Trying to investigate dental oral microbiology report

[hlat]

I'm looking at an oral microbiology report ordered by a family member's dentist from Biofilm Diagnostics, Division of OraVital Inc.
_http://www.oravitalpro.com/ovs-lab.php

Samples were taken from the family member's tongue, maxillary teeth, and mandibular teeth.

The items tested for were: gram-positive bacteria cocci, bacilli; gram-negative bacteria cocci, straight bacilli, fusiforms, spirochetes, curved bacilli; yeast; amoebae; and white blood cells.

The results indicated infections from gram-negative bacteria straight bacilli, fusiforms, and curved bacilli; and white blood cells.

The dentist is recommending buying and using OraVital's mouthrinses FM4, CX620, 220, and CDLx. I cannot find information on the internet about these specific mouthrinses so I'll need to request information from the dental office.

I'm wondering whether the infections are actually infections, whether the recommended treatments will actually treat the infections or are harmful to the patient like so many recommended dental treatments (eg fluoride), and what alternative treatments are effective (eg swishing with lugols iodine).

 

[Yupo]

This is not really my area, but I'd think to determine a possible pathology situation you would need speciation and percentages of such organisms. Some of these labs are doing PCR (polymerase chain reaction) for DNA amplification. Details about species and variance from norms are provided on reports. Then a custom, topical antibiotic compound can be prepared, usually one client at a time.
It is interesting, useful, affordable technology.
It might be the rinses are useful and appropriate.

 

[hlat]

I agree with your comments and the report is lacking in detail about particular species or material being tested for. It gave me an impression of a money grab or amateur night or scam.

 

[nicklebleu]

I agree with your comments and the report is lacking in detail about particular species or material being tested for. It gave me an impression of a money grab or amateur night or scam.

The problem I see is: Of course there are bacteria in the mouth. You cannot eradicate them, nor would that be beneficial per se. You would need to know what bacteria are present, as a lot or most of them might just be part of the buccal flora. So I agree with Yupo that you would need to know which species are present and to what degree.

And before embarking on a treatment with different mouth washes, I would like to know what exactly is in there - I bet they are full of fluoride.

In the end it probably depends what the testee suffers from: acute infection, chronic gingivitis, root infection? In many of the oral pathologies I don't think that simple mouth washes would do the trick. And of course diet would be a big part of the solution.

A holistic dentist not hellbent on making big bucks might be worth getting a second opinion from, although I suppose this is hard to find.

Good luck!

 

[hlat]

A holistic dentist not hellbent on making big bucks might be worth getting a second opinion from, although I suppose this is hard to find.

This dentist is supposed to be holistic, but I regard this terrible microbiology report as a warning sign. The family member has no obvious signs of a teeth problem or infection and the previous dentist had no concerns. I'll have to schedule a discussion with the dentist.