Andrey
Jedi
It was awhile back when I made the decision to retire these words from my vocabulary. Looking back, the decision was rooted in reaction to watching everyone (myself included) turn "spirituality" into something that isn't anywhere close to what I would term 'spiritual' now in my present understanding. Again I even hesitate to link the term "spiritual(ity)" to what we are actually doing here. It is true we can (often) define for ourselves what a word may mean to us. Sort of like our own personal definition of the word 'God.'
As a thought experiment, I was wondering if we attributed some degree of objectivity (as close as we can get) to a word, how close could we get to actually understanding what the word(s) mean?
In this case, being "spiritual" or practicing "spirituality." I am almost embarrassed to admit now that I used to conduct much of my "personal" spirituality as a "pursuit of happiness." This pursuit was thrillseeking, short term, materialistic and ego driven, but there was also a "spiritual" component (or so I thought) that had all the elements of New Age Escapism and STS mentality. Many of these tendencies are actually still very prevelant in my programming but I've definitely come a long way (and have much more to learn). I've noticed that "authentic spirituality" is natually inherent in many, but our "happy brain" hijacks these subtle impulses and morphs them into something we mistake for spirituality. There are overt examples of this like naive, well-intentioned people who are into the "dark arts." The mystical glamour and deco lure people in who find some resonance with the idea of a "cosmic rebel" and "total freedom" from what they perceive as God (organized religion) but over time they are fed a slow drip STS philosophy and are convinced that "Godhood," Self-Deification, worshipping the ego, "transcending human morals," etc., are spiritual practices. Well are they? Is a person choosing to polarize into STS technically also doing something "spiritual?" The way people use the word spirituality, you would almost think this is the case. I think many of the people who get into these kinds of things have no idea what they're actually getting into. It seems innocent enough at first, but like anything else things take a turn for the worst as the endgame comes to a close. I would assume that the PTB subjectively view their actions as something "spiritual."
A much more covert example is obviously the New Age community and people who are into fringe phenomenon like lucid dreaming, astral projection, telepathy, etc. Is learning to Astral travel or being telepathic a "spiritual" practice? IMO, it is not (should be obvious actually). As I have personally experienced, some of these higher senses and abilities that we think will save humanity would actually traumatize humanity in it's current state. Human nature is not equipped to deal with the possibility of having our inner most thoughts "read" by a psychic. That to me is one of the most invasive things you can do! If I could read your mind right now and your brain saw undeniable proof of this, you would start developing psychic mutations. This has happened to paranoid schizophrenics who think their mind is being read all the time so they develop some kind of self sabotaging mental/psychic tourette syndrome where their brain is constantly and on purpose thinking and conjuring up extremely disturbing thoughts all the time without the owner's approval. Can you imagine mind readers being pushed as something "fun" and "cool" or "spiritual" to the masses and they have no idea the consequences such actions could bring?
It makes me sick that these kinds of phenomenon are pitched by all these ignorant new age slobs and they think they are being spiritual and "saving the world." At least these people who are into black magic recognize their inherent STS qualities and consciously make the decision to polarize further. They aren't "confused" about who they are. It is obviously not a commendable choice by any means, but there is still a level of awareness there that the new age community lacks profusely. I was personally into black magic and liked reading about it. I never engaged in rituals or cast any spells or anything like that, but was fascinated by the idea of the often villainized devil character giving mankind the gift of intelligence. After being duped by organized religion, it was a no brainer to me. However, never once did I have any intentions of enslaving anyone. In my view the dark arts was ultimately about freedom for yourself and others and respecting freedom for others in general. Anyone who enslaved or manipulated others in the name of these "daimons" did not understand the philosophy. For example, many demonolaters who work with the demons of the goetia do now follow the protocols of "trapping the spirit." Rather they try to commune with the spirit without any protective circles because they respect freedom of being and believe these demons are proponents of the same. Then they proceed to become the "best version of themselves" with the help of these demons. My point here is that these innocent dark art practitioners who believe in admirable virtues but naive and misled are still very different from the psychopathic PTB. Two different species. I am not trying to defend these people either, but from my observation, I have noticed they are a lot more aware of themselves and others than these new age bozos. I think most of these satanists and demonology fans will just turn away and either pursue authentic spirituality or go back to a normal life after they realize what their "masters" are actually all about.
Spirituality has become a drug and it's being run by psychopaths as well. There was a SOTT.NET podcast I was listening to where you guys were talking about weeding out psychopaths in well off positions of power by making them take a psychopathy test without them knowing what its about. We shoud do that with the "spiritual" community. It is a perfect environment for a psychopath to come in and do what he/she does best.
So I don't like to use the words spiritual or spirituality anymore. I cringe whenever I find myself attributing what I'm currently doing (gathering knowledge, soul questing, whatever you want to call it) as spirituality. It restricts my overall picture of whats going on. Anyways, thanks for reading my rant. I had to talk about the black magic stuff because I was into it myself, and I know the intricacies of their philosophies and outlooks and how they justify their thought processes to themselves and dupe others who may not have the adequate knowledge base to know any better. Thankfully, I managed to escape the programming.
Now I am wondering what it means to "be spiritual." I understand now that it is not about pursuing JUST happiness (pursuing ONLY happiness is incomplete; so is DENYING happiness IMO), it is NOT about escaping to some astral paradise, it is NOT about actively pursuing otherworldly wonders (though witnessing this can be a byproduct of authentic progress, maybe). Authentic "spirituality" is anything but pleasant, especially in the beginning. Somewhere down the road, it naturally becomes fun to learn. However, "fun" can easily be misinterpreted. I'm reading "What makes your brain happy and why you should do the opposite." If you haven't read the book yet, its mostly about how we're wired to do and think in ways that keep us docile. That is an oversimplification of course, but you see, the information in that book has elements of authentic apirituality in it. The fact that I am able to disagree with some of the author's views is also an authentic spiritual element: discernment. Something I wasn't able to do before. And discernment training is a seemingly neverending process with no certainty (and certainty is something our brains crave). So something like training to keep your brain in check and identifying your own cognitive biases for example can be extremely unpleasant for someone just starting out so to speak. Reading about, studying, analyzing and doing the work as we all know, learning the way we are learning, and most importantly uncovering and detecting misinformation the way we are, not to mention scrutinizing even our most helpful sources (like the C's) and learning to find things out for ourselves; is a different beast from what everyone else is doing with their "spirituality." Or maybe I'm wrong and the extremely nice but uninformed christian with a heart of gold is also being "spiritual?" Different learning cycles and all that.
In closing I would like to ask what spirituality means to you? Did it have a different meaning for you in the past? How much of it is exclusively an STO thing? Are we even capable of doing something spiritual if we are STS? Isn't almost everything we do actually inherently selfish? So it's not about the action but also the attitude behind it? Is attempting to reach STO an ultimate goal to you? Is everything you're doing here an attempt to be an STO candidate or just to be STO in general because you read about the "benefits?" Some might be able to tell I'm projecting here because I still hold STO candidacy as a motivating factor. Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems counterintuitive and seems like as STS attitude. While it is certainly understandable to want that STO life from what we know about it, it's quite clear that it isn't heaven or paradise (maybe it is in some ways i don't know). We wouldn't be able to function in that realm as we currently are. And the C's have given many clues about our internal attitude playing a role in soul development. But I don't think it's possible to "force" these attitudes which is why I think it's a good idea to not even think about reaching or becoming STO as a goal. Those attitudes and characteristics should be a byproduct of practicing authentic spirituality, not a checklist to complete in order to "cross the gates" to reap the "rewards." Anyways, I will stop here. Sorry this post is kind of all over the place, but I felt the need to just share a little bit.
As a thought experiment, I was wondering if we attributed some degree of objectivity (as close as we can get) to a word, how close could we get to actually understanding what the word(s) mean?
In this case, being "spiritual" or practicing "spirituality." I am almost embarrassed to admit now that I used to conduct much of my "personal" spirituality as a "pursuit of happiness." This pursuit was thrillseeking, short term, materialistic and ego driven, but there was also a "spiritual" component (or so I thought) that had all the elements of New Age Escapism and STS mentality. Many of these tendencies are actually still very prevelant in my programming but I've definitely come a long way (and have much more to learn). I've noticed that "authentic spirituality" is natually inherent in many, but our "happy brain" hijacks these subtle impulses and morphs them into something we mistake for spirituality. There are overt examples of this like naive, well-intentioned people who are into the "dark arts." The mystical glamour and deco lure people in who find some resonance with the idea of a "cosmic rebel" and "total freedom" from what they perceive as God (organized religion) but over time they are fed a slow drip STS philosophy and are convinced that "Godhood," Self-Deification, worshipping the ego, "transcending human morals," etc., are spiritual practices. Well are they? Is a person choosing to polarize into STS technically also doing something "spiritual?" The way people use the word spirituality, you would almost think this is the case. I think many of the people who get into these kinds of things have no idea what they're actually getting into. It seems innocent enough at first, but like anything else things take a turn for the worst as the endgame comes to a close. I would assume that the PTB subjectively view their actions as something "spiritual."
A much more covert example is obviously the New Age community and people who are into fringe phenomenon like lucid dreaming, astral projection, telepathy, etc. Is learning to Astral travel or being telepathic a "spiritual" practice? IMO, it is not (should be obvious actually). As I have personally experienced, some of these higher senses and abilities that we think will save humanity would actually traumatize humanity in it's current state. Human nature is not equipped to deal with the possibility of having our inner most thoughts "read" by a psychic. That to me is one of the most invasive things you can do! If I could read your mind right now and your brain saw undeniable proof of this, you would start developing psychic mutations. This has happened to paranoid schizophrenics who think their mind is being read all the time so they develop some kind of self sabotaging mental/psychic tourette syndrome where their brain is constantly and on purpose thinking and conjuring up extremely disturbing thoughts all the time without the owner's approval. Can you imagine mind readers being pushed as something "fun" and "cool" or "spiritual" to the masses and they have no idea the consequences such actions could bring?
It makes me sick that these kinds of phenomenon are pitched by all these ignorant new age slobs and they think they are being spiritual and "saving the world." At least these people who are into black magic recognize their inherent STS qualities and consciously make the decision to polarize further. They aren't "confused" about who they are. It is obviously not a commendable choice by any means, but there is still a level of awareness there that the new age community lacks profusely. I was personally into black magic and liked reading about it. I never engaged in rituals or cast any spells or anything like that, but was fascinated by the idea of the often villainized devil character giving mankind the gift of intelligence. After being duped by organized religion, it was a no brainer to me. However, never once did I have any intentions of enslaving anyone. In my view the dark arts was ultimately about freedom for yourself and others and respecting freedom for others in general. Anyone who enslaved or manipulated others in the name of these "daimons" did not understand the philosophy. For example, many demonolaters who work with the demons of the goetia do now follow the protocols of "trapping the spirit." Rather they try to commune with the spirit without any protective circles because they respect freedom of being and believe these demons are proponents of the same. Then they proceed to become the "best version of themselves" with the help of these demons. My point here is that these innocent dark art practitioners who believe in admirable virtues but naive and misled are still very different from the psychopathic PTB. Two different species. I am not trying to defend these people either, but from my observation, I have noticed they are a lot more aware of themselves and others than these new age bozos. I think most of these satanists and demonology fans will just turn away and either pursue authentic spirituality or go back to a normal life after they realize what their "masters" are actually all about.
Spirituality has become a drug and it's being run by psychopaths as well. There was a SOTT.NET podcast I was listening to where you guys were talking about weeding out psychopaths in well off positions of power by making them take a psychopathy test without them knowing what its about. We shoud do that with the "spiritual" community. It is a perfect environment for a psychopath to come in and do what he/she does best.
So I don't like to use the words spiritual or spirituality anymore. I cringe whenever I find myself attributing what I'm currently doing (gathering knowledge, soul questing, whatever you want to call it) as spirituality. It restricts my overall picture of whats going on. Anyways, thanks for reading my rant. I had to talk about the black magic stuff because I was into it myself, and I know the intricacies of their philosophies and outlooks and how they justify their thought processes to themselves and dupe others who may not have the adequate knowledge base to know any better. Thankfully, I managed to escape the programming.
Now I am wondering what it means to "be spiritual." I understand now that it is not about pursuing JUST happiness (pursuing ONLY happiness is incomplete; so is DENYING happiness IMO), it is NOT about escaping to some astral paradise, it is NOT about actively pursuing otherworldly wonders (though witnessing this can be a byproduct of authentic progress, maybe). Authentic "spirituality" is anything but pleasant, especially in the beginning. Somewhere down the road, it naturally becomes fun to learn. However, "fun" can easily be misinterpreted. I'm reading "What makes your brain happy and why you should do the opposite." If you haven't read the book yet, its mostly about how we're wired to do and think in ways that keep us docile. That is an oversimplification of course, but you see, the information in that book has elements of authentic apirituality in it. The fact that I am able to disagree with some of the author's views is also an authentic spiritual element: discernment. Something I wasn't able to do before. And discernment training is a seemingly neverending process with no certainty (and certainty is something our brains crave). So something like training to keep your brain in check and identifying your own cognitive biases for example can be extremely unpleasant for someone just starting out so to speak. Reading about, studying, analyzing and doing the work as we all know, learning the way we are learning, and most importantly uncovering and detecting misinformation the way we are, not to mention scrutinizing even our most helpful sources (like the C's) and learning to find things out for ourselves; is a different beast from what everyone else is doing with their "spirituality." Or maybe I'm wrong and the extremely nice but uninformed christian with a heart of gold is also being "spiritual?" Different learning cycles and all that.
In closing I would like to ask what spirituality means to you? Did it have a different meaning for you in the past? How much of it is exclusively an STO thing? Are we even capable of doing something spiritual if we are STS? Isn't almost everything we do actually inherently selfish? So it's not about the action but also the attitude behind it? Is attempting to reach STO an ultimate goal to you? Is everything you're doing here an attempt to be an STO candidate or just to be STO in general because you read about the "benefits?" Some might be able to tell I'm projecting here because I still hold STO candidacy as a motivating factor. Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems counterintuitive and seems like as STS attitude. While it is certainly understandable to want that STO life from what we know about it, it's quite clear that it isn't heaven or paradise (maybe it is in some ways i don't know). We wouldn't be able to function in that realm as we currently are. And the C's have given many clues about our internal attitude playing a role in soul development. But I don't think it's possible to "force" these attitudes which is why I think it's a good idea to not even think about reaching or becoming STO as a goal. Those attitudes and characteristics should be a byproduct of practicing authentic spirituality, not a checklist to complete in order to "cross the gates" to reap the "rewards." Anyways, I will stop here. Sorry this post is kind of all over the place, but I felt the need to just share a little bit.
