Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

Trump didn't go to Israel on his trip to the ME which shouldn't be shrugged off. Kind of a big deal. Both Hegseth and Vance canceled their planned Israel visits over Bibi's new planned attacks in Gaza. Now even the Murdoch-owned NY Post is writing articles showing dead Palestinians and destruction caused by Israeli bombing. The NY Post never does that, they just grovel to Israel typically. It kinda feels like there is some coordination going on with all this.
The New York Times has also come out with negative comments on Israel (Netanyahu) which is even more surprising then the NY Post. What the heck is going on? The NYT is very liberal and has been anti Trump the whole time (fake news).

The New York Times on the Netanyahu Government: This Israeli Government Is Not Our Ally​

The Israeli government is behaving in a way that threatens core U.S. interests in the region. Netanyahu is not our friend. This ultra-nationalist, messianic Israeli government is not an ally of America. Because it is the first government in stories An Israel whose priority is not peace with its large number of Arab neighbors. Its priority is annexing the West Bank, driving the Palestinians out of Gaza, and rebuilding Israeli settlements there.

I don't know much about the NYT and wondered who the owners are. A basic history can be read in the link. What is interesting to me is what is said about its large Jewish readership whom the article may be addressing. As has been mentioned earlier there is a large portion of Israeli's who are adamantly against what Net is doing and this must carry over with Jews in the US as well. Maybe some interesting developments upcoming. Two faction of Jews perhaps?

Nevertheless, given its owners’ family history, its disproportionately large Jewish readership and its frequent coverage of Jewish preoccupations, The Times is often regarded as a “Jewish newspaper” — often disparagingly so by anti-Semites.

That perception is “largely because of the family and because of the family’s Jewish name and Jewish roots,” Goldman said, “so whether they’re Jewish or not today, there’s a feeling that this is still a newspaper with a heavy Jewish influence.”

What is the Jewish history of the Sulzberger Ochs family, whose members for generations have served as publishers of The New York Times?

 
There isn't a time limitation on acts of treason.

Correct although when I referenced the 5 year statute of limitations, murder was the only offense that came to mind that had no limit.

Unfortunately, I don't recall now exactly the context of my learning there was a 5 year limitation other than the names of Lisa Page and Peter Strzok were mentioned and how they were going to benefit from that 5 year limitation. I don't know if that's actually true, but at the time I heard it, I thought you gotta be kidding - no consequences! Too disgusting and just like Hillary is still free and clear! I'm still mystified how Michael Flynn was successfully taken out right off the bat of the incoming first Trump administration. Now Crossfire Hurricane is being investigated and that operation absolutely should qualify as treasonous as should all the shenanigans of the Biden Administration to my mind! But, what seems obvious to many may not play out that way by the time all the lawyers and judges engage in their time-consuming legal proceedings. After all, we're still waiting for resolution of JFK's assassination, any real legal exposure of the truth of 911, all our phony wars, and the whole Epstein escapade - murder and treasonous crimes all.

Here's some facts regarding Federal Criminal Statute of Limitations:
For most federal offenses, the statute of limitations is five years from the date the crime occurred. (18 U.S.C. § 3282).

Certain serious federal crimes have no time limit, meaning they can be prosecuted at any time, regardless of how much time has passed. These include:
  • Capital offenses (crimes where the death penalty may apply) – 18 U.S.C. § 3281
  • Terrorism offenses resulting in serious bodily harm or posing a risk of death – 18 U.S.C. § 3286
  • Crimes involving kidnapping, sexual abuse, or sexual exploitation of a minor18 U.S.C. § 3299
A capital offense is a crime that is considered the most serious in the eyes of the law, typically resulting in the death penalty. These crimes are often heinous acts that involve the loss of human life or severe harm to individuals. In some jurisdictions, capital offenses may also include crimes such as treason or large-scale drug trafficking.

While many crimes follow the general five-year rule, some offenses have longer statutes of limitations:
[See list of 13 offenses at link]

In most cases, the statute of limitations starts running once all elements of the crime have been completed. However, some crimes, such as conspiracy, have a delayed starting point. The countdown begins after the last overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy (Fiswick v. United States, 329 U.S. 211, 216 (1946)).

As we have painfully observed, the wheels of justice turn excruciatingly slow and when it comes to Deep State crimes, hardly at all. Geeze, we'll all probably be dead and gone before any of these crimes against Trump reach any conclusion - unless there's some kind of earth-shaking breakthrough. We can only hope particularly considering hints from the Cs.

Here's the story on Page, Strzok, and Flynn:
 
It looks like a bogus picture was given to Trump and whoever did that needs questioning. I've seen indications of this in other instances. This Hopewell guy claims that white genocide in South Africa is imaginary .......! The proof was in the video not the photo. I think what Trump did here was awesome putting the president on the spot as he did.

The other clip of Trump and BB has no significance to me other then Trump playing the game and more of TDS in action.

What is to be made of this attempted debunk of the entire Trump presentation and video?

 
Well that should cover everyone!

I think this one actually covers everyone:
However, some crimes, such as conspiracy, have a delayed starting point. The countdown begins after the last overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy (Fiswick v. United States, 329 U.S. 211, 216 (1946)).

And have the last overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy even reached an end even to this day?!
 
What is to be made of this attempted debunk of the entire Trump presentation and video?
That was interesting....hmmm. It appears a lot of videos where spliced together from different time periods and the one picture from the Congo. Not much in the way of sound, documentary integrity with Trumps presentation. Unfortunately, this will likely be used to negate the white genocide happening in S Africa by those who claim it doesn't exist. But, to me it still made the point to the SA president and this will likely be used with negotiations between the countries. Over all I think its a good start and bringing attention to this is crucial.

There's so much happening all over Africa with so much death. Terrorist mercenaries slaughtering villagers in an attempted land grab for the minerals in the ground for one. Someone here mentioned the bombing of Somalia by the US. There are many articles on Yandex about this here is one. The attacks from this terrorist group have been happening for around 20 years and Trump has agreed to help. How do you bring peace in these situations? Send in social workers?

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US conducts airstrike against al-Shabab terrorists at request of Somali government​

US conducts airstrike against al-Shabab terrorists at request of Somali government

US Africa Command (AFRICOM), at the request of the federal government of Somalia, carried out an airstrike against al-Shabab militants on 15 March.

The airstrike took place approximately 150 kilometres northeast of Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia. According to AFRICOM’s initial assessment, the targeted militants were eliminated, and no civilians were harmed.
“The al-Shabab organisation has demonstrated its willingness and ability to attack US forces and their partners. The malicious actions of this jihadist group threaten US security interests. AFRICOM, alongside the federal government of Somalia and Somali armed forces, continues to take action to degrade al-Shabab’s ability to plan and conduct attacks that threaten the US, our forces, and civilians abroad,” the statement said.


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That was interesting....hmmm. It appears a lot of videos where spliced together from different time periods and the one picture from the Congo. Not much in the way of sound, documentary integrity with Trumps presentation. Unfortunately, this will likely be used to negate the white genocide happening in S Africa by those who claim it doesn't exist. But, to me it still made the point to the SA president and this will likely be used with negotiations between the countries. Over all I think its a good start and bringing attention to this is crucial.
Who stablished to be a white genocide?, SA has a very particular and complex history with, since, after the Apartheid (article from 2017 but it hasn't changed much given the latest reports, as it says in the comment: "It will take a while before South Africa can live at peace with itself.") from an article of Getaway Pundit--Genocide Against White South Africans, Facts and Number, mentions that: " Since 1994, there have been approximately 3,398 farm murders, many involving white farmers". Number does not surprises me much because, as the same article indicates "As of recent reports, white South Africans, who make up about 8% of the population, own approximately 72% of privately held farmland."

Trump has been against to such reforms since his first term.

I think this term of white genocide is using against the land reform (redistribution, restitution and tenure reform) that Ramaphosa promised since his first term in office (2018). He was re-elected in June 2024. Trump canceled South Africa aid in February this year, just precisely due the land reform that Ramphosa is implementing.

Taking into account that it was South Africa who sued Israel for Genocide, I wonder if there might have been a suggestion from their advisors to give it more importance and to make it stick in people's minds, Trump did not used that term back in 2018, when he complained about it.
 
Who stablished to be a white genocide?, SA has a very particular and complex history with, since, after the Apartheid (article from 2017 but it hasn't changed much given the latest reports, as it says in the comment: "It will take a while before South Africa can live at peace with itself.") from an article of Getaway Pundit--Genocide Against White South Africans, Facts and Number, mentions that: " Since 1994, there have been approximately 3,398 farm murders, many involving white farmers". Number does not surprises me much because, as the same article indicates "As of recent reports, white South Africans, who make up about 8% of the population, own approximately 72% of privately held farmland."

Trump has been against to such reforms since his first term.

I think this term of white genocide is using against the land reform (redistribution, restitution and tenure reform) that Ramaphosa promised since his first term in office (2018). He was re-elected in June 2024. Trump canceled South Africa aid in February this year, just precisely due the land reform that Ramphosa is implementing.

Taking into account that it was South Africa who sued Israel for Genocide, I wonder if there might have been a suggestion from their advisors to give it more importance and to make it stick in people's minds, Trump did not used that term back in 2018, when he complained about it.

There's a big uproar over the claimed improper use of the words "white genocide" by Trump. The propaganda media and the usual leftist instigators (mainly black) are hunting down statistics and fact checking furiously to prove such a thing is not happening. This is kind of weird to me. The terrorizing and killing of farmers has been happening for many years and there's plenty of evidence, this isn't anything new. The new thing is Trump speaking of it.

I listened to this interview recently which gives a fairly detailed account of what's happened in SA concerning the changes in government over the years and the situation with the farmers and their 400 yr. history. She speaks of The Open Society, Soros, having a long time office in South Africa and how these policies have promoted racism being the favored method of conquest as we know. This influence has grown after the governance of Mandela. A side affect of getting rid of most of the people who grow the food for the nation is eventually starvation, another favored outcome of the controller's we also know. Hatred of Israel and aligning with Iran for economics is mentioned.

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From Revolver
But as South Africa’s CRT-driven economic policies break down, the country is likely to only get more radical. Much of South Africa has fully embraced the ideology of American critical race theory darling Ibram X. Kendi, which holds that if outcomes differ between two racial groups, the only possible cause is racism, and the only possible remedy is direct intervention to correct the “injustice.” The disastrous example of Zimbabwe barely matters.
 
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I was wondering about Trump's South Africa genocide claim, too. Forgive the pun, but is it such a black-and-white issue as Trump claims?

I read a bunch articles on S.A., on SOTT and elsewhere, and I have no idea what the situation is. Some info states that it's not a matter of race. S.A. has a very high murder rate, and apparently the number of murder victims is up to 80% blacks - mainly because murder is so common there, and the majority of the population is black, so it would make sense that black victims number higher than whites based on population size.

That said, some pathologicals, or spellbound character-disturbed black youth who experience an unfair system of economic apartheid (instituted after race-based apartheid fell) could easily be swayed into racist murders against whites. So it's complex.

According to the Geneva Convention definition of genocide, even just removing white farmers from their land might be enough to qualify as genocide (article C, 'Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part'). Whether the murder of white farmers, in the context of a lot of murders across both black and white populations, counts as genocide, I'm not so sure.

There IS a worldwide globalist agenda that's intended to target Kantekkian descendants due to their super-duper power centres or whatever. So the globalists spread hatred of whites, or indoctrinate whites to hate themselves. There's great replacement theories and the Kalergi plan, etc.

In South Africa specifically, there is the recent land expropriation law, the DEI policies, and also murders of white farmers. So it seems to be that there is a case for white genocide. Looks pretty straight forward and right out of the globalist playbook. And of course it's all wrapped up in a nice, progressive narrative of trying to redress the history of the racist system of apartheid - psychopaths stirring up the masses to correct a perceived wrong, and then use that energy of the mob to justify acts of increasing violence. Looks like Marxism with South African characteristics. Anyways, the PTB has created a big mess in S.A.

But was Trump right to address this situation to Ramaphosa in the way he did?

There's a diversity of political parties in South Africa, and instigators like Malema giving the 'new racist American right' plenty to froth about. But the American public may have trouble seeing that not every black S.A. politician agrees with Malema's mindset, and would not stoop to singing 'kill the Boer'- just like every white politician in America didn't agree with Biden's mindset. Some articles suggest that EFF's radical turn will collapse the party because people are turned off by the violent rhetoric.


It's has also been suggested that Malema and the EFF is an MI-6 project. This could just be mud-slinging, but maybe it's true. No way to confirm, as far as I could find.

‘He always created magic out of the script’: A look at Don Mlangeni Nawa’s memorable TV roles | The Citizen further reminded Malema that similar accusations had been made against the EFF after Malema went to London a few years ago.

“Honourable Malema, you visited London a few years ago and said that [Nelson] Mandela was a sellout. And then there were reports, and those reports kept coming, and I was not even intending to raise it here, but I do so because we do need to deal with this issue because it is cancerous.”

He mentioned Britain’s foreign secret intelligence service, MI6, which is famous for being the group the fictional James Bond character works for.


“The report that came out was that the EFF was an MI6 project. I rejected that because I knew we were dealing with people of good character, that you would never go to that extent, and they keep coming with the position that one holds now. In the end you need to deal with the character of the person. I have rejected those types of statements, Malema, because I look at you and your character and your commitment to the people of this country.”

He urged MPs to refrain from making such accusations in future because they could lead to the deaths of the comrades.

“Beware of the wedge-driver. Watch his poisonous snake. I can testify I’ve never ever been a spy, I’ve never worked with the enemy. All I’ve ever done in my life is my commitment to the people of our country. That’s all,” he said.

The British spying rumour has now again been used by some of the EFF’s detractors, which evidently led EFF chairperson Dali Mpofu to respond on Sunday that the EFF’s proposed inquiry into whether “#RamaphosaSoldOut” could also cover whether there was any truth to the MI6 allegation too.


He said that if either could be proven to be true, it should lead to the end of either accused’s political life. The EFF would shut up shop and/or Ramaphosa would step down.

If it is true, then this is all normal Western divide-and-conquer tactics - create a violent domestic political movement in order to increase internal tension, just like BLM was created in America. When considering that S.A. is one of the founding members of BRICS+, Trump, has every reason to pressure it in the same way the West has done with all the false claims of Uyghur genocide in China. Basically, if there actually is a genocide of whites, it may be totally funded and organized by the globalists in the West. They create a bogeyman, then chastise other nations about their domestic problems. If any of this is true, Trump would be better off bringing this issue up with the US State Department, Pentagon and CIA, not President Ramaphosa.

Anyways, it's all sort of beyond my ability to understand.
 
Anyways, it's all sort of beyond my ability to understand.
That's a good breakdown and yes, it's complicated. I think Trump is being misled about SA and we know that he doesn't read so he is likely getting fed info by people close to him. One of the printouts Trump held up wasn't even about SA, it was a story about women being killed in the Congo. The pictures of crosses weren't burial sites, they were a memorial for a murdered couple and the crosses are not even there anymore. None of the people singing kill the Boer in the video Trump played have anything to do with the Ramaphosa admin. You've detailed Malema, and there was also former president Zuma who is now a part of the opposition party.

It's certainly possible that this was instead retribution by Trump for SA calling out Israel for genocide as mabar mentioned. I hope that's not true, but it's certainly possible that people close to Trump know how to get him worked up and channel his energy towards what they want.
 
That's a good breakdown and yes, it's complicated. I think Trump is being misled about SA and we know that he doesn't read so he is likely getting fed info by people close to him. One of the printouts Trump held up wasn't even about SA, it was a story about women being killed in the Congo. The pictures of crosses weren't burial sites, they were a memorial for a murdered couple and the crosses are not even there anymore. None of the people singing kill the Boer in the video Trump played have anything to do with the Ramaphosa admin. You've detailed Malema, and there was also former president Zuma who is now a part of the opposition party.
I had no clue that this was going on, and it's hilarious and cringey. It even made them announce the the US won't be attending the G20 summit. It's also funny that Elon just distance himself form the administration too.
 
It seems to me that it is the latter.

Puma, I think you have a consistently negative bias against Trump and you view everything he does through that lens. Each instance that you write or quote about Trump may not be wrong per se, but you, deliberately or not, tend to ignore the context, the bigger picture that Trump is operating within. It has become so obvious and consistent that I tend to skip and ignore anything you write about Trump although you write a lot about him.

I don't know why you have such bias about Trump. But I think it would be good for you to examine that. Unless, of course, that you prefer your own view of Trump and have no wish to examine that.
Great question, I'd suggest @Puma, if you'd like to address this, then it may be better to discuss it in separate thread. So as to not distract from this discussion.
 
There's a big uproar over the claimed improper use of the words "white genocide" by Trump. The propaganda media and the usual leftist instigators (mainly black) are hunting down statistics and fact checking furiously to prove such a thing is not happening. This is kind of weird to me. The terrorizing and killing of farmers has been happening for many years and there's plenty of evidence, this isn't anything new. The new thing is Trump speaking of it
South Africa has a very complex and no so just in modern history. I went to find more information for the purpose of understanding why the white genocide and where it comes from. Certain numbers give perspective. The killing of farmers has been happening and not just white ones, as other gross crimes, I do not doubt that in some cases, and I have not verified all of them, vicious and with a lot of hate, just as there are still cases of violence perpetuated by whites against blacks. Violence that seems to me that might increase with the new approved law of expropriation without retribution, and I can understand the terror it can generate for white farmers.

I listened to this interview recently which gives a fairly detailed account of what's happened in SA concerning the changes in government over the years and the situation with the farmers and their 400 yr. history. She speaks of The Open Society, Soros, having a long time office in South Africa and how these policies have promoted racism being the favored method of conquest as we know. This influence has grown after the governance of Mandela. A side affect of getting rid of most of the people who grow the food for the nation is eventually starvation, another favored outcome of the controller's we also know. Hatred of Israel and aligning with Iran for economics is mentioned.

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Yes, very understandable that changes and policies progressives (and is a purpose of Open Society in SA) --Even though funding black students in Apartheid didn't seem like a bad idea. The part about progressive policies promoting racism is not so clear to me, since racism already existed and has existed for a long time, it may not be helping much, although I need more information and knowledge of SA.

AS far as I am understanding is not getting rid of most of the people who grow the food for the nation is eventually starvation, It is to redistribute the land so that the blacks can also work it and with that we intend to eliminate the famine, but it is easier said than done. And I have read comments where it is compared to Zimbabwe, where something similar happened, but the people had neither resources nor knowledge, which the government did not provide and it backfired.

This would be the ideal, I have not done much research on what is currently happening with the people who are receiving the land to work it, though.


From Revolver
I also read it but it was too dense with all the emotional charge that is presented.
 

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