Very clear film of a saucer shaped ufo filmed by many witnesses with different camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mMbX5xIPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mMbX5xIPs
Ask_a_debtor said:Looks like it could be authentic. Something weird happens during the full video shot from the camcorder at 3:39. Looks like something flies over and up towards it from the bottom left of the video and disappears.
Shijing said:I found it interesting that they noted it was near both a HAARP facility and a NATO base -- calling to mind the high frequency with which UFOs are supposed to visit military and nuclear facilities.
Pashalis said:looks like it is wobbling all the time.
FireShadow said:Pashalis said:looks like it is wobbling all the time.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Could it perhaps be a balloon or some such?
They report that the object hovered and in the end took off really fast, but at the end of the video it looked like it just disappeared behind the tree...and not really that fast. It just seemed like someone tried to create the illusion that the object moved away fast without really showing it moving away really fast. I am not convinced it is authentic, but of course I could be wrong.
Approaching Infinity said:FireShadow said:Pashalis said:looks like it is wobbling all the time.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Could it perhaps be a balloon or some such?
AFAIK, wobbling is typical behavior for 'genuine' UFOs. Marc Davenport has an interesting hypothesis in his book Visitors from Time. He speculates that UFOs are not traveling in space per se, but actually time. They have to constantly calibrate their location in space, which gives them that wobbly appearance.
Ask_a_debtor said:Looks like it could be authentic. Something weird happens during the full video shot from the camcorder at 3:39. Looks like something flies over and up towards it from the bottom left of the video and disappears.
Approaching Infinity said:AFAIK, wobbling is typical behavior for 'genuine' UFOs. Marc Davenport has an interesting hypothesis in his book Visitors from Time. He speculates that UFOs are not traveling in space per se, but actually time. They have to constantly calibrate their location in space, which gives them that wobbly appearance.
Nienna Eluch said:Shijing said:I found it interesting that they noted it was near both a HAARP facility and a NATO base -- calling to mind the high frequency with which UFOs are supposed to visit military and nuclear facilities.
And the fact that HAARP is said by the Cs to allow easy movement between densities levels.
If this is authentic, it is interesting how this is so "in your face." Like it wants to be seen. It doesn't seem to be doing anything other than being noticed, which is what a lot of the UFOs seems to be doing. Making sure people know they are there.
Away With The Fairys said:Would you recommend the book Visitors from Time as a worthwhile read.
Approaching Infinity said:Away With The Fairys said:Would you recommend the book Visitors from Time as a worthwhile read.
I'd give it a mixed endorsement. It's REALLY good up to the last chapter. He goes through pretty much all the features of UFO sightings and explains how they could relate to time travel. BUT, then in the last chapter he gives a totally off the wall conclusion - that the aliens are the equivalent of "time cops" from the future, solving crime and catching bad guys! It's really a horrible conclusion, but everything up to that I found very thought provoking.
Q: (L) Going back to the beings that absorb nutrients through their
pores, what kind of beings are they?
A: Both those that you describe as the Lizard Beings and those you
describe as the Grays. This is necessary for their survival in each
case. Even though the Grays are not natural parts of the short wave
cycle, but rather an artificial creation by the Lizard Beings, but
nevertheless they mimic the nourishment functions.
Q: (L) Since they are artificially created by the Lizard beings, does
this mean they have no souls?
A: That's correct.
Q: (L) How do they function? Are they like robots?
A: They function by interaction with the souls of the Lizard beings.
This technology is extremely far in advance of that with which you
are familiar, but the Gray beings are not only built and designed
artificially, but also function as a projection mentally and psychically
of the Lizard beings. They are like four dimensional probes.
Q: (L) As four dimensional probes, what are their capabilities?
A: They have all the same capabilities of the Lizard beings except
for the fact that their physical appearance is entirely different and
they do not have souls of their own and also their biological structure
is internally different. But, their functioning is the same and in order
to remain as projection beings they also must absorb nutrients in the
same fashion both spiritually and physically as the Lizard beings do.
The reason the negative energy is necessary fuel is that the Lizard
beings and the Grays are both living in the fourth level of density,
which is the highest level of density one can exist in serving only self
as these entities do. So, therefore, they must absorb negative
energy because the fourth level of density is the highest example of
self service which is a negative thought pattern. The fourth level of
density is a progression from the third level of density. With each
progression upward in density level, the existence for the individual
conscious entity becomes less difficult. So, therefore, the fourth level
of density is less difficult to exist in that the third, the third is less
difficult than the second and so on. It puts less strain on the soul
energy. Therefore, beings existing on the fourth level of density can
draw from beings existing on the third level of density in terms of
absorption of negative soul energy. Likewise, beings on the third
level of density can draw from beings on the second level of density,
though this type of drawing is not as necessary but is done. This is
why human beings existing on the third level frequently cause pain
and suffering to those of the animal kingdom who exist on the
second level of density because you are drawing negative soul
energy as beings who primarily serve self, as you do, from those on
the second level, and on the first, and so on. Now, as you advance
to the fourth level of density which is coming up for you, you must
now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to others or
to remain at the level of service to self. This will be the decision
which will take quite some time for you to adjust to. This is what is
referred to as the "thousand year period." This is the period as
measured in your calendar terms that will determine whether or not
you will advance to service to others or remain at the level of service
to self. And those who are described as the Lizards have chosen to
firmly lock themselves into service to self. And, since they are at the
highest level of density where this is possible, they must continually
draw large amounts of negative energy from those at the third level,
second level, and so on, which is why they do what they do. This
also explains why their race is dying, because they have not been
able to learn for themselves how to remove themselves from this
particular form of expression to that of service to others. And, since
they have such, as you would measure it, a long period of time,
remained at this level and, in fact, become firmly entrenched in it,
and, in fact, have increased themselves in it, this is why they are
dying and desperately trying to take as much energy from you as
possible and also to recreate their race metabolically.
Q: (L) Well, if we are sources of food and labor for them, why don't
they just breed us in pens on their own planet?
A: They do.
Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't they just
move in and take over?
A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some
time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you
know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount
of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth
level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they
can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several
things. 1: retaining their race as a viable species; 2: increasing their
numbers; 3: increasing their power; 4: expanding their race
throughout the realm of fourth density. To do all of this they have
been interfering with events for what you would measure on your
calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been
doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward
and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all
of this will fail.
Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?
A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want
to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In
other words, it's the highest manifestation possible of that which you
would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented
on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You
know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you
because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level
and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your
awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see
since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth
level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want
it to be.
Approaching Infinity said:FireShadow said:Pashalis said:looks like it is wobbling all the time.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Could it perhaps be a balloon or some such?
They report that the object hovered and in the end took off really fast, but at the end of the video it looked like it just disappeared behind the tree...and not really that fast. It just seemed like someone tried to create the illusion that the object moved away fast without really showing it moving away really fast. I am not convinced it is authentic, but of course I could be wrong.
AFAIK, wobbling is typical behavior for 'genuine' UFOs. Marc Davenport has an interesting hypothesis in his book Visitors from Time. He speculates that UFOs are not traveling in space per se, but actually time. They have to constantly calibrate their location in space, which gives them that wobbly appearance.