Two Ideas About What The Wave Is

[OneLittleBird]

Could the wave be related to collective consciousness? I know that the C's say that "all is connected" however, I'm wondering if the "cause" of the wave is the awakening of awareness and/or the "anchoring of frequency" by individuals; and the "crest" of the wave is when the collective consciousness of 3rd density humans hits a critical mass of awareness?
Just a theory.

Another Theory:
My first heavy reading of esoteric material was Walter Russell's Universal Law, Natural Science and Philosophy, A Home Study Course.
In this, and his other works, he claims that his consciousness went out of body for an extended period (I think several weeks) and he was "in the light" (but still able to control his body) and shown the way the universe operates. He goes on to explain that atoms and galaxies operate similarly and that atoms change their composition as their axis of rotation changes (think of a bicycle wheel spinning while you hold the shaft in your hands, and move the axis 45 degrees; the same way we create the gyration effect). He postulates that when the axis of the magnesium atom, for example, changes 22.5 degrees it becomes aluminum. His theories are all based on circular/spiral motion (in everything in the universe), duality and waves.

My question is; if his theories are correct, could the wave be our solar system, and/or galaxy, transitioning to 4th density because it is moving into another phase on it's axis of rotation, similar to his theory on atoms?

I've recently been trying to conceptualize what the Wave is and I often go back to Walter Russell's work. I have no idea if he is legitimate or just self-aggrandized. Apparently, Tesla knew him and said that his ideas were too advanced for the human race at that point in time (which was early-mid 1900s).

I wonder if it would be worth it for Laura and Company to ask the C's about Walter Russell, whether he indeed was "in the light" and if his theories are worth pursuing?

Hope this info adds value. Kind regards to all...

 

[Tumble]

I think it was Saint Augustine who is reported as asking his Bishop what God was doing before the Creation – and got the reply that God was making hell for those who would ask that question.

Could the wave be related to collective consciousness? I know that the C's say that "all is connected" however, I'm wondering if the "cause" of the wave is the awakening of awareness and/or the "anchoring of frequency" by individuals; and the "crest" of the wave is when the collective consciousness of 3rd density humans hits a critical mass of awareness?
Just a theory.

The point is OneLittleBird, that some questions are indeed a waste of time except for the purpose of expanding perception. We will know what the Wave is in fact after it has hit (if it does!). Until then and beyond I sense, there is plenty of Knowledge and Being to develop (stocking up on oil for your lamp) through real interactions in the life we existentially live, not out there in conceptual paradise. In the first instance you will find a good explanation for The Wave at _http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=11&lsel=W.

Another Theory:
My first heavy reading of esoteric material was Walter Russell's Universal Law, Natural Science and Philosophy, A Home Study Course.
In this, and his other works, he claims that his consciousness went out of body for an extended period (I think several weeks) and he was "in the light" (but still able to control his body) and shown the way the universe operates. He goes on to explain that atoms and galaxies operate similarly and that atoms change their composition as their axis of rotation changes (think of a bicycle wheel spinning while you hold the shaft in your hands, and move the axis 45 degrees; the same way we create the gyration effect). He postulates that when the axis of the magnesium atom, for example, changes 22.5 degrees it becomes aluminum. His theories are all based on circular/spiral motion (in everything in the universe), duality and waves.

My question is; if his theories are correct, could the wave be our solar system, and/or galaxy, transitioning to 4th density because it is moving into another phase on it's axis of rotation, similar to his theory on atoms?

I've recently been trying to conceptualize what the Wave is and I often go back to Walter Russell's work. I have no idea if he is legitimate or just self-aggrandized. Apparently, Tesla knew him and said that his ideas were too advanced for the human race at that point in time (which was early-mid 1900s).

I wonder if it would be worth it for Laura and Company to ask the C's about Walter Russell, whether he indeed was "in the light" and if his theories are worth pursuing?

Hope this info adds value. Kind regards to all...

As for Walter Russell and his followers: this consciousness unit searched on Walter Russell and came across a representative sampling of his 'teachings'. I was intrigued to find some interesting points of view on subject matter I am interested in – Mind, Electric Reality and Sexuality which was not too dissimilar to the research results on Cassiopaea so far.
Now while I was enriched by conceptual ideation, I came away thinking that something is not quiet right. After reflection I decided on what was bothering me about Walter and the website offering his 'insights' at http://www.philosophy.org/
One: No links to independent or collinear research inviting critical assessment. Without the help of a network of minds, the whole shebang of Russell esoterica lies in the shadows of subjectivity – read STS hyper dimensional manipulations.
Two: No detailed explorations for global ideas which seem to have been taken in cart blanche. Where are the steps listed to enable growth in Knowledge and Being? There is no realistic method of getting from here to there offered, but there is plenty of feel good go back to sleep it will be alright as long as you do not think critically - WITH A HAMMER!
Three: No concept offered to explain the ponerogenic process or the clear evidence of hyper-dimensional manipulations – the book Masquerade of Angels comes immediately to mind here in view of Russell's mode of enlightenment – 39 days cruising the astral planes it seems to me – almost enough time to create a world religion! Talk about “out of it”.


OneLittleBird, the alchemists offered a small story to describe situations like this and what the seeker should do – the story says that in times of old there were particular Swans who knew such a level of perspicacity or discernment that they could separate cream from milk and only drink the cream. This is what we must learn to do here in this process of ascension – we must develop the Knowledge and Being to pass subtler and subtler tests as we approach graduation. As birds of a feather, we seek to help each other on the Way, but the Way is here, not then or somewhere else – dig?
Thanks for bring my attention to Walter Russell – all is not lost, there is cream of a sorts. But for you perhaps, philosophy.org is a distraction perhaps? :) I hope these coments help you to further open, AND ALIGN to more STO 4D impressions - if that is your immutable nature.

Hey birds of a feather, Fly with us – we the penitent templar carriers Ho Ho (search in transcripts for more info). We are off to visit the Simorgh (Reference to Farid ud-Din Attar's “The Conference of the Birds”) – forget the wizard Dorothy!

 

[OneLittleBird]

Dear Tumble,

Quite the reply. I appreciate the response and detailed opinion. I, too, agree that there is something lacking in Walter Russell's ideas. His material does come across as very subjective and close to the boundary of self-prophesying disinfo.

It's difficult to wade through all the information out there and find the gems of truth, even in the C's and Ra Material. But I give the bad information credit too (not necessarily meaning the C's and Ra Material are bad info), because in many cases it's spurred me to dig deeper.

Overall, I feel that I'm living fully in 3rd density... I continue to learn lessons and apply the STO principles to my life and actions. However, the Cs did say that when we are 4th Density Canditates, we should, at our own pace, move away from the constraints of 3rd Density. I view this as meaning giving up the ideas of possession/excessive materialism, fear of scarcity, control of others, addiction, playing an active role in the control systems, etc. When we've accomplished these things to a personally satisfactory degree, I think it's healthy and fun to contemplate difficult concepts, such as what the Wave might be. I realize you weren't dissuading me from such contemplations, maybe just reminding me, and others who might read this, not to get too caught up in more complex concepts, when the basic homework is challenging enough.

Overall, I really appreciate your feedback... and I'm just glad to have received a response :) Even if these theories are way off base, I still love the thought experiments and discourse with others.

Kind Regards,
OneLittleBird aka James

 

[Buddy]

It's difficult to wade through all the information out there and find the gems of truth, even in the C's and Ra Material. But I give the bad information credit too (not necessarily meaning the C's and Ra Material are bad info), because in many cases it's spurred me to dig deeper.

Speaking as someone who prefers to read the 'cons' of something along with the 'pros', I understand what you're saying.

Even if these theories are way off base, I still love the thought experiments and discourse with others.

Kind Regards,
OneLittleBird aka James

I know that feeling too. Here's my 2 cents:

If the hypothesized Wave represents an actual material reality, then it will be a lawful event and something with which we likely would be familiar in one way or the other (see Gurdjieff quote below, second paragraph).

If "hyperkinetic sensate" is a key word, then you might be close if you think in terms of conscience or emotional center opening. Do you recall from the Wave writings, any of Laura's descriptions of intense emotional experiences? Have you read all of the Wave or the Adventures Series?"

But then, I could also be off here.

In any case, the quote below may be helpful to you. We need to do all our reading and studying in the context of recalling our past experiences, noting our present experiences, paying attention to all the reality around us and looking for correlations in patterns and in principle. If we do this, maybe it won't be long before our thought experiments conclude with a few possible scenarios with just a little uncertainty thrown in - something we can live with.

But that's OK, because from the perspective of systems and information theory, to obtain zero (0) uncertainty would mean to find ourselves right there in the middle of it.

[quote author=ISOTM]
"In right knowledge the study of man must proceed on parallel lines with the study of the world, and the study of the world must run parallel with the study of man. Laws are everywhere the same, in the world as well as in man. Having mastered the principles of any one law we must look for its manifestation in the world and in man simultaneously. Moreover, some laws are more easily observed in the world, others are more easily observed in man. Therefore in certain cases it is better to begin with the world and then to pass on to man, and in other cases it is better to begin with man and then to pass on to the world.

"This parallel study of the world and of man shows the student the fundamental unity of everything and helps him to find analogies in phenomena of different orders. "The number of fundamental laws which govern all processes both in the world and in man is very small. Different numerical combinations of a few elementary forces create all the seeming variety of phenomena.
[/quote]

 

[SeekinTruth]

Overall, I feel that I'm living fully in 3rd density... I continue to learn lessons and apply the STO principles to my life and actions. However, the Cs did say that when we are 4th Density Canditates, we should, at our own pace, move away from the constraints of 3rd Density. I view this as meaning giving up the ideas of possession/excessive materialism, fear of scarcity, control of others, addiction, playing an active role in the control systems, etc. When we've accomplished these things to a personally satisfactory degree, I think it's healthy and fun to contemplate difficult concepts, such as what the Wave might be. I realize you weren't dissuading me from such contemplations, maybe just reminding me, and others who might read this, not to get too caught up in more complex concepts, when the basic homework is challenging enough.

From my current understanding, it would be more accurate to say that C's mentions of "moving away from the constraints of 3rd Density" is more like being less identified with strict physicality. As we are all STS here and can only be STO candidates, we can't fully apply STO principles 100%. It's almost like our environment (being STS) exerts an overwhelming influence on us that keeps us from breaking away from STS completely simply by choice.

So, it's more like making greater and greater efforts, and taking more and more small steps toward STO. But as far as being a 4th Density Candidate goes, it is open for both STS and STO. When the lessons of 3rd Density have been completed, both STS and STO move to 4th Density. Just thought I'd make these points to clarify the differences between STO candidate and 4th Density candidate.

 

[OneLittleBird]

Great feedback.

@SeekinTruth
I think it's a great point and observation that while we're here in an STS 3rd Density world we're constantly bombarded by the necessity to conform to an STS way of living. However, I remember that Bringers of the Dawn says that we're also here to break those STS rules and show, through our actions, that we're not absolutely bound by the rules of an STS world. It's not easy, as we've all discovered, to give unconditionally and be a beacon of light. But, maybe that's why we're candidates and not 4D STO. Just a thought. I keep learning more. Thanks for the reply.

@Buddy
Thanks for the Gurdjieff quotes. I like the idea that the Wave is a known law. Something to meditate on and learn exactly what it is for ourselves, maybe.

Kind regards to both of you.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Great feedback.

@SeekinTruth
I think it's a great point and observation that while we're here in an STS 3rd Density world we're constantly bombarded by the necessity to conform to an STS way of living. However, I remember that Bringers of the Dawn says that we're also here to break those STS rules and show, through our actions, that we're not absolutely bound by the rules of an STS world. It's not easy, as we've all discovered, to give unconditionally and be a beacon of light. But, maybe that's why we're candidates and not 4D STO. Just a thought. I keep learning more. Thanks for the reply.

Yeah, we should definitely make the efforts to go against the default STS influences. If one's nature tends to STO, that is. There are, however, also those whose true nature is STS and they are also learning their 3rd Density lessons and they can, at some point, "graduate" to 4th Density STS. We're not really concerned with that here on this forum, though, as our AIM and activities (as with any true Fourth Way type groups) are concerned with STO growth and development for possible STO "graduation." All Work and efforts are committed to the STO path, but we still need to acknowledge that the STS path exists for others for whom that is the "correct" path. That's what I was trying to point out in my earlier post, more or less, and it seems we understand each other.

 

[Pierrrr]

Joel Rea is drawing the future a.k.a. "The Wave"
Beneath The Blue
_http://www.joelrea.com.au/

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[mada85]

I think it's a great point and observation that while we're here in an STS 3rd Density world we're constantly bombarded by the necessity to conform to an STS way of living. However, I remember that Bringers of the Dawn says that we're also here to break those STS rules and show, through our actions, that we're not absolutely bound by the rules of an STS world. It's not easy, as we've all discovered, to give unconditionally and be a beacon of light. But, maybe that's why we're candidates and not 4D STO. Just a thought. I keep learning more. Thanks for the reply.

I think that 'breaking the rules' doesn't have to be some dramatic act. Life consists of a thousand small things every day, and with a little work on our part, those little things could become the beginnings of something new.

One of the 'rules' is the accepted social norms of what people find safe to talk about. Most people stay within their comfort zone, and many have a strong emotional reaction to various topics, for example smoking, which usually prevents them from hearing anything that breaks the 'rules'. In those cases, 'breaking the rules' can be as simple as gently introducing a little new, 'rule-breaking' information according to the person's level of understanding.

We know that the knowledge discussed and shared on the forum is of great benefit to humanity. So one can always 'test the waters' in a conversation and find out what people are open to, and where their boundaries are. One can then adjust what one says, in terms of giving the kind of knowledge we share here, to their level of understanding. Careful observation is required, though, and one should always keep external consideration in mind.

Although the world is in a really bad state, and people are dumbed down and sleeping, who knows when a little seed might bear fruit? I do think it's worth making the effort.