at play through out our life. "Time" and change are constant on 3D and they allow for the work.

"Times" vibration/energy is very different from our emotion, feeling, thinking energy. "Times" vibration and energy can not be changed to my knowledge however it can change our vibration. Very interesting and this realization of a vibration outside us that can enable a change inside us should tell us about the universe. Tell us what exactly??? Im not sure but it is interesting to ponder over.

 

[Phill4]

I think that is a key as to why our brains percieve time,


It is interesting how you bring it up, though it may happen different for different people, they can take longer on this process of "time healing" because of repeated dynamics to take different routes for "resolution.

In repeated dynamics after a experience i think the "time to heal" factor is a space to decypher the experience.

Also take into consideration the time the body takes to break down the hormones associated with emotions , and the brain configuration to fall on repeating patterns.

 

[Menna]

It is definitely an individual process. I was more focused on the process in my post not so much the variability of individuals. Thank you for the dialog.

 

[beetlemaniac]

I had a thought recently about how in my experiences it seems that Time or the constant now moments in ones life has an impact on ones previous thoughts/feelings about an experience or emotions in general.

For example the quote "Time heals all wounds" In a sense yes however if I look at this deeper I believe there is a esoteric working going on behind the scenes to this quote. A more exact quote for me is "Time" enables the change of thinking/feeling. The wound isn't healed as it can't be it happened but it is looked at differently

When an experience happens we feel a certain way about it in the moment and think/feel after. The emotion we felt at the time can not change because the situation will never be re created and we will never be exactly the same. To me the first emotion to the experience serves as a landmark for who we were in that "emotion in time" moment in time. Thinking/feeling may or may not change depending on the person however with "Time" passing there can be a different thinking/feeling about a situation that once made someone angry or happy. Its not so much that "Time" heals all wounds IMO "Time: can lead to different Thinking/Feeling. The wound emotion in the moment will always be there

These different perspectives that "Time" allows one to have enables changes in the persons intellectual center. IMO the process goes like this. 1) experience happens 2) Emotion evoked 3) feel/think certain way about experience based on emotion of experience 3) "Time" changes happen 4) new perspective on number 1) possibility for number 3) to change number 2) serves as benchmark for you to compare your new emotion with old emotion.

"Time" is very important new experiences are important even with minimal experiences I feel that the vibration of 'Time" has a great affect on our thinking/feeling from an esoteric standpoint and because of this we can see our growth or our different beings at play through out our life. "Time" and change are constant on 3D and they allow for the work.

"Times" vibration/energy is very different from our emotion, feeling, thinking energy. "Times" vibration and energy can not be changed to my knowledge however it can change our vibration. Very interesting and this realization of a vibration outside us that can enable a change inside us should tell us about the universe. Tell us what exactly??? Im not sure but it is interesting to ponder over.

The idea of time evoked in me the idea of impermanence. Life experiences come and go, leaving their marks within our being at the physical, emotional and mental level. As described by Peter A. Levine in his book "In An Unspoken Voice", some experiences, usually described as traumatic, freeze a person's experience of time, until a resolution is found which can involve a process of immersing oneself in a gradual and controlled manner into the sensations that were felt at the time of the traumatic event. This was described as a "successful escape", as the body moved out of it's frozen state, into fight-or-flight sympathetic activation and subsequent stabilization of the autonomic nervous system.

The human experience of time is very much dependent on each individual psyche and the organisation of their nervous system. The objectively measured version of time is a convention that has been agreed upon by us and is very useful for the purposes of organizing human activity and chronicling events. I am not certain if time can be described as vibration, as it seems that beyond the two definitions mentioned, I do not feel that there is another way to explain time. I might be wrong but it is very interesting to think about.

The idea that "time heals all wounds" also signifies the impermanence of our (physical) existence. Hopefully these thoughts are helpful.

 

[3DStudent]

It sounds like the process is about reframing in our minds the events of the past. Also recall that our memory isn't exact and we fabricate a lot of our memory. So it may very well be that we change our past in our mind due to emotional processing and the conditions of the present, when the past is something quite different.

 

[Phill4]

I've been thinking about this today, and the "time outside of us, is also an internal mechanism. Had we never been taught about time we'd probably not call it such, our time meausrements don't describe real time, the equations of time as a contant lacks explanation and reffer to it more as space/motion.

The thing is the whole process is dependent in one's being, since we rely on our biological selves as 3d people to exeprience exerything, time as a construct of the human brain is nothing but a neural configuration.
I don't think time is an outside force pre see, in any case really, just that our brains are designed to process information on a lonear way.


Boredoom can be experienced as a long time
Pain/stress can be experienced as a looooong time
Sadnees and low blood pressire can also be experienced as long time.
Being mentaly active or busy can be experienced as a short time

In those examples is one of my observations that our emotions are linked to our perception of time, and our memory/learning.



The process of memory , which i was discussing in another thread, is that the mind is never still, because of its plasticity, the landmark described, memories such as traumatic experienced, are never remember the same and our brains are constrantly , (all the time) reconstructing itself. With the aid of helpers such as systems of balance, bone structures, or an phycho/emotional pathways form from a traumatic experience such as the pathway configuration of an OCD. The memories dicipate over "time" because our brains are in constant activity, starts breaking up and fracments in every other action we make. That is why when one attempts to eliminate a tic or habit one has the chance to obeserve and feel things unrelated to the act of being still.
The difference between big landmarking events and small ones is that is in our memory. That's why i found it important mentioning repesting<(kept autocorrecting to represing) partterns.

 

[Solie123]

Just to add to the conversation, in reading your initial post Menna, I couldn't help but think: In any painful situation, it's the 'time' that causes anxiety. In a break up, it's the 'forever' without them, or the feeling of being forever alone that really adds pressure. Same goes for losing a loved one. You mourn never seeing them again and that thought becomes unbearable.

 

[beetlemaniac]

Just to add to the conversation, in reading your initial post Menna, I couldn't help but think: In any painful situation, it's the 'time' that causes anxiety. In a break up, it's the 'forever' without them, or the feeling of being forever alone that really adds pressure. Same goes for losing a loved one. You mourn never seeing them again and that thought becomes unbearable.

In my experience with work -- time pressure due to deadlines imposed by self or without, provides the stress that seems necessary to get the job done. However, it becomes a question of when stress becomes too much and I become overwhelmed. In the ideal case, the feeling is one of an exhilarating chase, or in situations where one has miscalculated, there is an experience not "having enough time", and subsequent overwhelm. We could contrast this with the example of "forever" where one is caught, or frozen in place in the emotional experience that one finds oneself in. The striving towards a goal in an effort to achieve a certain state, be it physical or mental would kind of be a good "use" of time.

Also, just to throw it in the bag, if we include the idea of the predator, which seems to be something built into our nervous systems (it's described in Polyvagal Theory) we can maybe get a clue about how it works to keep us subdued within emotional states.

A philosopher had the saying "this too shall pass," which again denotes impermanence.

 

[Menna]

Felipe4 -

I don't think time is an outside force pre see, in any case really, just that our brains are designed to process information on a lonear way.

In my post I put "Time" in quotations because it is just a name but it has workings in the universe in whatever way you want to think it does.

Solid -

Just to add to the conversation, in reading your initial post Menna, I couldn't help but think: In any painful situation, it's the 'time' that causes anxiety. In a break up, it's the 'forever' without them, or the feeling of being forever alone that really adds pressure. Same goes for losing a loved one. You mourn never seeing them again and that thought becomes unbearable.

In this example the experience/situation #1 brought up an emotion of pain #2. After the experience the feeling and thinking in you causes anxiety #3. This is exactly what I was talking about this happens all the time to many people however with #4 the passing of moments/time or whatever you want to call it coupled with new experiences can change your perspective/feeling #3...No?

 

[Solie123]

In this example the experience/situation #1 brought up an emotion of pain #2. After the experience the feeling and thinking in you causes anxiety #3. This is exactly what I was talking about this happens all the time to many people however with #4 the passing of moments/time or whatever you want to call it coupled with new experiences can change your perspective/feeling #3...No?

Absolutely! It absolutely changes you, whether for the better or for the worse. Some people take the pain and find external, or not so optimal and objective ways to 'deal,' in this case I would say the change is for the worse. In others, it may cause a sense of humility, and the pain becomes a true motivators to move forward and 'prosper'... OSIT


Kind of like what bm said, although, I don't think stress should be your only motivation at all times.


*Edited to add

 

[Menna]

Some people take the pain and find external, or not so optimal and objective ways to 'deal,'

This is correct this is ones reaction to the emotion that developed inside them do to the experience they had. My point is that with "Time" changes/other experiences ones thinking/feeling/view of the previous experience can change. Now there is a possibility to see the emotion in first experience as a gauge for your development

 

[Keit]

This is correct this is ones reaction to the emotion that developed inside them do to the experience they had. My point is that with "Time" changes/other experiences ones thinking/feeling/view of the previous experience can change. Now there is a possibility to see the emotion in first experience as a gauge for your development

Just to add to the conversation, consider the idea that modified view of our part experiences, including our emotional interpretation or attitude toward whatever happened, in effect also modifies the past, especially if our new realizations allowed us to make a different choice.

It's is like a domino effect, but in this case what we do now allows us to change the future by changing/healing the past that in its turn contributes to our present state, and so own.

Yeah, it can be confusing, but rewatching Laura's Knowledge and Being lectures on the topic of "Information Theory and Reality Creation" may clarify that.

Basically, not in all the cases "time heals the wounds". It depends on the choices, and if those choices were conductive and constructive enough, and if this energy was used for self-development or self-degradation.

 

[Faith]

It's funny to think about "time" when in reality it doesn't exist according to the Cs and is more like an optical illusion, a misconception of some sort. I was thinking about the value of the saying, considering that time is an illusion. Instead of "time heals all wounds" maybe you could say "Life processes heal all wounds". I think identification has a lot to do with it. In the moment of feeling the direct impact of the dramatic experience or impression, I am completely identified with it, painfully overwhelmed by it and everything else in my life depends on it. It's a heavy chunk that needs to be digested step by step.

Then I move on with my life while thinking about it, working on it. New experiences in different areas of life occur that attract my attention so that my focus shifts away from the previous one. I'm not identified with the original experience anymore or to a lesser degree and with every new change that effects me, new impressions, observations and realizations the original experience that turned to memory moves farer away and gets integrated in my personal narrative. It plays a role in my learning curve. The pain that was originally felt in a sharp and isolated way gets mixed up with new emotions that change the texture of my inner life. It's like spices in a soup. As a memory it still might provoke the same pain in my changed self but to a lesser degree or maybe I've changed in a way that it doesn't effect me anymore. Even a bad experience may be valued as something positive in terms of a wake up call, stepping stone or turning point depending on the processes. If the experience is too traumatic it might be isolated and hidden from the conscious processes until it gets integrated when the necessary changes have occurred. What I call past could be a causal chain in my chemical/ energetic profile that changes constantly, some patterns more than others. It gets more interesting considering the possibility that memory is not stored in the brain but in a morphic resonance field that interacts with the human machine.

Anyway instead of saying "After a long period of time" maybe you could say "After a huge amount of internal and external processes" that constantly shapes your perception. How would life look like if you could see all steps in the process at once? To revisit an earlier state would be the same as looking at the bottom of an object with the future on top. I wonder how solid that 4d-object would appear? What a crazy thought. :P

EDIT I added a sentence.

 

[Faith]

Apparently it's possible to relive an "earlier" state of your being via hypnosis, let's say a memory as a six year old. For the subject the "past" becomes present reality again. I wonder how identical this reliving is with the actual event. Is it the same or just an approximation? Do you access a certain part of the morphic field where every information is stored? What would you think about the concept of time, if you could relive every past moment on purpose, whenever you feel like it, let alone past lives? If the access to these information depend on your digestive capabilities, how does the perception of time and reality itself changes?

 

[Menna]

It's is like a domino effect, but in this case what we do now allows us to change the future by changing/healing the past that in its turn contributes to our present state, and so own.

Yeah, it can be confusing, but rewatching Laura's Knowledge and Being lectures on the topic of "Information Theory and Reality Creation" may clarify that.

Basically, not in all the cases "time heals the wounds". It depends on the choices, and if those choices were conductive and constructive enough, and if this energy was used for self-development or self-degradation.

Exactly. Experiences now can change perspectives that change view of past and change current view. After thinking about said quote maybe it should be "Time has the potential to heal all wounds" as always its depended on the individual