Tobacco-free Campus

[JonnyRadar]

Our nearby university, Michigan Tech, just passed a ban on smoking anywhere within campus bounds (with a few exceptions - golf course, ski hill, outdoor trails).

_http://www.mtu.edu/tobaccofree/

[quote author=_http://www.mtu.edu/tobaccofree/]As of March 2012, 270 universities have gone tobacco free, and as of January 2012, 648 have gone smoke free. The Tobacco-free Taskforce has been charged with the “when and how,” of implementation and investigated several tobacco-free and smoke-free implementation plans from numerous colleges and universities.[/quote]

Thought it was noteworthy to post here... Until now I was unaware that so many other universities had passed such bans, not just within x feet of building entrances, but also anywhere outdoors on campus.

 

[Al Today]

Nothing shocking there anymore, Jonathan. Employers, universities, colleges, hospitals, shopping malls, groupss, individuals, television, radios... seems that everywhere are anti-tobacco activists on the soap box preaching how tobacco kills, kills, kills...

Try searching on the following for some examples:

how many smoke and tobacco free zones are there?

 

[mkrnhr]

Fascism is being established step by step. It's funny that they implement it so easily in a university campus where people are trained to be authoritarian followers.

 

[irjO]

In Venezuela almost everywhere has that ban... it is really difficult to smoke in any place... everywhere you go, you will see a "Tobacco-free" poster..

 

[Al Today]

Fascism is being established step by step.[...]

I may be wrong, but I seem to notice they start with children. Impressionable, easily swayed, and programmable. Takes time to socially engineer a population to a desired state. They are in no rush. With being here around a half century or so, methinks I've seen that in practice.

 

[mkrnhr]

Yes, they are methodical in their approach. I remember the anti-tobacco hysteria even during the 80's (in a 3rd world country). At that time they already started with the "meat is bad" meme, in a wheat-consuming society. I was talking to my mother last week and what is happening on a grand scale is that people are having heart attacks in their 20's! In order to destroy a population, make them eat carbs and prevent them from smoking tobacco.
It seems however that with these new laws, the control is going through another level. Those who didn't comply through propaganda, will comply by the force of law, and also through the pressure of the brainwashed authoritarians. Everytime I'm smoking at work, someone comes and tells me "smoking is bad". I don't even try to explain, I just respond by "no, it isn't", and "it's my life, not the government's".
With the aggravation of the economic crisis, and if some diseases appear, it is very likely that the PTB will size the opportunity to introduce more control over health issues. It will be a struggle for survival of some sort.

 

[Carl]

Yes, they are methodical in their approach. I remember the anti-tobacco hysteria even during the 80's (in a 3rd world country). At that time they already started with the "meat is bad" meme, in a wheat-consuming society. I was talking to my mother last week and what is happening on a grand scale is that people are having heart attacks in their 20's! In order to destroy a population, make them eat carbs and prevent them from smoking tobacco.
It seems however that with these new laws, the control is going through another level. Those who didn't comply through propaganda, will comply by the force of law, and also through the pressure of the brainwashed authoritarians. Everytime I'm smoking at work, someone comes and tells me "smoking is bad". I don't even try to explain, I just respond by "no, it isn't", and "it's my life, not the government's".
With the aggravation of the economic crisis, and if some diseases appear, it is very likely that the PTB will size the opportunity to introduce more control over health issues. It will be a struggle for survival of some sort.

I do wonder how long they'll be able to keep up the pretense if everyone but the fat-eating smokers start dropping like flies. Then again, truth and reality don't hold much weight in this world.

Luckily there are still a whole lot of smokers in my city, workplace and university, and I for one will be proudly smoking on my campus until they send the thugs and forcibly remove it from my mouth. I must admit I feel a sense of comradery whenever I see another smoker these days, keep up the good fight and don't let the authoritarians shame you!

 

[Nook]

Yes, it's only gonna get worse. I'm lucky that I work for Chinese people, everyone smokes - even if only commercial brand cigarettes - they don't mind me smoking.

In NYC, the mayor already his little plan that will eventually - probably - lead to smoking being banned in every apartment!

_http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/bloomberg-wants-smoking-regs-residential-buildings-202422126.html

I can't find the more recent article that says that there will be lobbyists from the mayor's office, contacting every landlord to put a no-smoking paragraph in every new or renewed lease from now on.

I must admit I feel a sense of comradery whenever I see another smoker these days, keep up the good fight and don't let the authoritarians shame you!

Actually, me too. Many times when I walk by another smoker I give them a nod

 

[bngenoh]

I do wonder how long they'll be able to keep up the pretense if everyone but the fat-eating smokers start dropping like flies. Then again, truth and reality don't hold much weight in this world.

Yeah, I can already see the "scientists" saying, "coincidence," "there is no causal link between smoking blah, blah blah"

Luckily there are still a whole lot of smokers in my city, workplace and university, and I for one will be proudly smoking on my campus until they send the thugs and forcibly remove it from my mouth. I must admit I feel a sense of comradery whenever I see another smoker these days, keep up the good fight and don't let the authoritarians shame you!

Yeah, when I was in college, there was a smoking ban in effect throughout the whole campus, but it didn't matter, people used to walk to the front of the campus and smoke there, laugh and talk, but there were others who just didn't give a damn and would smoke on their way to class, it was quite the middle finger.

But there is also the issue of cigarette buts all over the place, that was the reason given on the campus I was going to.

 

[Nook]

But there is also the issue of cigarette buts all over the place, that was the reason given on the campus I was going to.

This is almost always in play! And it's annoyingly idiotic.
When the NYC mayor banned smoking in parks and beaches and even in pedestrian plazas, they kept mentioning the cigarette butt issue.
Every toddler knows that this problem can only be solved by giving us smokers more public and widely available ashtrays!

 

[Mr. Premise]

My alma mater did the same thing. Back when I went there students and professors could smoke in class. There were ashtrays on the desks. Now you can't even outside. Last time I visited I broke that rule!

 

[LQB]

My alma mater did the same thing. Back when I went there students and professors could smoke in class. There were ashtrays on the desks. Now you can't even outside. Last time I visited I broke that rule!

Yeah, I remember our EE Dept head showing up to teach a class with a huge stogie burning that lasted the entire class.

 

[SeekinTruth]

When I was in high school (in the U.S.), we could smoke between classes right outside any of the doors of the building. In college, we could smoke in the hallways right outside of the classrooms (I always did between classes). Oh, and I also had a teacher who used to smoke a slender cigar in class in college.

I'm glad I moved to Armenia 6 1/2 years ago. Here everyone smokes everywhere (even government / bureaucratic buildings) and the VAST majority of the population smokes. Let's see how long this lasts -- an "island sanctuary" among an ocean of fascism....

 

[freesurfer]

I remember 30 years ago, in an hospital in Sicily, where my brother was internee some days for an operation, the doctor entered the room with a li cigarette!
Today a live in Ecuador, and same at any under NWO country, the law become very strong.. we can't smoke ""under roof"", so if you drink your glass in the central small park of the town, in the terrace, where passes 10 vehicles to the minute to 1,5 m. of you.. you can smoke because you are "under roof"...
and more ridiculous ..
One friends is coming back from Quito with a comic true story..
he see one guys, in a big green square in the town, where is a small kiosk where they sale drinks, and when he lit his cigarette, the "barman" says him to go out of the roof, so he take his beer and he will drink it further, but after a few seconds a police officer came and put to him a fine for drinking alcohol in a public place

Yes Fascism!