Tornadoes in my room

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Is this machine you are using kind of a room light? Because I try to figure out what it consists of and what it does. And could there have been small air drafts in the room? Or it was a small electrical phenomenon.
 
In English I've found the translation : atomizer or mister, or essential oil diffuser.

It consists of a ceramic disc which vibrates at an ultrasonic speed, so creates micro droplets which form a misty cloud.

See here :
_http://www.cdiscount.com/electromenager/r-brumisateur+huiles+essentielles.html#_his_
_https://www.amazon.fr/Disque-c%C3%A9ramique-rechange-brumisateur-MystMaker/dp/B001TB1V5W/ref=sr_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1481269938&sr=1-4&keywords=disque+ceramique+brumisateur

This is the first time I see this effect with this machine, my room was door and window closed, the water was distilled and C's Crystal purified.
The effect has not always happened, it seems to appear when I am the most "Present" in the moment. Yesterday I fixed the machine which had no tornadoes and a little one appeared.
It also maybe linked to Reiki, it's been a month since I have been atuned, and I continue to atune.

So it points toward electrical phenomenon. I tried to reply the same effect with my fingers movement, but it didn't do well..
 
The crystals do not purify, they charge, and likely the stirring and vaporizing of that machine erases the charge.

As a bowl, the machine keeps the air in it very still and at a very uniform temperature, not unlike the conditions that cause tornadoes outside. Is the temperature in the bowl warmer or colder than the temperature of the room air?
 
monotonic said:
The crystals do not purify, they charge, and likely the stirring and vaporizing of that machine erases the charge.

As a bowl, the machine keeps the air in it very still and at a very uniform temperature, not unlike the conditions that cause tornadoes outside. Is the temperature in the bowl warmer or colder than the temperature of the room air?
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You seem to know a lot about Crystal charging. Indeed "charging" seem to be a more precise concept, but if they are charged by light or magnetic field, does a mechanical vibration erases completely this kind of charge ?

Temperature seems to be the same, although I have not verified that. As the myst is not made by boiling, it have the temperature of the water, and is lowered because of the micro size of the droplets attaining the air. I have never seen this effect before and I was using the same conditions apart from the purificated and "charged" water.
 
What I know about it I learned by reading the original C session thread where the project began. It's just basic information, but scattered throughout several posts.

I don't know how different kinds of motion affect the charge, all I read is that mixing in general erases it. I don't know what the 50KHz piezo element does but I imagine it is not unlike several young girls screaming at the water at once. I can't say whether it is negative or not, but I do think there is no remaining charge in the fog. I say enjoy your fog bowl, it's fascinating and relaxing to watch.

As for temperature I am pretty sure the water will be warmer because the light and the piezo element both give off heat. I wonder if the center of each tornado is an invisible current of cool air falling to the bottom of the bowl?

It is known that if you create certain conditions, stuff like this does happen. What can't be predicted is when or where the vortexes occur, which is probably a somewhat chaotic pattern. Chaotic systems are known for giving a radically different result with only a slight change of input.

An electrical interaction is possible I suppose, in which case I would try to correlate the effect with weather or sun spots. Also try grounding the water and see if anything changes.
 
monotonic said:
What I know about it I learned by reading the original C session thread where the project began. It's just basic information, but scattered throughout several posts.

I don't know how different kinds of motion affect the charge, all I read is that mixing in general erases it. I don't know what the 50KHz piezo element does but I imagine it is not unlike several young girls screaming at the water at once. I can't say whether it is negative or not, but I do think there is no remaining charge in the fog. I say enjoy your fog bowl, it's fascinating and relaxing to watch.
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Yeah that is what I do, maybe watching have made the conditions of appearing of these tornadoes, if you are near the causal state or whatever. It's the seeing which import, thanks :).

monotonic said:
As for temperature I am pretty sure the water will be warmer because the light and the piezo element both give off heat. I wonder if the center of each tornado is an invisible current of cool air falling to the bottom of the bowl?
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You maybe right for the temperature of the water in the bowl, the room was warm too, being in winter with heaters on..

monotonic said:
It is known that if you create certain conditions, stuff like this does happen. What can't be predicted is when or where the vortexes occur, which is probably a somewhat chaotic pattern. Chaotic systems are known for giving a radically different result with only a slight change of input.

An electrical interaction is possible I suppose, in which case I would try to correlate the effect with weather or sun spots. Also try grounding the water and see if anything changes.
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I will try grounding.
 
I tested direct Reiki on the mist, and it gives this :

_https://youtu.be/0Cc6X00PEtI

(If someone passing by could give me the keys to put a playable youtube video on the forum, it would be greatly appreciated).
 
If you are looking for conclusive evidence or validation I don't think you will find any. There will always be another explanation. But what would that information give you anyway? It would not make you more spiritual or help you learn lessons. It is interesting, but in context is not very useful, unless it helps you relax.
 
There is no point in posting this videos, just seeing, I believed that was clear...

For me "evidence, proofs, explanation"... whatever are just concepts/words to talk. There is no weigth in them, or it's the goal :P (to alleviate the weigth).

Maybe your attempt to prevent me for learning my lessons by this mean is something that prevent you to learn some of your lessons ?
 
monotonic said:
If you are looking for conclusive evidence or validation I don't think you will find any. There will always be another explanation. But what would that information give you anyway? It would not make you more spiritual or help you learn lessons. It is interesting, but in context is not very useful, unless it helps you relax.
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I think so too. Unless we have the right measurement tools and repeatable conditions it is hard to tell what originally caused. But I think there are more important things to do.


Nico said:
I tested direct Reiki on the mist, and it gives this :

_https://youtu.be/0Cc6X00PEtI

(If someone passing by could give me the keys to put a playable youtube video on the forum, it would be greatly appreciated).
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You need the embed code of the youtube video which you can get when clicking "share" -> then embed -> copy the code -> then you need to tell the forum that you like to embed a video (play button beneath the strike through button) -> you should be ready to go. In the following you can see the entire code as it should look like:

Code: 
[embed]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0Cc6X00PEtI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/embed]
 
Gawan said:
monotonic said:
If you are looking for conclusive evidence or validation I don't think you will find any. There will always be another explanation. But what would that information give you anyway? It would not make you more spiritual or help you learn lessons. It is interesting, but in context is not very useful, unless it helps you relax.
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I think so too. Unless we have the right measurement tools and repeatable conditions it is hard to tell what originally caused. But I think there are more important things to do.
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The right measurement tools is your mind or the awareness/seeing, just look. Are we not trying to balance self-importance here ? So there are no things more important than others ? I agree nonetheless that there are many other things to see besides these videos, but maybe something great could come with something very small and uninteresting at first...

Gawan said:
Nico said:
I tested direct Reiki on the mist, and it gives this :

_https://youtu.be/0Cc6X00PEtI

(If someone passing by could give me the keys to put a playable youtube video on the forum, it would be greatly appreciated).
Click to expand...

You need the embed code of the youtube video which you can get when clicking "share" -> then embed -> copy the code -> then you need to tell the forum that you like to embed a video (play button beneath the strike through button) -> you should be ready to go. In the following you can see the entire code as it should look like:

Code: 
[embed]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0Cc6X00PEtI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/embed]
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Thank you Gawan !
 
I think is good to consider what others say in general, if this is something you wish to pursue, ill share what came up to me when i read what monotonic mentioned in terms of diseminating the charge.

I don't have the exact quotes at hand unfortunately, but can be found on ISOTM,
When G. Talked about an "atom of water", being different that the molecule H2O of chemestry terminology, the atom of water reffers to a certain amount of water, maybe a tiny drop, that contains all the physical, chemical and psychic properties of water. (Being gravity and electromagnetism of this planet relative i imagine the properties and quatities of the "atom of water" change when in a different place). Meaning the vibrations of the planet are to be taken into consideration.

When you have less than the amount of this drop of water that contains all the properties of water it is no longer an "atom of water" because no longer has all the properties and qualities of water.


When it is less than that, or if it is brought to a boiling point, it can be that the charge is diseminated into the environment, split, brought appart, divided, i think.

I don't have at hand the lecture but it may interest you with regards to water, and all the other things the C's mentioned about water having ethereal properties.

Keep in mind though, that when water is mixed with the environment, (boiling, vaport , mist etc) there are ither elements/molecules in the air with their own electric filed, their own magnetism, their own valence electron exchange, and their own information in them, mixing/switching/combining with other elements in the environment.

I too don't have much in this regard, hope it helps.
 
Frankly I was not aiming to pursue anything about it. And I consider what Gurdjieff said about atom as just a bait story for the reader or listener to go beyond the material/habitual seeing. And that's I was doing before recording these vids.

And you remind me this Felipe, the mind when it goes beyond its limitation becomes what it sees and mix itself like this tornadoes of mist.

Felipe4 said:
I don't have at hand the lecture but it may interest you with regards to water, and all the other things the C's mentioned about water having ethereal properties.

Keep in mind though, that when water is mixed with the environment, (boiling, vaport , mist etc) there are ither elements/molecules in the air with their own electric filed, their own magnetism, their own valence electron exchange, and their own information in them, mixing/switching/combining with other elements in the environment.
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Consider yourself the ether flowing through the water and you will fly like an eagle ^^.

I'm done with the vids, but I keep it open, maybe it can become a "Reiki measurement tool".
 
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