what if you don't dream at all?

[abstract]

hey all, i must say there are some pretty interesting dream stories here. mine is quite the opposite. i barely dream at all. i know dreams can often be some sort of indicator for something, so does it indicate anything if you have no memorable dreams whatsoever? i go to sleep and all is just a blank, i wake up and all is just a blank. i drag myself to the computer and literally pick up where i left off the previous night, i smoke a few cigarettes and begin some sort of routine activities, go through my day, i hardly ever look at the clock anymore. the point is, what do you all suppose would be the implication behind a complete lack of dreams? i realize that we MUST dream while sleeping, it is a natural function. but like i said i remember nothing when i wake up.

 

[Masamune]

Do you take any type of substances such as medications that may prevent you from having dreams?

 

[Zadius Sky]

Do you take any type of substances such as medications that may prevent you from having dreams?

Alcohol also suppress REM sleep (depends on how much one drink), which prevent one to dream.

If none of the above is the case, it might be that you lack a remembrance of dreams. There are many people who just don't remember their dream (sometime can sense that they dreamt but had no memory of).

Have you tried melatonin?

 

[Cyre2067]

Recreational drugs can also inhibit dreaming.

If its not something in your diet, you may want to try melatonin as suggested above. If not, you may just not recall your dreams very often. I'm not an avid dreamer myself, however occasionally I do have a very vivid, memorable dream or two. I seem to remember them more often when I wake up, fall back to sleep, and wake up again in the morning before actually getting out of bed.

 

[abstract]

where does one acquire melatonin? and also i almost never drink and "R.D.'s" are kept to an absolute minimum, i take virtually NO medications (i can't trust big pharma) so it's possible that it's just my "norm" not to remember my dreams. the only dream i vividly remember is the "dream of the predator" that i had when i was barely in gradeschool. i wonder if my not remembering dreams may have something to do with the fact that i almost never think about the past or the future in a conscious way.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi abstract,
Do a Search of melatonin here at the forum and you'll find quite a few links. Here is one where melatonin is discussed including where to buy some. :)

 

[Buddy]

...i barely dream at all. ...does it indicate anything if you have no memorable dreams whatsoever? i go to sleep and all is just a blank, i wake up and all is just a blank. i drag myself to the computer and literally pick up where i left off the previous night, i smoke a few cigarettes and begin some sort of routine activities, go through my day, i hardly ever look at the clock anymore. the point is, what do you all suppose would be the implication behind a complete lack of dreams? i realize that we MUST dream while sleeping, it is a natural function. but like i said i remember nothing when i wake up.

Hi abstract. Maybe it could be that you simply don't remember any dreams. I've been known to go long periods and waking up without any memory of having dreamed.

If you're not getting down into and below Rapid Eye Movement sleep, then you're probably not dreaming and not able get into that healing/restorative sleep stage that Sleep-Researchers and brainwave researchers talk about. (my wife had to have a sleep-study done once - turns out she has sleep-apnea, as do I).

In a few of your posts, you mention things like having been a 'metalhead' since you were 16, experimenting with binaural beats, keeping yourself awake with "beta and gamma frequencies", so I'm wondering if you would benefit from giving your brain a rest from so much energetic input. Sorry, I'm not trying to be judgemental or anything, I'm just asking.

Have you tried the Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing Program yet? It might help.

 

[Jacques]

where does one acquire melatonin? and also i almost never drink and "R.D.'s" are kept to an absolute minimum, i take virtually NO medications (i can't trust big pharma) so it's possible that it's just my "norm" not to remember my dreams. the only dream i vividly remember is the "dream of the predator" that i had when i was barely in gradeschool. i wonder if my not remembering dreams may have something to do with the fact that i almost never think about the past or the future in a conscious way.

Are you doing the breathing program?

I have noticed that since i began the breathing program, i have more dreams.

 

[abstract]

first, to answer buddy, i don't think metal has anything to do with it (my subjective view) as i can easily fall asleep with metallica blasting in my ears (the headphones usually fall off when i fall asleep) and as for the binaural beats, i should clarify that i am in no way so senseless as to attempt something as unhealthy as intentional sleep deprivation, nor did i use the binaural beats with any such logic as "oh so i can listen to gamma waves and never need sleep again" because obviously the body needs to sleep a certain amount each day to maintain it's proper functioning. the beta and gamma waves simply gave me a temporary decrease in need to sleep, and on some occasions i fell asleep while listening to them. they aren't a substitute for natural functioning. (many of you will think i'm insane at first, but i promise when you get to know me, you'll still think im insane, you'll just be more comfortable with it. ROFL.) no, but seriously folks, i just recently tried the breathing program. i got to a point where i got that tingling feeling behind the nose really intense, but i didn't really achieve the emotional cleansing effect to any degree...to be truthful, by the time i got to feeling that tingling it wasn't that the sensation was intense, but it was mentally intense as well...that's when i had to stop because i got kind of freaked out and said "woah, hold on, this is too much". it wasn't that i was doing it in the wrong way or anything, i listened to the audio intro and watched the video and everything and i followed everything as closely as i could for the first time doing it. and i must say that you are in no way judging, since i did ask an open question, i believe it was said that it is STO to give when asked. isn't that what this forum is about? giving knowledge and possibly advice for those who ask for it? anyway, yeah i'll do more of the breathing program and see what happens.

 

[anart]

and as for the binaural beats, i should clarify that i am in no way so senseless as to attempt something as unhealthy as intentional sleep deprivation, nor did i use the binaural beats with any such logic as "oh so i can listen to gamma waves and never need sleep again" because obviously the body needs to sleep a certain amount each day to maintain it's proper functioning. the beta and gamma waves simply gave me a temporary decrease in need to sleep, and on some occasions i fell asleep while listening to them. they aren't a substitute for natural functioning.

I think the point is that when using the 'binaural beats' you're basically messing with a very - very - sensitive computer with no knowledge whatsoever of what overall affect you're really having. This - in and of itself - can have effects and consequences that you cannot imagine. Messing around with brain waves because one can is a very unwise idea in general. It's a jungle out there - literally. (have you watched the Knowledge and Being video yet - Laura goes into that a bit)

(many of you will think i'm insane at first, but i promise when you get to know me, you'll still think im insane, you'll just be more comfortable with it. ROFL.)

No one thinks you're insane - it's quite common to mess around with things until one learns what is actually happening and what can happen - and what to avoid. Unfortunately, damage can happen in the meantime.

no, but seriously folks, i just recently tried the breathing program. i got to a point where i got that tingling feeling behind the nose really intense, but i didn't really achieve the emotional cleansing effect to any degree...to be truthful, by the time i got to feeling that tingling it wasn't that the sensation was intense, but it was mentally intense as well...that's when i had to stop because i got kind of freaked out and said "woah, hold on, this is too much". it wasn't that i was doing it in the wrong way or anything, i listened to the audio intro and watched the video and everything and i followed everything as closely as i could for the first time doing it. and i must say that you are in no way judging, since i did ask an open question, i believe it was said that it is STO to give when asked. isn't that what this forum is about? giving knowledge and possibly advice for those who ask for it? anyway, yeah i'll do more of the breathing program and see what happens.

Just a note that the 'emotional cleansing' doesn't happen with one session. It also, usually, does not happen during the session, but hours, days or even weeks on. It is a very powerful program and that is why it should be followed as directed and why the forum is here for support as it unfolds. I think it will probably be great for you! :)

 

[Renaissance]

first, to answer buddy, i don't think metal has anything to do with it (my subjective view) as i can easily fall asleep with metallica blasting in my ears (the headphones usually fall off when i fall asleep)

Shouldn't that raise a red flag for you? Maybe your pineal gland (which produces melatonin and becomes hardened by EMF waves) is tired of taking a beating. I'd suggest laying off the metal, particularly with the use of headphones, when you go to bed.

If the whole breathing program is too much, try just doing the pipe breathing (in limited amounts if needed) along with the Prayer of the Soul for a couple of weeks before doing the whole system.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

first, to answer buddy, i don't think metal has anything to do with it (my subjective view) as i can easily fall asleep with metallica blasting in my ears (the headphones usually fall off when i fall asleep)

Do you really think it's healthy to have any type of music "blasting" in your ears? It amazes me at the number of people I see who have earphones in their ears and despite being some metres away from me, I can clearly hear whatever it is they're listening to. Common sense says that continually subjecting one's ears to loud noises is unhealthy. Studies have even found that loud noises can induce depression and other ill-effects. I suggest you gradually decrease the volume on your MP3 player, like someone might gradually decrease the amount of sugar they put in their tea. :)

 

[Beorn]

Hi Abstract,
do you TRY and remember your dreams? IMO if you want to remember them then sometimes it requires effort.

You could try this:
- Before you go to sleep remember the events of the day. This helps to develop continuity I think.

- State your intention as you go to sleep. If I haven't been remembering my dreams for a while I will say to myself "I will remember my dreams and write them down when I wake up in the morning."

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- When you wake up remember the events of the night, and if you do remember, write them down. Give yourself a few extra minutes in the morning just to laze in bed. Sometimes if you know you had a dream but can't quite remember, a few quiet moments to search your memory will bring it back.

 

[abstract]

thanks, jp, i'm already finding out how many intelligent people are in this forum, everyone seems to have good advice.

 

[RedFox]

Hi abstract

i got to a point where i got that tingling feeling behind the nose really intense, but i didn't really achieve the emotional cleansing effect to any degree...to be truthful, by the time i got to feeling that tingling it wasn't that the sensation was intense, but it was mentally intense as well...that's when i had to stop because i got kind of freaked out and said "woah, hold on, this is too much".

If it was the Ba-Ha portion (and it can be intense), try doing it laying down as this seems to reduce the intensity of it, at least until you are comfortable enough with it to try it upright again :)