UFO battle over Russia?

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Virtualme

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Found this interesting.

_http://www.ufocasebook.com/flyingsaucerbattle.html

Describes a group of UFOS sighted within Russia in the late 80s. One of the craft is the target of the rest and eventaully falls to Earth. Its attackers then flee upwards leaving us with a reckage.
 
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Hi Virtualme,
In case this battle between flying saucers happenned, what makes you think it has anything to do with STS people attacking STO people?
 
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Considering Cold War Russia i've also stumbled upon some supposedly KGB video of Grays... Sorry if this was already discussed here...

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XswfEzKE0UQ

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mkrnhr said:
Hi Virtualme,
In case this battle between flying saucers happenned, what makes you think it has anything to do with STS people attacking STO people?
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Hi mkrnhr, a group of them wouldnt display such warlike activity and then leave a reckage, plus damage to terrestrial power grids if it was STO. (Lets not even go into the potential risks including disease, radiation poisoning and new bacteria being introduced.)
After I read the account of the event I felt struck by the idea that this was STS attacking STO. The Russian secret operatives then find the crashed object and after taking into account public exposure to this event - they treat this find as an example of the bad guys being brought down. Which later bolsters there fruitful relationship with STS ETs....this is how I discerned it all. (Alittle like the U.S. and their realtionship with the Greys until they realised the Greys told lies.)
 
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Yozilla said:
Considering Cold War Russia i've also stumbled upon some supposedly KGB video of Grays... Sorry if this was already discussed here...

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XswfEzKE0UQ

y
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Im not sure about those images, part of me feels that they are part of a "lets get you used to what they may look like" type exercise by mixing truth with lies.

I did find thier clothing interesting. I suppose, in a colder climate they have to wear a more thicker looking garb where as in the US they prefare skin clinging outfits.
 
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Well, one could also imagine an STS group shooting at another STS group for whatever reason: politics, money, drugs, jealousy, sick fun, etc. If things are complicated here, we can suppose that it might be complicated elsewhere :)
 
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Yep, your right...good point.

Maybe they are joining forces though these days to increase numbers against STO.
 
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Virtualme said:
Yep, your right...good point.

Maybe they are joining forces though these days to increase numbers against STO.
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Hi Virtualme just one question, have you read all the wave books? (the wave series)
 
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Hi, I have read what I can and keep nipping back to it. Please direct me to something if that helps.
 
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I have read most of that my friend.

Everyone has their own view or perception upon what they study and my views in this post where theories based upon that supposed UFO incident.
 
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Virtualme said:
I have read most of that my friend.

Everyone has their own view or perception upon what they study
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The above would be much more accurate if it said: Everyone has their own view or perception upon what they understand!

and my views in this post where theories based upon that supposed UFO incident.
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It is generally ok to hypothesize and theorize about things as long as one keeps in mind that these are only one or some of the possibilities that can describe an event or other subject of speculation. When one gets to the point of 'believing' one's own hypotheses without any real factual and/or verifiable data regarding the event in question, or even any real ability to understand the dynamics of what one is observing it really becomes a waste of time and energy - what is sometimes called 'wiseacreing'.

In reply #3 you mention "I felt struck by the idea" and follow on later in that post with "this is how I discerned it all". So, basically, this is just a guess on your part. I am not at all attempting to knock down your theory here, as it is possible you are right on with your ideas. However, there are so many possibilities that we could think of, and probably many more we cannot think of, that the odds of this being entirely correct are probably fairly low.

The point is that for those things for which we have no way of obtaining real concrete evidence and data for we must be very careful of thinking we have any real chance of understanding them. It doesn't mean we can't discuss them as long as we keep these things in mind and understand that in cases of 'High Strangeness' it will usually be very difficult or impossible to find the truth regarding them.[/quote]
 
virtualme said:
I have read most of that my friend.

Everyone has their own view or perception upon what they study and my views in this post where theories based upon that supposed UFO incident.
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Yes, everyone does have their own view or perception of what they study, however this is simply an opinion, as opposed to a more factual view. In this network, we are working to arrive at a more objective view of reality, as far as is possible for us. Subjective opinions are like sacred cows. Very often a person is so enamoured of his or her thought processes, and has such an emotional investment in their latest amazing idea, that they are completely unable to let go of their opinions, even in the face of new facts. Indeed, many people take their own opinions to be facts and proceed from there. This results in a view of reality which can be very far removed from the truth.

You may like to check out the forum thread on Opinions.
 
The event described is a mystery and all I shared here was my view with the hope that others would contribute along the same lines - i.e: a discussion. I wasnt expecting a therapy session of advice given by long term members. Cant we newbies just chat and discuss without interference from leaders here :D If I need your wealth of experience I shall ask for it. Peace.
 
Virtualme said:
The event described is a mystery and all I shared here was my view with the hope that others would contribute along the same lines - i.e: a discussion. I wasnt expecting a therapy session of advice given by long term members. Cant we newbies just chat and discuss without interference from leaders here :D
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This isn't and wasn't a 'therapy session', and a defensive reaction of this kind is uncalled for. All that was happening in this thread is that the validity of your view - your theory - was being questioned. This is how we learn about ourselves, about our thought patterns, and how to approach a more objective view of the universe.

Here's an excerpt from the forum guidelines that relates directly to this discussion:

Methodology:

*Facilitation of the creation and the sharing of objective knowledge by providing the framework/resources/moderation and "elder brother guidance."

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*Capitalization, sharing, analysis of information on key topics

*Scientific approach. Collection of direct and indirect data (videos, articles, books extracts,...),sources validation, elaboration and challenge of hypothesis and theories consistent with validated data.

* Maximization of the signal to noise ratio
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It may be worth your while to go back and read the forum guidelines, which I think would give you a better understanding of our approach here.

Virtualme said:
If I need your wealth of experience I shall ask for it.
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Those who join this forum, presumably having read and understood the forum guidelines, are in fact asking for that very thing.
 
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