Two dreams - channeling and crop circles and human harvest.

RedFox

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I've had some pretty weird dreams the last few days I wanted to share.

The first was Thursday night/Friday morning. I was with several members of the forum on an outing, it was a literal field trip in that we all ended up sat in a field discussing many different things, the weather was good with a bright blue sky above. Laura (although she didn't look like Laura) then gave a talk on channelling/the history of (the things covered in Secret History of the World, plus new information).
I was sat away from the main group listening, but also working on something. I was trying to re-invent the stone pot method of channelling from putting all the pieces together (this is not something I've ever put much thought into, so I was a little surprised to find myself doing it)......I came up with a small device consisting of two black bowls (one connected to/resting on the other) that formed a pair shape.
Laura came over and asked (in quite a serious tone) what message had I been able to receive? The message so far was 'l.o.t.h.o' lotho????
"Its meant to be 'lithograph'" she said....[to print from a template?]
I appologised and my 'poor me' self criticising program kicked in program kicked in with "I guess I can't do this?"
"You Can do this" she insisted quite strongly....at which point I realised that this program was covering for the fact that I had not got enough data/done enough research to even attempt to try......not enough data in the translator to translate.
We all left the field and Joe went back to take a picture (we where just walking into a field of very tall grass).....I looked back and where we'd been sat was a massive crop circle....it looked like it had been made with a spyrograph....almost like petals of a flower, except each petal had quite a lot of detailed patterning to it.
"Wait, we've been doing this inside a crop circle the whole time?" I said....."Yes"
"I know I can be slow but I only just figured that out"


The second dream was Friday night/Saturday morning. I use to have Many running from 'things' dreams/nightmares...so to have a re-occurrence of this theme was quite off putting. I could use a little help on the interpretation of this one, simply because normally when I 'run' in dreams its driven by emotion....and although I was running 'for my life' I did not feel fearful for once....

I was in a school and part of a class (not sure if I was teaching, speaking or just observing) that may well have been something to do with the FOTCM. I then noticed a loud noise, it was a cross between the noise the UFO's in the film Mars Attacks make (B movie UFO noise) and the noise the alien in Independents Day made when it came out of its suit (ultra sonic, slightly painful).
I quietened the class and asked if anyone else could hear that?? No one responded for a moment then another guy jumped up with a look of horror on his face and shouted "Yes!". I asked if we'd heard from any other schools/groups.....someone started trying to make contact with them (with a CB?) only to say that they've not reported anything.
I move to the windows and look out in each direction trying to locate the source of the noise....its a beautiful clear bright blue sky day again, with a slight touch of mist/haze in the air, and you can see for miles easily. Out of the haze comes first one, then another, then a third UFO.....the middle one is at a fixed altitude with a tube of light blue light beneath it heading towards a distant building!!!
Well I knew what it was.....they where hear to take everyone (to were or for what I dread to think, but I got the impression it wasn't in our own interest to hang around and find out). Although I didn't see it, I also understood that this tube of light could take people from inside buildings....possibly by passing through the walls.
"Out! Everyone out!" I shouted "Run, we need to run now!" I hit the fire alarm and ran out of the building.
Outside there where lines of students standing around or moving away from the building looking back at it. "Everyone head for the tree, it will confuse there sensors" I shouted. Everyone did so....lining up under the nearest trees.
I looked back to see one of these ships heading to the school from the direction we'd been running from, its tube of light was just about to touch the school.
"We need to keep moving!" I shouted as I started to run past them "Its heading this way!"
I slowed down and started feeling weaker as I noticed no one was moving from that spot.....a small child (knee hight) grabbed my right leg and held on (with a death grip) to try and slow me down.
"You need to let go, we need to keep moving" I said. The child was crying and begging me to stay. I think I said something like "I cannot run with you on my leg, you need to let go now!"
I stopped and removed the child, and he flung himself back onto my leg.....for some reason I felt too weak to remove this child, and him holding on was making me weaker and weaker.....I could hardly move (it was also getting darker, moving from day to night). I tried to work out the appropriate level of force to use to remove the child (trying to act for my own destiny)...and eventually knocked him off my leg by moving past a tree......[I am quite upset by using force towards a child! :( This is troubling my a lot, but at the time I just had to keep moving and had no strength to carry or argue with another.....he seemed to weigh a ton and drain me of all my strength]

Upon turning around to continue going forward I found myself in a building with others who where still moving/running. It appeared to be a nursing home. I shouted a warning about needing to run and the nurses and residents started to appear. I may well have pulled the alarm there too.
The others who where running went ahead, from what I could see of outside it appeared to have gone from day to night quite suddenly [things usually get darked in my dreams when my emotions become fearful, but I still didn't 'feel' scared, just determined to survive and try and get others away].
I ran down a corridor looking for a way out, to have the door at the end open and an elderly gentleman with black hair and piercing eyes step out and confront me. He grabbed my arms and barred my path. I'm not sure he said anything or if someone else did, but I heard "We should stay inside and wait for it to pass".
I moved away and he followed/blocked me. I ran sideways away from him, opened a window quickly and dived through.....he was unable to follow. I went round a corner and into a room where I could see the edge of one of the beams/tubes outside the window...it was literally about to be on top of the building [interesting note....despite 'knowing' what it would do to the occupants of a building, I never saw it actually happen...so don't know if this was a trick]....I was about to dive through another window when I woke up feeling slightly shaken.

Any feedback on the above would be appreciated....
My interpretations so far was the first one was a mirror on my starting projects and then failing, reinforcing my belief system that I'm incapable/a failure.....when in fact I can do things but lack the proper data/practice/learning to do so. Not sure about the channelling aspect, why the word 'lithograph' or what the crop circle means (other than being a 6th density thought form??)....

The second....I don't know. The sound seemed to trigger things in people.....I'm wondering if one of those triggered was me, or if the running for my life was justified....this led me to use force against those stopping me from 'running'....
I've had dreams like this at least half my life, but not for many years.....running from things in the sky was a common theme, this however was really quite graphic in what I was running from.....yet all I ever saw them do was approach with a beam, but never take anyone or do anything other than get me running.

Both 'Laura' and the man who stopped me in the dream where forceful, patient, and had intense eyes.....I do not know if they are in the same category.
The man in my dream seems to be the same or similar one to this dream I posted about.
 
I understand people are grasping at anything that might be helpful for developing a reliable communication link. The black bowls sounds like it may work. Whatever people use will need to be reliable and it seems in order for it to be reliable, a person must do work on them selves, also.

I also find it interesting about being able to identify your predator. That seems to be a focus point for me these days. Now that I can see my predator in things I have done, it is getting more easy to see that predator in action, with the things I do daily. It gets to be like the gopher game at the county fair. I think my predator gets a headache from time to time.
 
Hi RedFox,

I cannot say much, but what comes to mind when reading about that child clinging on to you and weakening you, is how that child could represent everything unhealed in you, impeding your progress. As with all subjectivity, it is blinding and thus weakening you. Pushing the 'child' away however seems like shoving something under the rug. As the 'child' was clinging to you so desperately, you could've taken a look in order to find out what's going on. So, can you take a look and find out what this child could stand for?

Also, I think it's not useful to feel guilt because of pushing that child away in your dreams. The child is a symbol. The dream is there for you to understand something. However, now that you're feeling guilt about it, maybe that indicates even stronger that you didn't handle the 'child' in the right way.
 
Puzzle said:
Hi RedFox,

I cannot say much, but what comes to mind when reading about that child clinging on to you and weakening you, is how that child could represent everything unhealed in you, impeding your progress. As with all subjectivity, it is blinding and thus weakening you. Pushing the 'child' away however seems like shoving something under the rug. As the 'child' was clinging to you so desperately, you could've taken a look in order to find out what's going on. So, can you take a look and find out what this child could stand for?

Also, I think it's not useful to feel guilt because of pushing that child away in your dreams. The child is a symbol. The dream is there for you to understand something. However, now that you're feeling guilt about it, maybe that indicates even stronger that you didn't handle the 'child' in the right way.

I had similar thoughts when I read that part of the dream. I felt that the emphasis was on how the 'inner child' will keep you from moving on and may even turn you into a target. Not that we should just kick him away, of course - we can't anyway - but he needs to grow up as a matter of urgency.

Reminds me of:

"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; now that I have become a man, I am done with childish ways and have put them aside."
 
Hi, Redfox.

Regarding the child slowing you down, my first thought was that it was something attempting to keep you in danger, then later you mention someone older trying to keep you in a dangerous environment. Maybe the child is representative of the abuse of your compassion for malevolent purpose? And the older figure the abuse of authority?
 
Thanks for all the input, its really helpful!!
It always surprises me not being able to see all the things I can normally see in others dreams.

I think you are all right about the child. If I remember rightly the right side of your body is to do with masculine and giving, and your legs represent your ability to move forward in life. I have been feeling really frustrated recently (more so before starting the Ultra Simple diet) about not being able to do/give what is needed/what I want.
My behaviour in the first dream (attempting to 'do' without enough data, then feeling 'useless' because it 'failed') I've had since childhood, so this seems related.
It also strikes me that part of the problem with all this is misinterpretation of internal signals, and broken lines of communication. To have to do this through dream work shows me quite clearly that this information isn't getting through.......I think the 'channelling' in the first dream may well be to do with this.
If I had actually joined in the group discussions in the dream instead of going off on my own (assuming I knew enough already!) I would probably have done better.

The older man in the second dream tried to stop me by gripping both of my forearms.....he seems unable to move well himself (no legs?), or raise his arms....like he was stuck in some sort of standing position he could move around in but only in certain ways....his flexibility of movement was severely limited.

When I was a child (having suffered oxygen deprivation as at birth....this is what I have always assumed was the problem anyway) I had no short term memory and very poor motor control......I vaguely remember (but more so my mum told me) that playing with Lego as a kid I would scream with frustration until I could put them together. I had to hold my elbows into the sides of my body in order to get enough fine motor control to put them together.......seems similar to this older man in the dream perhaps?

All that and the traumatic high strangeness I suffered with as a kid matching with the high strangeness in the dreams (even the running from high strangeness in dreams was my first and reoccurring for years nightmare).....all these dreams seem to be a rather large reminder that this stuff is not done with yet and is still influencing me today.
Just like with my diet I'm resolving to take responsibility for all this and see what I can do about it....part of me wants to say "I don't know what to do/where to start" (suggestions welcome), but that I think is the scared child in me thinking he will get it wrong or fail. Who is probably still terrified for his life of some of the high strangeness and will run (in his head) to get away from it no matter what.....because I couldn't run in real life when it happened.
So I will start by sending that part of me hugs and reassurance :flowers:

Wow...this is going to be painful.
 
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