Watching the creation of dream

[sgspencer]

I had a very strange dream experience last night...usually I dream with the content being the main focus, but last night was different...

I felt like I was watching the dream process as it was created...I detected a distinct part of me that was doing the dreaming and this part created the content with people and places and actions that were not any that I know in waking life...basically a movie in progress...

Then I detected another distinct part that was attaching meaning to the dream that was going on. This part would attach the feeling of a person in waking life to the person in the dream, but the person in the dream did not look in any way like the person that I felt it was.

So when I was experiencing the dream I knew the feeling was of watching my neighbor do activities in a garage, but the other part of me was like...wait thats not my neighbor and thats not her garage...what gives? Who's assigning the meaning to this dream?

It was different...anyone else have an experience like that?

 

[truth seeker]

Do you mean that you were dreaming that you were dreaming?

 

[sgspencer]

It didn't seem like I was dreaming that I was dreaming it was more like I was watching a movie and reading the script, where the script says that this actor is the neighbor in the movie...but as the observer I was trying to figure out who was writing the script because I knew that the actor in the movie was not my neighbor in real life.

Maybe this is actually what dreaming about dreaming is like, not sure.

I was questioning why the woman in my dream was given the feeling of being my neighbor when in waking life she was not.

Sorry thats about the best I can explain it, I just never questioned the content of a dream while I was dreaming. before.

So as soon as I asked the question who made the woman in my dream feel like my neighbor or gave it that symbol, I woke up.

 

[Turgon]

It didn't seem like I was dreaming that I was dreaming it was more like I was watching a movie and reading the script, where the script says that this actor is the neighbor in the movie...but as the observer I was trying to figure out who was writing the script because I knew that the actor in the movie was not my neighbor in real life.

This sounds as if you were observing your dream from a 3rd person perspective rather than being an active participant in the dream. Is this a correct assessment?

 

[shijing]

In a way, this sounds like a variation on lucid dreaming, where you are supposed to be aware that it is a dream and be in control of your actions. The first half sounds like it was true for you, but not the second. Interesting experience!

 

[sgspencer]

@DanielS - Yeah it was very much a 3rd party perspective.

Definitely and interesting experience.
I have been trying to keep a dream journal on and off for years now.
Dreams are pretty fascinating, would love to get to the lucid dreaming experience.

 

[Lilou]

Dreams are pretty fascinating, would love to get to the lucid dreaming experience.

It seems lucid dreaming is ok for entertainment, but no great revelations are likely to occur from its practice.

From Session 3 September 2008

Q: (L) I'd like to know exactly what is lucid dreaming?

A: Partly conscious awareness while other systems are still switched off and subconscious bleeds through. Can be hypnogogic or hypnopompic or "other" states.

Q: (L) Well, is it a useful state for finding out what's going on in your subconscious, or changing your reality or anything like that?

A: It can be useful for entertainment mainly.

Q: (L) So there are no outstanding benefits to be obtained from practicing so-called lucid dreaming?

A: Not really.

 

[Ellipse]

This is very interesting because I think this how the process work.
Our brain certainly translate higher concepts to what we know in the real life. The problem is to do the reverse path with our limited conscious mind.

fwiw

 

[RedFox]

I once became aware that I had literally just fallen asleep.....now that was weird because I wasn't dreaming yet.
What I became aware of was a sort of filing/organising process going on.....I could feel thoughts/ideas/memories being rearranged and organised.....it had a visual appearance to it in that it was blue and each thoughts/ideas/memory seemed to have a shape and would form connections to other shapes......I presumed at the time that this was what my brain does when I sleep.

I use to be very identified with my dreams, had a few lucid dreams and was going to try and pursue lucid dreaming.....but after reading another thread on What to do when you realise you're lucid dreaming, it became obvious that it was an escape/experience chasing rather than anything of use regarding work on the self.
Keeping a dream journal can be very useful if you try and apply it to your self and your life when you are awake, but seeking to control dreams for your own end (for the 'experience') is not productive (it may even be along the same lines as escaping into computer games, and has been known to become addictive).....your better off renting a film :P

That's not to say dreams aren't enjoyable, fascinating and a (sometimes useful) possible glimpse into your subconscious.
If you have not read those parts of the wave that cover discussions of dreams, it should also be mentioned that 4D STS can (and do) sometimes influence your dreams in order to give false ideas/impressions.....lucid dreaming may also be the same.

 

[sgspencer]

I once became aware that I had literally just fallen asleep.....now that was weird because I wasn't dreaming yet.
What I became aware of was a sort of filing/organising process going on.....I could feel thoughts/ideas/memories being rearranged and organised.....it had a visual appearance to it in that it was blue and each thoughts/ideas/memory seemed to have a shape and would form connections to other shapes......I presumed at the time that this was what my brain does when I sleep.

This is very interesting. I had at one time tried to be aware of the falling asleep process and fall asleep consciously, don't remember where I ever got the idea that I could do this...but never did end up doing it...just caused alot of insomnia.

I use to be very identified with my dreams, had a few lucid dreams and was going to try and pursue lucid dreaming.....but after reading another thread on What to do when you realise you're lucid dreaming, it became obvious that it was an escape/experience chasing rather than anything of use regarding work on the self.
Keeping a dream journal can be very useful if you try and apply it to your self and your life when you are awake, but seeking to control dreams for your own end (for the 'experience') is not productive (it may even be along the same lines as escaping into computer games, and has been known to become addictive).....your better off renting a film :P

I had tried lucid dreaming for awhile...at the time I thought it would be useful in talking with the higher self...but I was never able to wake up in the dream world...always woke myself up and just let it go after a while. After reading from many sources that it doesn't produce much useful work guess I am ok with not getting anywhere with it.