UK Councils fear for Icelandic cash

RedFox

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I saw this one this morning too, but forgot about it until now.
I wonder if they will use this as an excuse to 'centralise' the power structure (which I've been noticing them trying to do here in the UK anyway, will post more on this if anyones interested). Makes me wonder why the icelandic bank crashed now. Could this perhaps be one of the main reasons?

_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7660438.stm (there is a video clip with the original article)
The amount of local authority cash at risk after being deposited in Icelandic banks has now risen to over £550m.

Council leaders are seeking an urgent meeting with the chancellor and are arguing the funds - from more than 70 authorities - must be guaranteed.

The Treasury has said councils must be treated "fairly" but ministers have so far declined to guarantee the money.

The Local Government Association insisted frontline council services were not at risk despite the crisis.

The Conservatives said that the total amount of money deposited in Icelandic banks could reach £1bn once all authorities' losses were clear. The Lib Dems said a third of councils may be affected.

Colin Barrow, leader of Westminster City Council, said the situation was "unfortunate" but insisted services would not be compromised.

"It is a very serious matter but it is not going to affect the way council services are being delivered," he told the BBC.

Council investments

The Treasury, which has given no guarantees over the money, said it wanted to "establish the facts" about councils' financial exposure and was prepared to have discussions with them about a "way forward".
Councils identified by the LGA, which represents authorities in England and Wales, include Kent County Council, which has £50m invested with Iceland-based banks.

The LGA is still trying to work out the total sums involved but deputy chief executive John Ransford disputed the Conservative claims of the amount of money at risk.

But he said that "significant" amounts of public money were at stake which must be protected.

"This is public money and we need to treat this in exactly the same way as individual investors in these banks," he told the BBC.

Westminster City Council has revealed it has deposits totalling £17m while Sutton and Havering Councils in London have investments worth £5.5m and £12.5m respectively.

North Lincolnshire Council has £2m deposited with Landsbanki and £3.5m in Heritable. North East Lincolnshire Council said it had £2.5m in deposits with Landsbanki.

Hertfordshire County Council has £17m invested, while Buckinghamshire has £5m, as has Cornwall County Council.

Mayor of London Boris Johnson has also revealed that Transport for London had £40m deposited in one of the affected banks.

"We are looking to see what redress we can find," he said.

'Massive shock'

The Conservatives have warned that town halls could face a "massive financial shock" and be forced into council tax hikes or cuts in local services.

"They are not going to find it easy in the short term," Eric Pickles, the shadow communities secretary, said.

He added: "We need to look at the number of authorities that will be facing a cash-flow problem - some have their payroll on this, for others it's in terms of long-term investment."

The Lib Dems said the money at stake was "essential" for delivering local services and urged ministers to "make clear" how such funding would be protected.

The LGA insisted all the councils involved had enough money to ensure that frontline services should not be affected.

But it wants the same protection for councils as has been given to personal customers of IceSave and other failed Icelandic banks.

Nick Chard, cabinet member for finance on Kent County Council, said the local authority would "fight to get every single penny back".

He defended the local authority's decision to invest in Icelandic banks despite concerns about their indebtedness, saying its investments were made on the basis on sound professional advice.

"We have followed the protocols exactly to the letter," he told the BBC, adding that it had spread its investments as widely as possible.

Anger

The BBC's local government correspondent John Andrew said there was growing anger among councils, which say they had followed Treasury advice by investing surplus money in a way that would deliver the highest return for taxpayers.

He said the councils had been told by the government that the Icelandic banks had been given a "double A" rating.

Gordon Brown has said legal action will be taken over Iceland's failure to guarantee compensation for UK customers in its banks.

Icelandic Prime Minister Geir Haarde said his government was working to repair relations with Britain amid the crisis.
 
Heres a breakdown

_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7660741.stm

Here are the councils known to have deposits in the collapsed Icelandic bank Landsbanki or its UK arm Heritable, or in other threatened Icelandic institutions:

* Kent County Council - £50 million
* Dorset County Council - £28.1 million
* Hertfordshire - £28 million
* Somerset County Council - £25 million
* Northumberland County Council - £23 million
* Hillingdon Council - £20 million
* Barnet Council- £27 million
* Westminster Council - £17 million
* Brent - £15 million
* Plymouth City Council £13 million
* Breckland Council - £12 million
* Havering Council - £12.5 million
* West Sussex - £12.9 million
* Gloucestershire County Council - £12 million
* Cheltenham Borough Council - £11 million
* Lancashire County Council - £10 million
* Wakefield - £9 million
* West Oxfordshire District Council - £9 million
* Wyre Forest District Council - £9 million
* Bristol City Council - £8 million
* Daventry District Council - £8 million
* Wiltshire County Council - £8 million
* West Lindsey District Council - £7 million
* Cherwell District Council - £6.5 million
* Redcar and Cleveland Council - £6 million
* Ceredigion - £5.5 million
* North Lincolnshire Council - £ 5.5 million
* Sutton Council - £5.5 million
* Braintree District - £5 million
* Buckinghamshire - £5 million
* Cornwall County Council - £5 million
* Exeter City Council - £5 million
* Ipswich Borough Council - £5 million
* Oxfordshire County Council - £5 million
* South Ayrshire - £5 million
* Wokingham Borough Council - £5 million
* Gateshead Council - £4.5 million
* Oxford City Council - £4.5 million
* Colchester Borough Council - £4 million
* East Lindsey District Council - £4 million
* East Staffordshire Borough Council - £4 million
* Powys Council £4 million
* Flintshire Council - £3.7 million
* North Somerset - £3 million
* Rhondda Cynon Taff Council - £3 million
* Solihull Council - £3 million
* Stroud - £3 million
* North East Lincolnshire Council - £2.5 million
* South Oxfordshire District Council - £2.5 million
* Cotswold District Council - £2 million
* Gloucester City Council - £2 million
* Great Yarmouth - £2 million
* Monmouthshire Council - £1.2 million
* Hertsmere Borough Council - £1 million
* Kirklees Council - £1 million
* Perth and Kinross Council - £1 million
* Tewkesbury Council - £1 million
* Vale of White Horse District Council - £1 million
* Winchester - £1 million
* Bassetlaw District Council - TBC
* Bracknell Forest - TBC
* Burnley Council - TBC
* Cheshire County Council - TBC
* Chorley Council - TBC
* North Ayshire - TBC
* Northumberland Council - TBC
* Nottingham City Council - TBC
* South Lanarkshire Council - TBC
* Surrey County Council - TBC
* Wychavon District Council - TBC

Other affected bodies

* Transport For London - £40 million
* Dorset Police Authority - £7 million
* Sussex Police Authority - £6.8 million
* Hertfordshire Police Authority - £3 million
* Gwent Police Authority - £1 million
* Metropolitan Police - TBC

Hmm, police funding too?

Q+A (with BBC 'spin')
_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7660800.stm
Q&A: Council funding at risk

What has happened?


It has emerged that a number of councils and other public authorities across the UK are worried about whether they will recover large sums of money they had invested in Icelandic banks which have now collapsed.

How much money is at stake?

No-one knows the full amount of local authority money held by Icelandic banks. Several councils have given details of how much they invested and the total sum, so far, according to BBC estimates adds up to around £600m. The Conservativess have warned the figure could rise to more than £1bn. The Local Government Association, which represents English and Welsh councils, says this is too high, but admits significant sums are involved.

Which councils are affected?

So far, about 74 councils have disclosed how much money they put into Icelandic banks. The figures range, in size, from £50m by Kent County Council to £1m by Tewkesbury Council. Other councils are currently trying to calculate their position and the figure is rising all the time. Other public bodies are also affected. Transport for London, which oversees bus and tube services in the capital, placed £40m with such banks while five police bodies also had similar investments.
Full list of councils affected

Why did put money into these banks?

Like any large organisation, councils have to put their money somewhere. They deposit their income in banks with money not required to fund day-to-day services and operations put into a range of investments. Central funding is tight and pressure to keep down council tax bills is acute so councils have been under instruction from the Treasury to maximise returns from their own money. This has led them to banks, such as those in Iceland, which offered highly competitive rates of interest.

Have councils behaved recklessly?

They say no. They argue that their investments were based on sound financial advice and that, even last week, the creditworthiness of the Icelandic banks, was judged to be very strong. They also insist that they didn't put all their eggs in one basket. They put their money in a large number of banks, spreading their risk accordingly.

How likely are they to get their money back?

The Treasury is looking into the issue but has declined to say it will guarantee councils' money in these banks, unlike private savings. Councils are urgently seeking a meeting with Chancellor Alistair Darling to raise their concerns. Experts point out that councils have been hit by previous bank failures and that, on those occasions, ministers have helped them out in areas such as business rates. A hastily arranged meeting to discuss the situation is taking place on Thursday afternoon.

Will council tax bills rise, or bins stop being collected?

There are fears about the impact on frontline services, particularly for smaller councils with limited budgets. The Tories say some of the sums at risk represent 75% of councils' annual budgets. Money used to pay staff wages may also be at risk. But large councils such as Kent and Westminster have insisted vital services will not be hit. They say the sums at stake represent a fraction of their annual expenditure and they keep cash reserves in hand to deal with any crisis situation.
 

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