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[Joe]

Have a look here

http://whmc.umsystem.edu/invent/2579.html#jour

half way down the page under index there is this

"Bush, George Herbert Walker (1924- )f. 57, 60, 63, 64"

Under Index Terms (at the top of the index list) there is a link that says:

These index terms are the subjects, people, places, etc. under which this collection is listed in all available indexes at the Western Historical Manuscript Collection-Columbia. If you are interested in a specific index term, please contact the reference staff.

Click on the reference link which is a Reference Request Form

which is

"used to contact the reference staff with questions concerning the holdings of the Western Historical Manuscript Collection-Columbia."

You apparently need to be affiliated with some academic institution to get a response. So if you fit the bill, i.e. if you are involved in some area of academia that could reasonably be construed to hold an interest in political or government matters i.e. sociology, politics history or anything of that nature, then:

can someone fill in their details and in the reference request box say you are looking or a newsletter by Sarah McClendon (as referenced on page linked at the top of this post) from Mrs. McClendon's newsletter in June 1992 where "Bush, George Herbert Walker" is referenced. Or some suitable obscure wording like that. You might want to say it is for a research paper.

Only one person please. No multiple requests.

Just as an FYI, the point is to try and find out if Bush really did say the following to McClendon in 1992:

"Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched."

 

[Adaryn]

_http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/02/can-you-verify-this-quote.html

One of the comments of this article says:

That quote is very old, and I know I have seen it before, but I do not know if it is real. It should be easy to find out for anyone willing to trapse to the library, though (assuming they have Sara's Newsletter isssues.)

THere is an archived 1995 post here
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/MCCLENDN
that says this:

[The following interview with Lt. Commander Alexander Martin (retired) took place on Tom Valentine's Radio Free America program on July 10, 1995. Valentine's comments follow "Q" while Martin's follow "A".]
....

Q: Only 3 percent? That means 97 percent went somewhere else.

A: It went into people's pockets. General Secord certainly profited handsomely. General John Singlaub and a host of others did likewise. However, would it have been possible for these men to carry out such an enormous conspiracy, to traffic in such enormous quantities of illegal items, without the duplicity and complicity of the United States government?

Q: I don't see how it would have been possible.

A: It would not have been possible, and it was not possible at the time to do so. I think George Bush said it very well in an interview with Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the Washington press corps. When Bush consented to an interview with Mrs. McClendon in June of 1992, he said on record, which she printed in her newsletter that month, when she asked him about Iran-contra and he said, (and I'm quoting from her newsletter): "If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." This was a public comment by George Bush.

Q: George Bush actually admitted that?

A: He said it and it was printed in Mrs. McClendon's newsletter in June of 1992.
--
This was the oldest reference to the alleged quote I could find. While I would hardly call it "proof" and "credible" would be a stretch, at least it is "checkable".

 

[Joe]

Thanks Lúthien, I was hoping to get a copy of the original newsletter. Marijuana library as a source is somewhat less than unimpeachable :D

 

[brainwave]

Will try to get it electronically now if not I'm at the library tomorrow so I can check there as well.

brainwave.

 

[Vulcan59]

I showed this topic to my daughter yesterday and asked if she could help. Well apparently she went ahead and wrote to them and this morning she forwarded to me, an email she received from them.

Dear Ms. xxxx

Your email requesting information regarding an interview with George H.W. Bush conducted by Sarah McClendon has been forwarded to me. Unfortunately, the folders containing references to Bush in the McClendon Papers (C2579) contain articles written for the “Washington Report”. There is no mention in the folders or the collection inventory regarding the interview done with Bush.

If you have any future requests, the staff at WHMC-C will search the subject index and collection inventories free of charge, however, there is a $20.00 non-refundable research fee required prior to us further researching our collections or making photocopies.


Thank you for your interest in our collections. If you have any additional questions, please let me know.


Sincerely,

Mary Beth Brown

Manuscript Specialist

Western Historical Manuscript Collection

23 Ellis Library

University of Missouri-Columbia

Columbia, MO 65201


BroMary@umsystem.edu

573-882-0188


Please consider making a financial donation to help support WHMC’s mission to collect, preserve, and make available records that illuminate the history and people of Missouri. Contact the WHMC staff at 573-882-6028 or whmc@umsystem.edu for more information.

 

[shijing]

Please pass on thanks to your daughter for giving it a shot, Vulcan59 -- that was nice of her to help out :)

 

[Joe]

Thanks for trying Vulcan

 

[Ennio]

Will try to get it electronically now if not I'm at the library tomorrow so I can check there as well.

brainwave.

Couldn't access online from that form it takes two weeks. I put in a request for Inter-library loan where they find the article and email me a scanned copy. So far it is pending in their electronic file. This is usually how it goes until it says available and there is no fee involved. Sometimes it takes three days sometimes weeks depending on where they have to get it from. In this case I included on the form where it is supposed to be located but that I can't access.

 

[Ennio]

oops. that was me brainwave writing from ennio's computer.

brainwave

 

[Vulcan59]

While searching for Sarah's papers, I came across some accounts that the interview she conducted with Bush Senior was done in December 1992 and not June 1992. Don't know how accurate this information is.

 

[brainwave]

Thanks for the update Vulcan,
I updated the information in my interlibrary request . Should make it easier to find.

Brainwave